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Same, pretty much 85 percent of their live TV offering but just a day later with Hulu ad free. It's a no brainer. I'm disgusted with the price.

Yep. After getting rid of traditional cable over a year ago, I do not miss scheduled block programming at all. I see zero reason to pay anything for scheduled programming with ads, let alone $40/month.

On-demand is the way to go. Netflix, Hulu, HBO, are all priced fairly, have no ads, and let me watch on my own time and schedule. Even for background noise, not really paying attention TV, on-demand is way better. Just some random old sitcom with a 20-minute per episode runtime, and go.

Alternatively, free over-the-air is good for when I don't want to pick something on-demand.

The only exception is sports. For obvious reasons, that is better to watch live. For me, mlb.tv is awesome and I gladly pay for it.
 
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Haha these cable networks are clueless. They think that the point of Hulu and the like are for the streaming convenience only, not the saving money part of it. No thanks, there's little to nothing on live tv that I really watch anyways.
 
I dont get it ... instead of watching crap, waiting for a show to come on and record it maybe eh ... just stream it like u already can?

This seems sorta backwards to me
 
With the carriers it is "unlimited data" which is actually true, but once you pass the 22/30GB "limit" then you have slower speeds. But you can still keep using it so it is still technically unlimited. Saying "unlimited storage" with 200GB limit...makes no sense in any way imaginable.

But either way, I don't see how this can compete with Youtube TV which is essentially $25 cheaper for the same service (Given unlimited DVR is already included on YouTube.)

You MIGHT have slower speeds
 
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If it included Hulu's streaming service and roughly DirecTV Now's current service, plus CBS, then I'll cancel DirecTV Now. That being said, I'm not going to hold my breath.
 
I'm surprised at the sentiment of the bulk of the posts in this thread. Are we really still clinging to this idea that we should be able get major discounts but still get everything we want to watch? That's great for us but why do the other players want to take those losses?

As we are increasingly seeing, all the "new model" thinking for those that can actually deliver what the bulk of us want is revolving around maintaining and/or growing average annual revenue per subscriber rather than cutting it. In those situations where a little money can be saved, tangible sacrifices are being made. For example, how many of these deliver the audio in 5.1 channels as readily as SATT & Cable? How's the picture quality vs. SATT & Cable? How many have features like commercial-skipping on SATT & Cable DVRs? Yes, there does seem to always be at least 1+ desirable channel/programming left out. And on and on.

After years and years of building up home theaters, are we really satisfied to save $10-$30 for faux 5.1 surround sound instead of the real thing? After migrating to HD and now 4K TVs, are we really satisfied with the relative picture quality and playback hiccups of these kinds of services? Do we want gimped, pseudo DVR-like functions (and typically only a small subset of full DVR functions) instead of a real DVR so that we can save $10-$30/month?

And before someone replies with the horror extreme of paying hundreds per month to cable because they never shop around and let all of their discounts expire, note that traditional players like DISH offer their flex pack for this same fee: http://www.dishpromotions.com/dish-network-tv-packages/ locking that price for 2 years, with a real DVR, good HD picture, 5.1 sound, integrate OTA channels into the same guide and record on the same DVR, etc. And as soon as you opt for the better DVR functionality to hit $59.99, your $5/month above the 190 channel (with real DVR) America's Top 120 package and only $10/month away from the 240 channel America's Top 200 package... either of which would not burn a byte of your capped broadband data. Is your desired channel(s) missing from a favored streaming option in either of those offerings?

In short, some seem to be getting what we think we want in terms of less channels but at not much lower pricing, giving up niceties like real DVR functionality, 5.1 surround, sometimes (same) quality HD picture, and a few channels or access to programming we do want. Are we happy now?

Personally, I think best hope here is that all these streaming options at about mid-package cable pricing might pressure SATT & Cable to sharpen their pencils with traditional offerings for a little less. Then, we get the fuller quality of picture & sound, a real DVR and so on... without burning a byte of broadband data.

Else, where I think this goes if any of these offerings really take hold: your broadband provider will implement or tighten tiers to make up for what they lose in revenues from the cable TV side of their business. In short, they'll still get theirs from "heavier broadband use" billing increases and consumers will be getting less channels with lower quality picture & sound and no (or gimped) DVR functionality. All the same money still gets made but we consumers just get less channels/programming/quality/control/benefits/etc.

Flash forward a few years and we may be fondly remembering the "good old days" when we could get 500 channels and a real DVR for less than what the new model costs us... another lesson in "be careful what you wish for."
 
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I'm surprised at the sentiment of the bulk of the posts in this thread. Are we really still clinging to this idea that we should be able get major discounts but still get everything we want to watch? That's great for us but why do the other players want to take those losses?

As we are increasingly seeing, all the "new model" thinking for those that can actually deliver what the bulk of us want is revolving around maintaining and/or growing average annual revenue per subscriber rather than cutting it. In those situations where a little money can be saved, tangible sacrifices are being made. For example, how many of these deliver the audio in 5.1 channels as readily as SATT & Cable? How's the picture quality vs. SATT & Cable? How many have features like commercial-skipping on SATT & Cable DVRs? Yes, there does seem to always be at least 1+ desirable channel/programming left out. And on and on.

After years and years of building up home theaters, are we really satisfied to save $10-$30 for faux 5.1 surround sound instead of the real thing? After migrating to HD and now 4K TVs, are we really satisfied with the relative picture quality and playback hiccups of these kinds of services? Do we want gimped, pseudo DVR-like functions (and typically only a small subset of full DVR functions) instead of a real DVR so that we can save $10-$30/month?

And before someone replies with the horror extreme of paying hundreds per month to cable because they never shop around and let all of their discounts expire, note that traditional players like DISH offer their flex pack for this same fee: http://www.dishpromotions.com/dish-network-tv-packages/ locking that price for 2 years, with a real DVR, good HD picture, 5.1 sound, integrate OTA channels into the same guide and record on the same DVR, etc.

In short, some seem to be getting what we think we want in terms of less channels but at not much lower pricing, giving up niceties like real DVR functionality, 5.1 surround, sometimes (same) quality HD picture, and a few channels or access to programming we do want. Are we happy now?

Personally, I think best hope here is that all these streaming options at about mid-package cable pricing might pressure SATT & Cable to sharpen their pencils with traditional offerings for a little less. Then, we get the fuller quality of picture & sound, a real DVR and so on... without burning a byte of broadband data.

Else, where I think this goes if any of these offerings really take hold: your broadband provider will implement or tighten tiers to make up for what they lose in revenues from the cable TV side of their business. In short, they'll still get theirs from "heavier broadband use" billing increases and consumers will be getting less channels with lower quality picture & sound and no (or gimped) DVR functionality.

Flash forward a few years and we may be fondly remembering the "good old days" when we could get 500 channels and a real DVR for less than what the new model costs us... another lesson in "be careful what you wish for."
Your usual long, detailed and very accurate assessment, HobeSoundDarryl.
 
I hope this doesn't mean they'll further gimp Hulu's offerings. Right now I use Hulu for a good portion of the TV I watch. I don't want DVR or live streaming, just give me the episode I want to watch the next day and I'll watch it. I don't even mind sitting through the same ad for multiple sclerosis medicine (which I don't have, so I'm not sure why they are wasting money showing me that ad) over and over again.

But when they start saying "Oh hey, you like The Path? Well next season will be exclusive to the super expensive and backwards-looking live streaming service!" then that's when I'll walk.
 
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I have to wonder if these middleman streaming packages are profitable at all (I don't mean the content networks, but the Hulus/Slings/Sonys of the space)? It would seem to me they are "hoping" to capture enough mindshare and eventually marketshare with the cordshavers or cordnevers to eventually be a player. But I think those potential customers are mathematically too smart to play this game and so these guys will be also-rans starved for profitability and end up as roadside carcasses. Yes, HobeSoundDaryll, I get it. What the potential customers want will never be given in a compromise by the providers that either side will be happy with (who doesn't like money afterall).
So I suspect most Shavers/Nevers/Cutters will go about their way, checking out of the market entirely or temporarily "borrowing" a friends login. And I agree with you, in the end that may be OK with those who know if OTT products were successful it would result in higher broadband prices (thanks, government-granted monopolies). Or perhaps, the long siege of customers putting their foot down as older generations age out of the market will succeed in a decade, and true channel and programming unbundling will commence.
 
That's cheap 2 me. I expend more in a breakfast than thiz. Gonna call them. I like the service not only 4 me but 4 me friends and females u know what i mean?
 
20 dollars for DVR? You could just pay for what I guess is legacy Hulu for like 12 bucks with no commercials and pretend it's a DVR...

But at 60 dollars total, we better be talking a good 5 simultaneous streams to match Vue... if not some more. At least this speculation is up from the initial "2" from a few months back. But still not good enough.
 
For example, how many of these deliver the audio in 5.1 channels as readily as SATT & Cable? How's the picture quality vs. SATT & Cable? How many have features like commercial-skipping on SATT & Cable DVRs? Yes, there does seem to always be at least 1+ desirable channel/programming left out. And on and on.

Honestly I think you're probably a different type of user than any form of cord cutting or skinny bundles are ever going to target.

I'm super tech oriented, have been my whole life, but I don't care one iota about 5.1 sound or DVR and about 90% of the channels that are on cable/sat these days.

I gave up DirecTV back in 2009 and have never looked back.
I basically just forgot about the concept of watching a lot of TV (and didn't miss it).

It's a legitimate concern for these companies as there is a whole generation that isn't cord cutters..
..they are "cord nevers".

Those younger users that have never been used to ad filled overpriced "meh" look at it and wonder why on Earth anyone watches any of that, let alone pays for the privilege!

Thats where this point of yours comes in:

your broadband provider will implement or tighten tiers to make up for what they lose in revenues from the cable TV side of their business. In short, they'll still get theirs from "heavier broadband use" billing increases and consumers will be getting less channels with lower quality picture & sound and no (or gimped) DVR functionality.

Younger users are increasingly not even getting home internet and using mobile devices and those plans to consume content. A lot of that stuff is now getting zero rated thus avoiding any cap issues.

TV in its present form is in serious danger just based upon the usage patterns of the upcoming generations of customers (not going to be customers possibly)
 
I can hardly justify paying $8.99/month for Netflix. Paying for a cable subscription seems like a complete rip off for me as a millennial. I rarely even watch TV and get all my news from Twitter and YouTube.
 
We are currently beta testing the live service. While I can't go into details, I'll say this - it is really good in terms of UI, functionality, speed, and features with a bigger emphasis on shows instead of networks and channels.

With that said, this rumored pricing is a bit off-putting. We shall see.
 
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No thanks, the $13/month no commercials on-demand streaming plan is fine for me.
I have to wonder if the streaming plan is going to start seeing more restrictions because of this though, to make the live tv plan look more attractive. What if it becomes a week to wait instead of a day? I just don't trust them to not do stupid, maddening, user-hostile things.
 
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Gosh... $60 a month for just TV + DVR...

And how much does this service cost from the cable company you already have?

DOA. Way too expensive. I'd rather get Netflix, Prime, and HBO, and still have cash left in my pocket. Good luck Hulu.

Way, way too expensive. Thats how much a normal cable subscription costs.

No way. I was waiting for this, but why on earth would I pay the same or more as I pay for cable for something that has less channels and worse functionality. No thanks.

All the people saying that this is as much as Cable are forgetting the cost of equipment rentals. The two cable providers in my area charger almost $20 per HD DVR box a month. If you have a couple of boxes for a medium-sized family, the equipment charges alone would cost as much as Hulu's service.

Unless they have a restriction limiting the number of streams to one device, you could have multiple streaming boxes in a home with a flat $20 DVR charge.

I personally would never use a DVR, but I know a lot of people depend on them.

People who cut the cord are the target market.
I disagree this this. I know a lot of people that want to cut the cord, but won't do it because they don't want to miss out of a particular channel, or live TV. I think Hulu's service would be a bridge for people that are not ready to fully cut the cord, but want to get away from traditional Cable service.

I haven't missed DVR. The On-Demand content + Netflix really renders DVR completely unnecessary.
I completely agree with you, as I am the same way. But, there are plenty of people that love DVRs and won't give them up, even if they would save a lot of money.

Live TV makes no sense any more unless for Sports
I think if it was not for Sports, live TV would die out.


Who do you get your internet from?

What I was saying is... the cable company offers TV channels and DVR in addition to the internet. :)
You are right, but rarely are the DVR STBs cheap. In my area, Comcast and Verizon have been advertising cord-cutter-friendly options, where the majority of the costs would be the internet, but they would also include local channels and a premium channel for $10 more.

The problem is, the HD STB is an additional monthly fee, and HD DVR STBs are even more money. If you have a few TVs in your home, that is a monthly charge per STB.
 
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