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As long as it's clear in the contract, then it's fair game. The employees know what they are going in for, and can make better decision. At least it's not in many other companies who said 40 hours week but then implicitly require you to be 75 hours week. I'd rather see the company being upfront about the working requirement and condition.
I know in the US workers are basically serfs, but Twitter is a global company and these changes will run into legal trouble at least in Europe. He’s going to do a moonwalk on a lot of these changes and appears he’s already started.
 
I laugh at all the people here that are outraged by this. It’s especially funny when you see it on a website dedicated to the company, that was rebuilt in a similar way by the ruthless and great Steve Jobs. You just have to get rid off B and C players. But that’s what only B and C players can’t understand.
I don't think many here would would say that laying off a percentage of Twitter's workforce is a bad idea. But laying off 50% a week after starting, and having a loyalty test ultimatum to weed out much of the rest probably isn't the best way to keep the best people. How can you get a feel for which areas of the company need cutbacks after only one week?

And I think people are more amused than outraged.
 
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I don't think many here would would say that laying off a percentage of Twitter's workforce is a bad idea. But laying off 50% a week after starting, and having a loyalty test ultimatum to weed out much of the rest probably isn't the best way to keep the best people. How can you get a feel for which areas of the company need cutbacks after only one week?

And I think people are more amused than outraged.

Or firing people because they insulted him on Twitter, just have a coherent plan, layoffs are horrible, only caveat being that tech workers on some level expect or know their jobs are never fully secure, I imagine all of the workers that walked off yesterday are confident they can get other jobs in the industry, but again, if there was some grand strategic vision, then fine, it is his company, go for it, but there is zero evidence of a plan, that is why people are amused and shaking their heads on Twitter, so far he is running the place as if he was Connor Roy from "Succession".
 
hundreds of millions have been killed by collective farming
Riiiight. Either you need to brush up on that part of history, or you’ve been reading the history books revised by wingnutjobs. 😂 Collective farming had very little to do with that. On the other hand, a single leader who had absolute control over the workers and little regard for their wellbeing had a lot to do with it. There’s a sort of musky scent about that pile that can’t really be ignored.
 
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Riiiight. Either you need to brush up on that part of history, or you’ve been reading the history books revised by wingnutjobs. 😂 Collective farming had very little to do with that. On the other hand, a single leader who had absolute control over the workers and little regard for their wellbeing had a lot to do with it. There’s a sort of musky scent about that pile that can’t really be ignored.

You have not done the studying, first off wake me up when you have leaders that are not self interested, the whole quest for power corrupts all in some ways, but secondly it is more than just evil warlords like Joseph Stalin that killed millions in the Soviet Union related to those farming practices, and you would know this if you studied economics.
 
You might want to fact check “bought with his money”. Binance, China, and Saudi Arabia backed it. His picture in Texas opening with cowboy hat and sunglasses really looked like Jim Jones moment. He just might lose security clearances from this

fact check what? It’s his company to run how he wants to. That’s a fact.
 
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He is changing the corporate culture there while having to reduce the work force at the same time. This philosophy was the same at SpaceX. So he ends up with the type of people he is used to. Less blood on his hands as he didn’t have to fire people this time. The people fired before were to be terminated by the old management anyway.


For me loyalty is everything. If they are loyal to me I will go all out for them. If they are of a different mind - why on earth would you want them around? They aren’t working for you so why pay them.



I thought he would move it all to Texas and solve the employee reduction problem that way. Anyway…
 
I am curious as to where people are getting that Twitter employee's are lazy? Where is the evidence of this? As long as they do the work that they are employed to do as per their employment contract then they are doing exactly what is being expected of them. This is not being lazy, it's doing as what their employment contract tells them to do.

If people are calling them lazy because they do not work the same hours as workers in other professions do then that is wrong and just shows how missguided these people are.

Oh and please do not quote anything from Musk saying Twitter workers are lazy because Musk's idea of lazy is different to everyone elses. Basically if you do not put in 75+ hours a week and do so at a high intense level, as he claims he does, then a person is lazy by his standards. Thus his calling people lazy does not qualify as evidence.
 
I know in the US workers are basically serfs, but Twitter is a global company and these changes will run into legal trouble at least in Europe. He’s going to do a moonwalk on a lot of these changes and appears he’s already started.
MNCs can have different policies in each country subsidiaries according to local laws, nothing so strange about that. If Twitter broke the laws, the government can do their job. Simple.
 
Or a guy who makes self driving cars, amazing rockets, and free speech (open source code).

But I get it, Elon haters spend more time talking about him than Elon lovers. Lmao
Poor musk has lost himself in hubris and vanity. I suspect he’ll wind up losing it like MacAfee. He could have been a contender and actually helped the world, but he chose to play king of the twitter sewer instead.
 
The American dream lol. I will be laughing when Twitter folds. These employees that have been treated so badly will just walk into other jobs, and what’s more nobody else that actually has options would want to work under him
 
You have not done the studying, first off wake me up when you have leaders that are not self interested, the whole quest for power corrupts all in some ways, but secondly it is more than just evil warlords like Joseph Stalin that killed millions in the Soviet Union related to those farming practices, and you would know this if you studied economics.
You stated that…
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hundreds of millions have been killed by collective farming

…not ”related to those practises” but ”killed by”. Wake me up when you’re ready to back that up. Also, it wasn’t capitalism as a system that made the west rich, it was colonialism and the resulting redistribution of wealth and resources that made possible technological advances. Capitalism just made sure that the wealth was not evenly distributed. On that note, what we have is not capitalism as it was when it sort of worked, we have crony capitalism, which has made an increasingly small number of people fabulously wealthy and an increasingly large number of people barely able to survive. The problem of capitalism in its current form is that it excuses inhumane behaviour and suicidal policies on a global scale in the name of short term profit. If you want to simp that, go ahead but I’ll call out bs when I see it.
 
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I’m hesitant to say this because it does seem like he’s destroying Twitter in some ways (which is fine with me), but at the same time… did a social media company really need 7,500 employees? I almost guarantee all “moderation” is handled by AI looking for offensive terms in reports and there were certainly less than 1000 tech people running the site, so seems like a lot of bloat.

Besides the verification faux pas, I don’t really see anything wrong with what he’s done so far. Sure he sounds like a terrible boss, but Steve Jobs would have been a nightmare to work for too despite delivering industry changing products.
 
How to get rid of 90% of the staff without paying $1 or worry about unemployment claims 101. It's actually pretty smart. Gets him in the news and people talking about Twitter again, solves the over staffing problems. Reality is nobody really cares about these people and Twitter will grow despite all this. People only "care" because it's the thing of the week. Same as supporting a cause by changing a profile picture and actually thinking you did something. All the outrage is only that...people yelling in comments or ironically posting about it on Twitter.

Is it how I would treat people or deal with m&a scenarios? No.
 
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