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$60 plus your ISP costs puts this service at equal or higher than regular cable service. Does this service include the regular HULU no commercials plan??? If so that's probably why DVR is capped at 200hrs?
 
What exactly do you think the revenues and margins are the industry?
I would guess they are low. However that doesn't matter for the customers. Many if not most want to pay substantially less, want to pay only for what they watch and want a much more convenient way to watch.

The business concept of cable TV is dying because if they lose 20% of their customers they will be broke.

The execs just try to delay the inevitable with these unappealing offerings. In the end the market will decide if I'm right or wrong as always.
 
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Another disappointment...sigh.

I had hoped the Hulu package might somehow be different from DirectvNow. Sadly, it sounds the same. Possibly better local sources and better On Demand? Hard to tell from the article, but DTVN is woefully incomplete for local channels.
 
And don't forget, the major ISPs (AT&T & Comcast) will charge you more money if you go over their data caps.

$60 plus your ISP costs puts this service at equal or higher than regular cable service. Does this service include the regular HULU no commercials plan??? If so that's probably why DVR is capped at 200hrs?
 
Live TV makes no sense any more unless for Sports and possibly News.
Agree. I'm personally not interested in sports, but I'd rather like to see a sports bundle and a cable news bundle. Everything else is much better on demand, since you can view whenever you want and get it commercial-free (Hulu ad-free, Netflix etc.). No need for a DVR either.
 
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And don't forget, the major ISPs (AT&T & Comcast) will charge you more money if you go over their data caps.
Yep I was safe from that for years with Comcast. A couple months ago they enforced 1tb month cap. My appletv is running 180 gigs a week between iTunes movies, Hulu, and Netflix. (Data info right from my router reports I grab weekly.)

They have unlimited plan for a fee.
 
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All I want for Christmas is a package with a la carte channel selection priced accordingly.
I know it's not too much to ask.. <sarc
 
Live TV makes no sense any more unless for Sports and possibly News.

It's funny how awkward Comcast is about me refusing their cable box even though I'm buying the cable and internet package from them. I keep trying to explain that the basic channels I have already have apps on ATV and I can just authenticate and watch them there instead...
I'll bet the major broadcast network channels won't be live - except in major markets (like all the other competitor streaming services) - so at the stated price it's a non-starter to me since I'm not in one of those 5 markets.
 
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So, unlimited == 200. Or 30 if you are T-Mobile. Or 22 if you ask AT&T. Or some other number if you ask Verizon. Someone really needs to explain to the marketing teams at tech companies what the word "unlimited" actually means.
Unlimited ways of screwing the customer over?
 
These companies are pricing themselves as if they offer essential services, like electricity. What if people have to choose between eating food and watching TV? The way to get the entertainment companies to rethink their pricing is simply to dump them. When enough people jump ship, the prices will come down. If ALL of the entertainment companies maintain similar pricing, giving subscribers no cheaper alternative, that probably will happen.
 
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Wtf is with that pricing o.o I hope this rumor isn't accurate. It isn't even competitive. Sony, YouTube, Sling and Direct have better pricing for their equivalents.
 
Or you could do PlayStation Vue.

I was able to put in my location as in Colorado when I live in another state and watch all the Broncos games live on CBS.

PlayStation Vue also has a 28 day dvr. Granted it's not a perfect service but it's cheaper and works well when I've used it.

It's still too expensive at $40 a month, but it's doable for 1-2 months during football season on the weeks when I don't want to go to sports bars.
 
Having a DVR is the only thing that is a barrier for people like my parents to move from traditional cable to cord-cut services. But for an extra $20 I don't think they will be sold on switching any time soon. People want to be able to record the shows they want and not be at the whim of content providers arbitrarily creating expiration dates on their on-demand "DVR like" content.
 
Is that before or after the equipment rental fees that add 50% or more to your total bill each month?

All I'm saying is...

If you're getting Internet, TV and DVR from a cable company... I'd be curious to know if the TV/DVR portion is at least $60 of your cable bill.

It might be... in which case this Hulu thing would be a better deal.

That's what I was asking :)
 
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So, unlimited == 200. Or 30 if you are T-Mobile. Or 22 if you ask AT&T. Or some other number if you ask Verizon. Someone really needs to explain to the marketing teams at tech companies what the word "unlimited" actually means.
They're just alternative facts. There is nothing wrong with this. You watch too much fake news. I bet you're one of the consumers who doesn't see the clear benefits of having your internet history sold. I bet you also think that people shouldn't have their face smashed for not volunteering to get off an airplane they paid for, and think that it's wrong for commercials to activate your home automation devices to spam you with information about their product. You'll enjoy this new Hulu service on your Samsung TV that has ads in the menus that can easily be hacked by the CIA, and you'll like it!

Obv /s
 
Why does a streaming service need a DVR function?

This is supposedly "Live TV"

The antiquated method of delivering TV shows at a scheduled time.

So yeah... you'd need a DVR unless you plan to be home at 8pm on a Tuesday to watch your favorite show. :)
 
So, unlimited == 200. Or 30 if you are T-Mobile. Or 22 if you ask AT&T. Or some other number if you ask Verizon. Someone really needs to explain to the marketing teams at tech companies what the word "unlimited" actually means.
With the carriers it is "unlimited data" which is actually true, but once you pass the 22/30GB "limit" then you have slower speeds. But you can still keep using it so it is still technically unlimited. Saying "unlimited storage" with 200GB limit...makes no sense in any way imaginable.

But either way, I don't see how this can compete with Youtube TV which is essentially $25 cheaper for the same service (Given unlimited DVR is already included on YouTube.)
 
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