Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Hundreds of Twitter Employees Leaving After Elon Musk's 'Extremely Hardcore' Work Demands
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
- Status
LOL Please!!!!
If you want to know exactly what transpired with Apple / Jobs this article sums it up nicely.
This is why Steve Jobs got fired from Apple — and how he came back to save the company
Ex-Uber CEO Travis Kalanick says he's "Steve Jobs-ing it" and will return. Here's how hard it was for Apple's Steve Jobs to get back to the company he started.
www.businessinsider.com
Elon isn’t even in the same freaking galaxy as Steve Jobs as far as wit, intelligence or strategic thinking. And for the love of God, teslas may be marvelous for their immensely impressive acceleration. They’re still hack jobs as far as general vehicles are concerned. They just lack the refinement found in more established brands.
Apples products (under Jobs and even other products under Jobs) never lacked the refinement you see missing in Tesla.
Elon is a hack and this “hack job” he’s performing at Twitter is just more evidence of that.
The remaining employees can follow Elon's lead. Work 80-hour work weeks. Sleep on the floor. No shower. Eat ramen and cheetos. Only one bathroom break allowed per day. The rest of the day, OK to wear diapers.
I can’t believe people worship any celeb, or company. Like Apple. But here we are.
The problem is you think there’s only two sides of coin, worshippers and haters. Bad Musk, good Musk. He’s a guy, not Avenger/Villain. Might be because he’s more right leaning? As an European, it’s crazy to watch your nation divided in two, shaping your thoughts in everyday’s life. Seems like there’s no respect.
Last edited:
Not saying I approve of any of this, but this does feel like a group of people being rather abruptly bought into reality all of a sudden.
Many people in this word, including me, work for a boss that expects similar things.
You come to work, you work hard all day and you go home and you get paid your wage for working hard.
No bonuses, No extra's, No parties, or extra's paid for you.
I do feel that we have a group of people who are not used to being expected to do real hard work for a living.
Many people in this word, including me, work for a boss that expects similar things.
You come to work, you work hard all day and you go home and you get paid your wage for working hard.
No bonuses, No extra's, No parties, or extra's paid for you.
I do feel that we have a group of people who are not used to being expected to do real hard work for a living.
How funny leftist gen. Z’s act when they are told to work.
This **** is way too funny.
This **** is way too funny.
the employer or the employee can terminate the employment relationship at any time, without notice, even without good cause that's the law where twitter is based.
Teslas are unspeakable toilets.LOL Please!!!!
If you want to know exactly what transpired with Apple / Jobs this article sums it up nicely.
This is why Steve Jobs got fired from Apple — and how he came back to save the company
Ex-Uber CEO Travis Kalanick says he's "Steve Jobs-ing it" and will return. Here's how hard it was for Apple's Steve Jobs to get back to the company he started.
Elon isn’t even in the same freaking galaxy as Steve Jobs as far as wit, intelligence or strategic thinking. And for the love of God, teslas may be marvelous for their immensely impressive acceleration. They’re still hack jobs as far as general vehicles are concerned. They just lack the refinement found in more established brands.
Apples products (under Jobs and even other products under Jobs) never lacked the refinement you see missing in Tesla.
Elon is a hack and this “hack job” he’s performing at Twitter is just more evidence of that.
On the other hand, from a similar head that you want to be given birth, just farts.
See post 312. Also, due to crazy Bay Area housing prices and bad traffic, the commute can be long and/or terrible. Some folks in order to get something semi-affordable may have to live very far away.Or dear, the employees think this an unreasonable amount of time to be in the office. Working a five day week, 8 hours per day, this is the typical working hours for office work.
(I live in the Bay Area but not in city of SF.)
Many tech companies have become more open to remote and/or hybrid work ever since the pandemic hit. It can make sense for some companies to have people come to the office certain days of the week for in-person collaboration but WFH for the rest. Mine has tried to encourage it for 3 or 4 days but it hasn't really worked. Office attendence is really low vs. pre-pandemic and many folks have moved away from the area. This is besides us hiring permanent remote people.
I don't think Dunning-Kruger is a mental illness, but he's definitely a narcissist; of course one of the traits shared by all narcissists is the believe that they're more intelligent than the average Joe. Only the most stupid believe themselves to be intelligent - it's just another version of the Emperor's New Clothes.
I'm sure most here will know the old post tortoise joke, but have you come across the Peter Principle...? Laurence Johnston Peter was a Canadian psychologist who wrote a book; in it he explained the idea that everyone is eventually promoted to a position beyond the level of their competence and/or skill set. Those who are still able to carry out their jobs efficiently are those who have not reached that point yet. This is what Musk is doing; he's firing everyone who is more competent and skilled than he is/they think he's a dick, because he's a narcissist and promoting those who worship him to positions beyond which they are able to function. Either way, Twitter is doomed to suffer the same fate as MySpace and Bebo.
(Any Brits here may also remember The Peter Principle as a short-lived BBC1 sitcom starring Jim Broadbent (I think there were only 2 series) as a hapless provincial bank manager. I can't remember who else was in it now...David Schneider, I think, Sally Marchant, Julia Davis (?))
Last edited:
He’s worried that employees will sabotage it?
How could they do more damage than he’s already doing?
Given his exponential destruction curve, in like two more days we’ll hear that he blew up all their physical plant to save it.
How could they do more damage than he’s already doing?
Given his exponential destruction curve, in like two more days we’ll hear that he blew up all their physical plant to save it.
What more would all the dictators around the world Elon and his type pal around with want than Twitter to disappear?
44 billion is nothing for these scum.
I laugh at all the people here that are outraged by this. It’s especially funny when you see it on a website dedicated to the company, that was rebuilt in a similar way by the ruthless and great Steve Jobs. You just have to get rid off B and C players. But that’s what only B and C players can’t understand.
All they were doing is censoring everyone in the word for anything going against Washington agenda. Dead weight is being removed.
Hundreds of Twitter employees today resigned from the company rather than opting in to be part of "Twitter 2.0" under Elon Musk, according to The Verge. Musk earlier this week told workers that Twitter will be "extremely hardcore" going forward, with employees expected to put in long hours at high intensity. "Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade," he said.
Musk on Wednesday sent out a Google form and asked employees to respond "Yes" by 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time on Thursday if they wanted to stay at the company. Hundreds decided not to, and have said their goodbyes in Slack and on Twitter. Departing employees will receive a severance package.
When he took over Twitter, Musk laid off approximately half of the 7,500 employees that were at the company at the time, and since then, he has continued firing employees who have been critical of him, including longtime engineers.
Twitter employees that spoke to The Verge said that given the number of people that have left, Twitter could "start breaking soon" and that it will be "extremely hard for Twitter to recover."
With the exodus of employees, Twitter temporarily closed all office buildings and suspended badge access. According to Zoë Schiffer, Musk and his team are "terrified employees are going to sabotage the company."
In the final hours ahead of the deadline, Musk reportedly attempted to convince employees to stay. Bloomberg says that key staff were brought into meetings and Musk also walked back his in-office work demands. He had said that all employees needed to work from the office 40 hours a week, but today he said that working from home was allowed with monthly in-person meetings and managerial approval.
At the current time, Musk's first initiative is on pause as Twitter makes changes. Last week, Twitter introduced a more expensive $8 version of Twitter Blue that included a verification badge, and it turned out that debuting widespread verification led to account impersonation that impacted numerous companies.
Article Link: Hundreds of Twitter Employees Leaving After Elon Musk's 'Extremely Hardcore' Work Demands
Better start thinking up excuses for when Twitter files for bankruptcy within a year. I’m sure you’ll say it’s the workers’ fault or whatever, never the billionaire who went off the rails.
It might be because of his horrendous managerial skills? You don't buy a company, fire 88% of the staff, and expect morale to be high. He wants the remaining staff to be the tip-top 1% of workers, assuming that those he's got rid of were useless. If the entire infrastructure team and the team that maintains the core libraries that everyone at Twitter uses have resigned or been fired because they were in the useless 99%, then who in the 1% is going to take over? Where do they get the domain knowledge from? Everyone who knew anything has gone.
And yet, his managerial skills are exhibited there, too. Elon Musk didn't invent the rockets or write the code that runs them, he just employed people who knew what they were doing. At Twitter, he's used a scattergun and got rid of the people who knew what they were doing.
Because he's an a$$. He does "weird stuff" that ends up breaking the law, or calling people a paedophile. That's just not on. Calling it "weird stuff" is to lessen the impact that he has, and to make excuses for his behaviour. Anyone else would be fired for calling someone a paedophile, but because it's Musk and he does "weird stuff" that's suddenly okay?!
Why would the US government bail out a private company with about 700 employees?
The people who moderated the content on Twitter have gone, meaning there won't be any moderation. The result of that is that there will be more hate speech, fake news and misinformation, not less. You really think the moderators were sitting there allowing everything through?
Musk has shown in the last three weeks that he is an absolute idiot, and unfit to run any company the way he does. He's taken a great company and destroyed it.
You’ll find there was an out-of-court settlement regarding P&O as while they initially "got away with it", they were later prosecuted for their actions.
While Musk might not initially see action against him for this, he will eventually and it doesn't make what he's doing right. Why people admire him so much, is beyond me. He's a visionary for sure, but he's also clearly mentally unstable. I don't mean that as an insult, but just look at his actions. These aren't the actions of a sane individual.
Even if Steve planned a return to Apple from day one (don't know, doesn't matter), a lot of stars needed to align to make it real.
If non Jobs Apple had been run a bit better or by people a bit more stubborn when it come to admitting failure all that would be remembered of him is getting kicked out of Apple, founding a PC-company that went nowhere and Pixar.
I hope you are joking and really not this short sighted.It’s cost the world about $12 trillion so far just for ‘fixing’ Covid; I’m not sure $40b would have been able to save anyone! Let him have his fun
7,500 people could eventually lose their jobs and their income. That's potentially 7,500 "families" including children, dependents and more. That's 7,500 people unable to pay bills, feed themselves or pay for their families.
But based on your comments, it's ok to pi$$ about with peoples livelihoods. I hope this never happens to you.
It is not outrage it is that Musk seems to not know what the hell he is doing, some master plan, perhaps, but he is changing his strategy by the day, sometimes reversing his decisions by the hour, does not appear to be Warren Buffett level of decision making right now.
Layoffs sure, tech companies are doing it en masse right now, but are they well thought out layoffs?
But this thread is full of nutbar posts, world hunger, do they understand that hunger levels are close to the lowest levels in world history. Someone else carped about world hunger and blamed it on greedy capitalists, wrote we need a new system, some of those systems have been tried and hundreds of millions have been killed by collective farming and other wonderful ideas, capitalism has probably brought more people out of hunger than any other system combined.
One of the things that Twitter is perfect for is breaking news events, yet I have not seen Elon Musk tweet one idea to improve and excel in this area. Jack Dorsey was no better, the site barely changed in his tenure, so many damn things that could be done to make Twitter the ultimate place for news, movie premieres, sporting events, product debuts, they could make it easier to find only the tweets of professionals covering all of those events, yeah you have lists, but so many things could be done to break that ability wide open.
And yet, crickets, for years and ongoing.
- Status