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News isn't very good unless it's live. Same with awards shows where you might hear the results before you watch if you don't watch live. Same with sports. Not everything is scripted TV!



That business model has been in effect for literally decades with cable TV. So obviously it works. Not everyone wants to deal with the hassle of an antenna and some people can't get OTA networks with an antenna. Then there are cable TV channels which are ONLY paid unless you are pirating them somehow.



Not true. Animal planet (and thus I assume other Discovery shows) are available on DirecTVNow. Which is why I am using that one. It's missing CBS, but that I can live with as I don't really watch that channel much.
Dang, Lifehacker was wrong on Discovery! Oops.
 
Apple needs to lunch their own live tv service I'll definitely dish then cords for it
 
Apple needs to lunch their own live tv service I'll definitely dish then cords for it
What specifically would be special about Apple doing it?

I don't get the holding out for Apple mindset like we saw with music, when the eventual offering is the same thing.
 
What specifically would be special about Apple doing it?

I don't get the holding out for Apple mindset like we saw with music, when the eventual offering is the same thing.
For me, if the content is about the same, and the pricing is about the same, being able to access it natively through the OS and built-in apps is why I'd go with Apple vs someone else and their app.
 
No you can't.

Why do you feel the need to lie?

I'm not lying. It does look like a major FAIL.

People are cutting the cord not because it's too expensive. It's because the shows and channels that they are paying for are not worth what they are being charged. This does not change that. People are tired of paying for channels they don't watch.
 
I currently subscribe to Hulu through my Apple TV and for the life of me, I cannot figure out how to begin a free trial of the Hulu with TV to see if it's worth my time. I hope someone figures this out. It wouldn't even let me do it on my computer, it just takes me back to the iTunes plan (which I canceled just now, but still have access until May 6).
 
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I'm not lying. It does look like a major FAIL.

People are cutting the cord not because it's too expensive. It's because the shows and channels that they are paying for are not worth what they are being charged. This does not change that. People are tired of paying for channels they don't watch.

You stated you could get 80% of the channels OTA. That is a lie.
 
LOLz. Let's move the bundle online! Let's keep the bundle, call it a bundle, and just say it's a streaming bundle. I don't care how much tech they got behind all this crap. Until the day I can freely choose as many, or as few live channels I want, I will not be interested. I simply want access to content and a handful of live channels. That's all. When a company can do that for me at a reasonable price, I'm all in. Until that day, if I want a bundle, I'd stick to the tried and true cable bundle, non-streaming edition.
 
I was waiting to see what Hulu offered, but I think I'm sticking with directtv now.

I have the go big package + HBO, for $35. While I would like CBS & dvr support, I'm still happy with it.
 
I currently subscribe to Hulu through my Apple TV and for the life of me, I cannot figure out how to begin a free trial of the Hulu with TV to see if it's worth my time. I hope someone figures this out. It wouldn't even let me do it on my computer, it just takes me back to the iTunes plan (which I canceled just now, but still have access until May 6).
It's a separate app I think. But it isn't showing as available yet. Not sure what the hold up is.
 
Tried it, but already canceled it. Picture quality on the Apple TV is nowhere near PlayStation Vue on the same device. Also prefer the channel guide that Vue offers compared to what Hulu gives you.
 
Video review... seems they got rid of the grid view and did a very good job of blending live and on demand.


One thing I like is if a show you picked to DVR is offered on regular Hulu. They will give you the option to watch that version.
 
Put yourself in their shoes. Your network produces far more original content than any cable channel. You pilot far more new shows than any cable channel. You have a stream of income from selling commercials but the vast majority of cable channels have those too.

Your customers:
  • covet commercial-skipping technologies and use them such that being able to motivate those who pay for commercials becomes increasingly challenging. Thus your primary, long-term source of revenue is under attack.
  • generally don't want to put up/maintain antennas (though some- like me- are happy to do so) or can't get a stable HD signal via antenna.
The cable channels have commercial revenue PLUS cable subscription revenue. Do you happily keep "giving away" your channel to cable too or do you seek out this other revenue opportunity just like the cable channels?

I completely understand what you are saying and I make the same arguments as you- people should put up an antenna and get a better quality picture for free over-the-air. However, I can also sympathize with the big 4-5 networks who generally offer the most-watched television wanting to get their cut of subscription revenues. If I'm in their shoes, I rationalize it with ideas like "we" put out the most popular programming, generate the most original programming and are the most watched channels. Don't we deserve a cut of the subscription revenue stream too from those who opt to NOT put up an antenna and instead watch our channels distributed through a cable?"

Well said sir!
 
For me, if the content is about the same, and the pricing is about the same, being able to access it natively through the OS and built-in apps is why I'd go with Apple vs someone else and their app.

I guess I can understand that, but I what I don't understand is the waiting for a service that Apple might never offer. Or not offer for many years.
 
For me, if the content is about the same, and the pricing is about the same, being able to access it natively through the OS and built-in apps is why I'd go with Apple vs someone else and their app.

That's silly reasoning since Hulu is an APP and you can access it on most devices. So there's absolutely nothing special or different that Apple would provide other than the shiny logo and further junking up iTunes/ATV more than beats already did with the Music Store and that stupid TV App did with the ATV.
 
Overpriced. Maybe at 19.99 or 24.99. I'm just not into Hulu. Now Netflix plus Live TV? I would go for that in a heartbeat.
 
umm.. sounds like a good deal... But price could be cheaper...

If i could see Saved on cloud DVR would never go away, then it may be good. Netflix is giving me the "run-around"

depends on how much content u watch i guess, but if u watch Hulu allot like I do, $40 sounds pretty good value.

I bet this is what Apple was trying to get first.
 
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You think the content owners aren't charging Hulu for offering what is essentially a retransmission?
Retransmission is one thing. Saving something, aka 'cloud DVR' doesn't guarantee you'll ever watch it again. And charging users by the GB is disingenuous.

And what about the overlap between things you might record via DVR that are already available On Demand from Hulu (which you're paying for)?

The whole thing is about 50% over priced.
 
I've made the comment many times, by the time you've paid for a service like this, Netflix, Amazon Prime and an internet connection fast enough to handle multiple HD stream simultaneously, it would have been cheaper to just have a internet and TV bundle.

This is even more true when the cable companies start jacking up the pricing on internet only connections to offset the loss of revenue on the TV business...
 
Retransmission is one thing. Saving something, aka 'cloud DVR' doesn't guarantee you'll ever watch it again. And charging users by the GB is disingenuous.

And what about the overlap between things you might record via DVR that are already available On Demand from Hulu (which you're paying for)?

The whole thing is about 50% over priced.

The app lets you chose between DVR and content already available on Hulu.
 
just appears to be more complicated and convoluted than the idea of what Hulu or Netflix is intended for. Essentially their just doing sling plus increasing the cost of their existing functionality...I;m truly not seeing the benefit of it from their old model.
 
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