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This would be an amazing feature to have. I cant wait for Apple to jump on this.


That said, anybody else feel like that old dude was trying a bit too hard to be "cool"? He should have been in a smoking jacket with Ella Fitzgerald playing through the speaker...I would have respected that 99999999999% more. :cool:
 
Unfortunately, Apple would rather you just buy a new phone if you get yours wet :(

not sure why this guy got so much hate...

As everyone is saying, this tech has been around for some time now. There's at least one reason why Apple has yet to adopt it...
 
Now THIS would be some amazing technology to put in their iPhones. As a matter of fact, it'd be great for every phone/electronic device to adopt this at some point. This would be another game changer for the industry, while it's always good to be careful, it's sometimes hard to avoid accidents that happen and this would allow for one less thing to worry about.
 
Water iPhones already possible - Lifeproof, driSuit cases

http://www.lifeproof.com and more recently, http://www.mydrisuit.com, are making iPhone cases that are waterproof.

Lifeproof uses Goretex, a fabric mesh which lets air (and thus sound) through but not water. driSuit might use the same idea. Look on youtube for 'Lifeproof' and you'll find plenty of people underwater recording video with iPhone.
 
I don't get why some people aren't liking this idea (unless they are unsure of whether this might cause other issues, which is understandable). If it doesn't cause those consequences, then I don't see the issue lol

Apple is not going to increase the price for adding a coating of any sort, as they obviously haven't done that in the past (as a matter of fact they occasionally lower their prices during product refreshes), and how can it be a negative thing to ADD durability, even if "only a few" might experience water damage? It's a bad thing to add support for something you might not have experienced yet but very well might in the future? It's not like their removing functionality. Some people just seem to complain for the sake of complaining. I know that some people might try to take this added support to the extreme and complain when a phonecall can't be made underwater, but to use a similar argument as what's been stated, the people willing to do that are far and few between. Far fewer than those that actually experience water-related accidents.
 
Personally, I don't get it. I've never dropped my phone in water and I don't plan to - if ever it happens by accident I'll claim on my insurance.

I don't think Apple would buy into this unless they could get a very low cost price. Most people don't need a waterproof phone.
 
How does it work?

So what are the risks of it?
What chemicals are they using?
Effect on the skin contact?
Any environmental impact?
Health concerns?
 
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TimUSCA said:
This is an example of a company that would make sense for Apple to just outright buy. The iPhone being waterproof would be a *major* selling point.

Apple has the cash (easily) and I strongly dislike Samsung as of late.

@TimCook: "Just do it."
 
Cold Coffee...

Years back in 2008 -

the Nano Coating was broadly discussed, when

http://golden-shellback.com/

showcased their Solution on NBC's Today Show...


Followed in the upcoming years by Spray-on Coating:

- http://www.psfk.com/2011/11/spray-coating-makes-iphone-waterproof.html
&
- NEVERWET


Now this year at CES 2012 - www.liquipel.com + www.hzo.me
heated the same principle up again...

WHY the heck should Apple incorporate such a Coating?!

It would cannibalize the Sale of new iOS Devices due to Water damaged Devices that slipped into the Pool, the Toilet, the Water Bucket or else...
 
Great Idea, but i think apple will not add this feature to the apple Iphone or Ipads, they will lose out on the backend for repairs and selling replacements.
 
I don't have any specific knowledge, but I'm pretty sure magnetism beats the speed of sound...

It does. But I don't see what the speed of sound has to do with it. :) Maybe you meant the speed of light? ... In which case: All these signals do travel at the same speed; that of light / electromanetic radiation in the medium in question.

What I was getting at was that no matter how fast the ability of the circuit board to switch from the magnetic 1s to the magnetic 0s, ...
1) the 30-pin cable would be just as fast, if not faster,
2) the data in the 30-pin connector has 30 channels to transfer this data (30 parallel channels to switch from 1s to 0s simultaniously) while the magnetic inducer would likely have far fewer than 30 channels / would not be able to fit 30 channels in the same physically confined space as the 30-pin connector.

But then again, I've been known to be wrong before. ;)
 
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Being waterprrof is not new. I have a 10+ year old hand held radio itdoes marine band frequency and is made for use on boats. I can drop in in seawater and it still works. Paid about $170 for it a long time ago. If you look at part catalogs there are any number of waterproof connectors and such. Apple has just been cheap, and greedy to sell you a replacement.

It was never about the technology. The old way to build a waterproof device was simply to dip the circuit card in epoxy

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because I drop my iphone in the water everyday.


If it were waterproof you would. I had a waterproof dive camera and I'd routinely place it under the tap to clean it. I think you'd do the same with a waterproof ipod, just ues hand soap and water to remove the fingerprints. Like cleaning eye glases

For the price Apple charges you'd just expect this. It adds very little to the cost
 
For those of you that think this is so 'revolutionary' you need to just google conformal coatings. This has been done for years, and is nothing new, exciting or groundbreaking at this point. I have been water cooling computers for almost 15 years now and have used conformal coatings you can spray out of a can that work just as the video with the iphone. I LOL'd at "these guys just hit the lottery" :D Trust me, Apple has known about conformal coatings forever, they are not stupid and like I said it is nothing new. There are potential downsides, one is that it can help to retain heat...

Ever think if it's been done for years that this company just might have a different approach/solution that solves any downside that use to be?

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Why wait?

http://www.liquipel.com/

Its already being done, I am going to send my wifes phone to try it out! Women who put phones in their back pocket, then us the bathroom, guess where the phone ends up?

"using technology only found on the natural world on the surface of the sun"

LMFAO!

Who again was the first man to land on the surface of the sun? I've seem to forgot...
 
Great ... now I can iMessage my wife while I'm on scuba diving .. or some other diving :eek:

" ... Not gonna be home in another 2 weeks, don't wait. I'm diving"
 
I don't see how this technology could continue to work on an electrical contact like the iPhone/iPod dock or headphone jack since after repeated use the coating would have to wear off from the physical abrasion of plugging/unplugging your docking cable and headphones. I suppose even with some small scratches it would remain hydrophobic on a larger scale but eventually it would have to wear off (unless it is EXTREMELY hard).
 
Personally, I don't get it. I've never dropped my phone in water and I don't plan to - if ever it happens by accident I'll claim on my insurance.
Phone insurance? Tell me you don't pay for $250 deductible homeowner/renter insurance. Because the phones are only in the $700 range, making $500 ded or higher pointless.
 
Why would Apple (or anyone else) go with this now from HZO when so many other companies have been demonstrating it for years? IS HZO's tech somehow different?

One concern might be problems during charging. Someone dips the phone in a tub and it works great. Then takes that still wet phone and connects it to their charger, which may or may not be protected as well. Now you have a short and fire/electrocution hazard? I honestly don't know and am asking.

What makes you think you will get electrocuted?

Let Me explain, first the voltage is low, I don't own an iPhone but the standard charging voltage is 5 Volts.
And then the amount of power the charger delivers, again I don't own one but its probably not more than 5 Watts.

Formula

power = Volts X Current

5 Watt = 5 Volts X 1 Amp and most even don't deliver that 1 amp, more likely 6-700 mA
It can not deliver so much as in to kill you

Then in My country there is still a safety switch in the (Main)mains, it measures the difference in between the input and output, if there is any loss in mA the device sees this as a malfunction of the house electricity system and switches of.

Modern chargers are protected and the change getting a fire is extremely low.
 
Just because sprinklers go off doesn't mean everything in the room is already on fire. They are deployed when the fire is in a small area.

That is not always the case, I worked at many Factories, the MARS company one of them, in many of their control rooms there is a lot of expensive electrical stuff.
What happens in the case of a fire is that first the alarm goes of, then people and or fireman will rush to it, within a minute they can, or distinguish the fire, or in the case when the fire is too big switch on the sprinklers by hand.(Evaluate first)
They rather loose just parts of the control room than the whole control room by water damage.
And I talk about millions of Euros/Dollars.
Before they had a different sprinkler system with Halon but that gas is forbidden in Europe(America too?) now, bad for the environment.

Edit : Fires are rare in Control rooms, its Professional stuff and won't catch fire easily.




I don't see how this technology could continue to work on an electrical contact like the iPhone/iPod dock or headphone jack since after repeated use the coating would have to wear off from the physical abrasion of plugging/unplugging your docking cable and headphones. I suppose even with some small scratches it would remain hydrophobic on a larger scale but eventually it would have to wear off (unless it is EXTREMELY hard).

That's a valid point, if you coat the whole iPhone that would include the connectors, would that mean then that there won't be a connection possible, kind of strange.
Or it is possible but then it is not waterproof anymore.



Then this, because of the design of the iPhone it is impossible to remove the battery, if you drop it into the water and could remove the battery it could make a difference.
I had My phone in My pocket when somebody pushed me into water at a party, removed the battery instantly and opened it, cleaned all the electronics with Alcohol and it worked again for many years.

Apple probably does the same with returned iPhones, just clean the board with a certain solution and put them up as refurbs again, so they don't loose money on them.
 
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