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HzO 'Talking to Apple' About Water Blocking Technology for Future iPhones
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Neither have I.
Its frequently amazing to me how many people on Mac Rumors simply fail to understand one of the fundamental principles that made Apple the success that it is. That simply adding more and more features (no matter how dubious their actual real-world value is) isn't the way that Apple makes the products that it does.
Do some iPhones get destroyed each year by being immersed in water? Absolutely. But I'll guarantee that number is a tiny fraction of those in circulation, and far, far fewer than the number that are lost through other causes: theft, fire, dropped on concrete, or simply mislaid. Which this magic coating is going to do nothing to ameliorate.
Short answer: If you are concerned about the financial loss of an iPhone - wouldn't you be better off buying one of insurance policies offered by mobile phone companies?
Next up, people need to appreciate that this coating doesn't provide absolute waterproofness. It might work OK in a booth at CES. But how does it handle hot water? Salt water? Water filled with the sort of filth you find in a river or (heaven forbid) a toilet? Do you want to put an iPhone thats been dunked in raw sewage in your pocket? How about up against your face?
Lastly, you need to consider the fact that loss of a mobile phone (even a shiny new iPhone 4S) isn't usually a catastrophe. An inconvenience, sure. But not a matter of life and death. Which is all the more reason for people to stop and think about what's really important to them, and whats the best way to spend their resources. People love their dogs - but I still don't think anyone ever bought mortgage insurance on their doghouse.
Well Sony's president let it slip that the iPhone 4S would have Sony's 8MP camera, back in April 2011. Guess what, nothing happened.. the 4S still came out with a Sony camera.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/224137/sony_ceo_slips_reveals_iphone_5_camera_spec.html
Apple already replaces water or otherwise damaged iPhones at a relatively low cost ($199 for the 4S or $149 for the older ones). That's close to or even less than manufacturing/distribution cost.
Why when Ross Nanotechnology also have an excellent system coming to the market.
This company are not the only one.
I can't see apple ever doing this. As somebody else said, what percentage of iPhone sales are out of warranty replacements/water damage replacements? The market for OOW replacements is huge. They would lose so much money if the phones were indestructible.
I wonder if the 'moisture' sensors in the iPhone went haywire? I wonder if they checked them after their demonstration? 
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You're talking about complete immersion (and catastrophic loss), e.g. phone dropped into a toilet or sink or pond. Sure, that probably doesn't happen too often. But how many people use their iPhones in the rain? Or drop it on the ground? What if that ground was covered in snow or slush, like my city is right now? What about the extreme opposite, how many people keep their phone in a pocket during a workout or even something like mowing the lawn on a hot day, and find the contents of their pockets drenched in sweat?
And I haven't even owned my iPhone for a full year yet and I've already had water or coffee spilled onto it twice (once my own fault, once by a clumsy friend). Thank goodness for my Otterbox case which kept it dry both times.
I wouldn't be interested in this "waterproof" coating if it added a lot of extra cost, for the reasons you state: it's not worth it given the relatively low risk. But if it didn't cost much, it is absolutely a useful selling feature.
most phones in Japan have a level of water proofing
due to the weather being so humid and people in the rainy season getting around in light clothing but getting soaked.
Makes bloody good sense.
Greatly improves their product line hope they take it on.
due to the weather being so humid and people in the rainy season getting around in light clothing but getting soaked.
Makes bloody good sense.
Greatly improves their product line hope they take it on.
If they made it a selling feature, how long would it be before some nimrod tried to make a Jacques Cousteau video with it?
Electronics and water simply don't mix. Its one thing to do flashy video, under controlled conditions. But who knows what the long-term effects would be? Rust and oxidation doesn't happen instantly. Water might be temporarily repelled, but how long before moisture started seeping into capacitors and batteries. How does Apple possibly safety test all the possible nasty combinations of liquids "waterproof" might infer?
Does Apple want to be liable for fires or exploding batteries that happen six months or a year after their "waterproof" phone gets dropped in the sink?
If the phone gets dropped in water, but keeps "working", who is going to make sure you get all the water out? Or are people going to start carrying around their own personal little Legionnaires Disease incubator (one that they regularly hold up to their mouth and breathe into)?
Apple puts the moisture sensor in its devices for a good reason. An electronic device that has been exposed to excessive moisture is unreliable and potentially dangerous.
If anybody's actually interested in going this Liquipel route, I found a coupon code that gives you 10% off... Use STOTIA5 in the Discount Codes field at checkout.
Outstanding!
Assuming that the coating would not create any problems in and of itself (such as repair problems or heat dissipation) - it would be a boon.
Not only would it save consumers money by reducing the need to replace a phone from water damage after it was out of warrantee, it would also save Apple money in providing a replacement.
I can't see a downside - assuming the caveat in the first paragraph.
Assuming that the coating would not create any problems in and of itself (such as repair problems or heat dissipation) - it would be a boon.
Not only would it save consumers money by reducing the need to replace a phone from water damage after it was out of warrantee, it would also save Apple money in providing a replacement.
I can't see a downside - assuming the caveat in the first paragraph.
Apple would never do this they make too much money off water damage. If anything they will buy the company then shut it down.
I can just see people dunking their iphones in water on purpose if Apple goes this route and not thinking that water typically is not just water. Just because the device resists water, doesn't mean water can't get trapped in the small spaces inside an iPhone and leave undesired and possibly harmful contaminants behind.
It's hard to gauge just how effective these sorts of products are, as I'd bet that demos like this are done using distilled water, which doesn't conduct electricity to nearly the extent of most water.
Not that I'm saying this product is BS, but any real world application would likely be much more hazardous to the phone than any of these demos will show you.
Not that I'm saying this product is BS, but any real world application would likely be much more hazardous to the phone than any of these demos will show you.
I don't care what they do, I'm pulling out
After being a victim of their Final Cut Pro "upgrade", I am not trusting them anymore. We are worthless for them. At least Microsoft kept a compatibility with MS DOS. Apple went against all their professional video editing community. And what's with iWeb? I don't trust them. IOS will be dropped as soon as they find a better way. Besides, on their first iPhone launch they insisted on having expensive monopoly companies sell us the phone expensive, unsubsidized, and unlocked contracts, with many rip offs (German Telecom). So, bye bye iPhone, Hello Android.
After being a victim of their Final Cut Pro "upgrade", I am not trusting them anymore. We are worthless for them. At least Microsoft kept a compatibility with MS DOS. Apple went against all their professional video editing community. And what's with iWeb? I don't trust them. IOS will be dropped as soon as they find a better way. Besides, on their first iPhone launch they insisted on having expensive monopoly companies sell us the phone expensive, unsubsidized, and unlocked contracts, with many rip offs (German Telecom). So, bye bye iPhone, Hello Android.
I don't have any specific knowledge, but I'm pretty sure magnetism beats the speed of sound...
It would have really short range, but idk i think it could be awesome.
especially if you were able to put it in the basement or something, and let it power all devices in your house!
except that you couldn't have any metal in your house :/
altho if Apple made a small base like they do now, but it was magnetic, they could FINALLY make a completely sealed iPhone!
and the speaker could be mounted to the back, allowing the whole case to vibrate, making the speaker even louder. (may have to use an exotic material for a decent sounding speaker tho.)
especially if you were able to put it in the basement or something, and let it power all devices in your house!
except that you couldn't have any metal in your house :/
altho if Apple made a small base like they do now, but it was magnetic, they could FINALLY make a completely sealed iPhone!
and the speaker could be mounted to the back, allowing the whole case to vibrate, making the speaker even louder. (may have to use an exotic material for a decent sounding speaker tho.)
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I think I'm going with Liquipel...
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Well, iWeb was made so people could actually do something wtih the Macs they weren't buying. Apple did it because they HAD to to give the Mac ANY chance of survival. now with Intel chips and an expanding user base, they don't have to anymore. not to mention with the FreeBSD core, almost any Unix app can be ported to Mac.
This isn't "HzO technology". Waterproofing nano coating has been out for couple of years now. You can get your iPhone coated by Liquipel if you like. Also Golden Shellback and couple of others have the same tech but are more OEM driven. Anyway, all of these companies are mainly looking for their "big break" with OEM's.