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I can't decide Xbox 360 Elite or a PS3

Perhaps we should stop comparing in terms of games, because that's personal preference to the OP (who's probably either given up or decided by now). So games aside, a list should be made objectively of the pros of each console over the other.

Some things for experts to explain that can confuse people:
• Is bluetooth better than regular RF?
• Why do the PS3 and 360 perform similarly when the PS3 has 7 cores, not just 3?
• Is it better to have 512MB of shared ram or 256MB each to GPU and CPU?
 
There used to be Bluetooth lag, I don't know if it's there anymore. It was noticeable in computer mice from just 2 years ago.

The PS3 doesn't have 7 cores per se, they're like mini CPUs. But it takes 7 of them to match a 3 core CPU. The benefit of a Cell CPU is that you can add more of these "cores" without too much hassle. Unlike a proper multi-core CPU.

I'd say the 360 has it here - 512mb system ram and 10mb ultra hardcore fast ram for the GPU (EDRAM). Heck, just that 10mb matches 256mb of standard ram with the PS3.
 
Anarchy99 said:
a quick google search brought up this list of 360 and pc/360 exclusives for 2008

<snip - all I saw was a load of boring pc-type games and weak exclusives, hardly any comparable to titles I mentioned>

why do these discussions always turn in to fanboy brawls
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So, how about a simple platformer? First thing I asked for. Anything? Banjo 3 in 2008-9? That it? 360 has a huge amount of games, but they're not unlike the PC's offerings, which don't thrill me at all. ymmv, but I don't want a PC dressed up as a console, and I maintain that's what a 360 is.

After I point out I don't even OWN a PS3, the term "fanboy" just removes any worth from your post.
 
jnc said:
So, how about a simple platformer? First thing I asked for. Anything? Banjo 3 in 2008-9? That it? 360 has a huge amount of games, but they're not unlike the PC's offerings, which don't thrill me at all. ymmv, but I don't want a PC dressed up as a console, and I maintain that's what a 360 is.

After I point out I don't even OWN a PS3, the term "fanboy" just removes any worth from your post.
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The problem is games like Kameo (which I consider to be a Platformer, but shows up as an Adventure game) don't sell all that well in the US. I noticed you are in the UK. Different areas have different taste. UK really isn't big on shooters, but Singstar and GT5 sells like gangbusters over there.

Something else that needs to be taken into consideration is where everyone is posting from. Some people are in areas that really just don't have the same interest. Chalk it up to the reason why the PS3 is doing much better against the 360 everywhere but the US (plus the EU guys are used to higher prices unlike the US).
 
Anarchy99 said:
a quick google search brought up this list of 360 and pc/360 exclusives for 2008



• Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
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I'm not trying to get into a debate about games, since (as mentioned before) it is all personal preference. But I just want to point out: it hurts your argument that the very first game you list as an exclusive is in fact multi-platform. :eek:
 
diamond.g said:
The problem is games like Kameo (which I consider to be a Platformer, but shows up as an Adventure game) don't sell all that well in the US. I noticed you are in the UK. Different areas have different taste. UK really isn't big on shooters, but Singstar and GT5 sells like gangbusters over there.

Something else that needs to be taken into consideration is where everyone is posting from. Some people are in areas that really just don't have the same interest. Chalk it up to the reason why the PS3 is doing much better against the 360 everywhere but the US (plus the EU guys are used to higher prices unlike the US).
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Nice observation. 360: American made, American targeted. :p I'm amazed how well the Wii's doing, EVERYONE I can think of wants one. I'm not even sure they realise it's by the same people who brought the Gamecube, which was hated so fiercely here.
 
jnc said:
Nice observation. 360: American made, American targeted. :p I'm amazed how well the Wii's doing, EVERYONE I can think of wants one. I'm not even sure they realise it's by the same people who brought the Gamecube, which was hated so fiercely here.
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Well at least we can agree on something!! :p The Wii really is in a whole different league to the PS3 and 360.
 
GFLPraxis said:
Is that a universal truth, or is it only true of PCs? If a device is engineered with that usage in mind....

After all, in the PC world we'd say that a computer with a GPU using shared memory is always slower than one with a GPU with on-board RAM (like the 360).
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Eh, I should have said it adds more latency, which in a way makes it slower. Although skilled programmers can hide that latency.

Comparing it to a PC is bad form though. GPU's on PC have >50GB/s bandwidth. That is why sharing memory on a PC is such a large hit, you go from over 50 GB/s to under 10GB/s. On a console most of the components share the same bus, so there are no large jumps of speed.
 
diamond.g said:
Chalk it up to the reason why the PS3 is doing much better against the 360 everywhere but the US (plus the EU guys are used to higher prices unlike the US).
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360 is still a better seller in UK and Ireland too. What is important here is that Ireland had the biggest per capita ownership of Playstation 2 outside of Japan, and yet the 360 continues to outsell the PS3. That was a big big change here.

PS3 is still €500 here.... It still needs to drop €100 to really start shifting.
 
Yea I was going to post that too.

Funnily enough Sony launches in Europe are usually very good. A few days later and it's business as usual. This is probably where diamond.g is getting a bit mixed up.

AFAIK the UK charts are very similar to the Japan charts but with the PS3/360 flipped around. In that the handhelds sit at the top.
 
Antares said:
Now you're talking! Super Fanboy Bros. Brawl.

A cross-platform game of epic proportions!
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Which always made me wonder if it would be feasible for someone to make a program for multiplayer that all three systems could use. So someone with a PS3 could play someone with a 360 or Wii. This may already exist and I just don't know about it since I don't play multiplayer. If not, this would be a billion $ idea. (By the way, I have the idea patented. :D)
 
Antares said:
Now you're talking! Super Fanboy Bros. Brawl.

A cross-platform game of epic proportions!
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Featuring characters such as Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, Reggie Fils-Aime, Shigeru Miyamoto, Kaz Hirai, and Phil Harrison.

Each character has their own specialties; for example, Bill Gates can use his enormous wallet as a shield, and Reggie can shoot laser beams from his eyes and go into a Hulk-mode.

Okay, now someone HAS to make a homebrew game out of this.
 
GFLPraxis said:
Featuring characters such as Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, Reggie Fils-Aime, Shigeru Miyamoto, Kaz Hirai, and Phil Harrison.

Each character has their own specialties; for example, Bill Gates can use his enormous wallet as a shield, and Reggie can shoot laser beams from his eyes and go into a Hulk-mode.

Okay, now someone HAS to make a homebrew game out of this.
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Heh...and I was also picturing a hydra with multiple Yamauchi heads. There would also be special attacks like where a PS3 shoots Blu-ray discs at opposing characters, a giant XBox falls from the sky and crushes opponets, etc....

You know, I suppose this would be like celebrity death match.....Remember that show? They did make a game out of that. But I can totally picture a spoof with videogame industry people and references. This would make a perfect 2D fighter. Jimmi...get on it.
 
For the sake of interest/comparison, I just thought i'd mention that i've bought a PS3 40Gb.

This thread was a useful if inconclusive source of help, too :)
 
asxtb said:
Which always made me wonder if it would be feasible for someone to make a program for multiplayer that all three systems could use. So someone with a PS3 could play someone with a 360 or Wii. This may already exist and I just don't know about it since I don't play multiplayer. If not, this would be a billion $ idea. (By the way, I have the idea patented. :D)
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Heard they were going to do this with UT3.
 
Antares said:
Without reading back through this thread to double check, I remember him saying that he bought/had chosen to get a PS3 because it "definitely sounded like the system to get.."

And I agree. There are very few reasons for anyone to buy a 360, nowadays.
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the built in blu ray player? Oh wait that's the other one :D
 
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