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So you're paying $9/week for a device that can charge your phone? Am I understanding that right? If so, that seems colossally stupid.

not if you're someplace where you can't use a wall charger. kind of the entire point of it.
 
No thanks.

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not if you're someplace where you can't use a wall charger. kind of the entire point of it.

You can buy chargers for $35 that will charge your phone 4-5 times and it never needs a new cartridge. These things are pointless as hell.
 
The capacity of a fresh $1.25 Energizer D battery is 31.5 Watt-Hours. [ ... ] Four AA batteries ($1 to $4, depending on quantity and merchant) provide 16 WH of power and are readily available almost anywhere.

Where do you find such high-capacity batteries?

Looking at e.g. http://www.zbattery.com/zbattery/batteryinfo.html it appears that the D cells provide 13-16 Wh under their load test; from http://ww2.duracell.com/media/en-US/pdf/gtcl/Product_Data_Sheet/NA_DATASHEETS/MN1300_US_CT.pdf, it appears that at a 2 W drain, the capacity would be closer to 3 Wh [ 1.4 hours before voltage drops to 0.8V ]. So if you used 3 D cells to provide ≈5 W of charging, you'd get about 10 Wh out of them. 9 of those ought to be roughly equivalent to one cartridge, but a lot heavier.
 
Doesn't sound so bad. Would come in handy when I go camping. At the moment I just switch my phone off but it also means I don't get to shoot video or check my emails or messages.
Last time I went hiking I couldn't be informed a relative was injured so... yeah.

I know there are solar chargers, a friend has one but they haven't been so useful in the UK!
 
If it works in sub-zero temperatures that could give it another advantage over battery powered emergency chargers, so Kenton Cool and Ranulph Fiennes might find a use for it.
 
Obviously, none of the people making comments has ever been on an extended camping trip.

I can recall being away from all technology while canoeing through the Okefenokee Swamp for several days. That was prior to the cell phone / smart phone, and no service would have been available there - since it isn't there today.

Same goes for a mountain climbing expedition. Sailing around the world might be another matter since solar power is probably a better choice there.
 
Obviously, none of the people making comments has ever been on an extended camping trip.

I can recall being away from all technology while canoeing through the Okefenokee Swamp for several days. That was prior to the cell phone / smart phone, and no service would have been available there - since it isn't there today.

Same goes for a mountain climbing expedition. Sailing around the world might be another matter since solar power is probably a better choice there.

No, I think what they are saying is that there are many more convenient solutions. I can buy 100 AA batteries and a battery operated USB charger for about $60. Not to mention there are hand crank options as well for about $20. Both of which are probably a hell of a lot lighter than this thing as described. Lets also assume that when you are camping, you are camping, fishing, hiking.... not talking on your phone for hours.
 
Uncompetitive future flop if requiring wide acceptance.

If only a niche product this seems very inexpensive.
 
I would recommend a solar powered battery instead like one of these for $20:
http://www.amazon.com/Poweradd-Apollo-Constructed-Emergency-Charging/dp/B00DLUYSPO

Have you ever tried to charge one of those gizmos from the attached solar panel? Invariably you'll discover that the solar panel can only achieve between 1/4 and 1/2 of a charge on the battery, no matter how long you leave the thing in the sun. There's just not enough panel to charge the included battery.
 
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Never going to fly at that price

The fact that you can't re-charge the cartridge at home via a simple method is a deal breaker. Locating a sore & coughing up another $9+ is way high & inconvenient to say the least.

It also looks rather large to carry in your pocket. I just hear, "Are you excited to see me, or is that your hydrogen iPhone charger in your front pocket?" :D
 
No, I think what they are saying is that there are many more convenient solutions. I can buy 100 AA batteries and a battery operated USB charger for about $60. Not to mention there are hand crank options as well for about $20. Both of which are probably a hell of a lot lighter than this thing as described. Lets also assume that when you are camping, you are camping, fishing, hiking.... not talking on your phone for hours.

Sure. You can buy 100 (cheap) AA batteries and the associated USB box for somewhere around that price. But do you want to *carry* 100 AA batteries with you everywhere? (They weigh in at a touch over 5 lbs *loose*.)

The big battery drain for people who are "camping, fishing, hiking..." isn't talking on their phone, it's using the phone as a GPS. Something you just *might* want to have handy (and have power for) if you're out doing those things and you get lost, or catastrophe strikes.
 
No thanks.

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You can buy chargers for $35 that will charge your phone 4-5 times and it never needs a new cartridge. These things are pointless as hell.

$26 for my 10,400 mAh RAVPower - provides 5 VDC at 1 ampere for a week's time starting from fully charged. A second outlet provides 2.1 amps for Apple products. The size is about the same as my WD Passport portable hard drive.
 
Why does it have to be plugged in? I don't understand why I'd need BOTH exchanging the cartridges AND plugging the device in to use it.
You don't. Charging the main part of the device just gives it a bit more charge. You are perfectly able to just use the cartridges, no need to charge the device itself beyond, as they say, plugging it in for a bit after it's been dormant for a while.

Throw-away culture. :/
Negative. Well, sort of. The cartridges are most likely collected and sent back to a central processing place where they are topped up, effectively recycling them. Using your own hydrogen to top them up brings all sorts of problems, which is why they don't let you do that. Getting the exchange points to top up your cartridge rather than just swap you a new one can't happen because:
a) Requires extensive staff training
b) Would take time whereas a simple swap is effortless

My opinion, but yeah. I don't think this is a good product, I just can't help but provide answers or make corrections where I feel they are needed.

This post sums up perfectly why this is a super niche idea:

The stated capacity of a $9 replacement fuel cell is 25 Watt-Hours. The capacity of a fresh $1.25 Energizer D battery is 31.5 Watt-Hours. The replaceable fuel cartridge alone is considerably larger than a D cell.

Rayovac makes a AA battery powered USB charger for $10.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Rayovac-PS73-4B-Rayovac-7-Hour-4-AA-Alkaline-USB-Charger/26359020

Four AA batteries ($1 to $4, depending on quantity and merchant) provide 16 WH of power and are readily available almost anywhere.

I cannot think of an angle to play here that makes the Upp device look anything but foolish.
 
Sure. You can buy 100 (cheap) AA batteries and the associated USB box for somewhere around that price. But do you want to *carry* 100 AA batteries with you everywhere? (They weigh in at a touch over 5 lbs *loose*.)

The big battery drain for people who are "camping, fishing, hiking..." isn't talking on their phone, it's using the phone as a GPS. Something you just *might* want to have handy (and have power for) if you're out doing those things and you get lost, or catastrophe strikes.

Im not saying I would carry 100 batteries with me but that I could and it would cost a lot less than thing thing + refills. You could also buy a handheld or watch based GPS with is also small and power them for weeks with just a few of those batteries.

I know I am nit picking, but this just seems like tech that is kinda cool, but ultimately a bit overboard.
 
Obviously, none of the people making comments has ever been on an extended camping trip.

I can recall being away from all technology while canoeing through the Okefenokee Swamp for several days. That was prior to the cell phone / smart phone, and no service would have been available there - since it isn't there today.

Then why would I need to charge a phone anyway? Take a simple gps with some batteries (or one of the aforementioned $35 cheap battery packs).

Yes, and the fossil fuel that was burnt to generate the electricity you use to charge your devices just regrows on a tree.

Or just burn the tree.

I kid.
 
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