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I can't take it anymore. Tropic Thunder Rant!

Most of the time, its kids that use the word, retard improperly as an insult.

As to the movie, there are others questioning the borderline story, including the use of blackface.
 
benlee said:
I was just watching something on TV about the premiere of "Tropic Thunder" the new COMEDY by Ben Stiller.

According to the report, people with nothing else to do but protest a movie they likely haven't even seen lately because the liberal use of the word "retard".

Seriously, we really need to stop this over sensitive B.S.

First of all, movies are supposed to have at least some parallels to the real world and people use the word 'retard' in real life. Get over it. If people are *******s they are going to pick on "special needs", "disabled" and "special" people regardless of what is presented in a COMEDY.

Second of all, its a *&%$&* comedy movie you &%$#@ retards.

Please talk me down!
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YOU CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!! You MUST be joking!!!! I can't take the ignorance of people just like YOU!!!! I mean really think about it...Do you have kids? What if you child was born and something happened that resulted in them having some form or Mental Retardation...or maybe the are 6yrs old and get hit by a car which leave them Mentally retarded.... I HOPE and pray NEVER experience the pain of WATCHING and LISTENING to people just like YOU make fun of YOUR child!!!!!!!!!!!!

And for those others on the boards...The medical term "retardation" has been used and abused in society for SOOO long that medical staff use it far and few between. Society has DISGRACED the word so much that anytime its used..its hurtful and degrading!
 
Mom2myboy said:
YOU CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!! You MUST be joking!!!! I can't take the ignorance of people just like YOU!!!! I mean really think about it...Do you have kids? What if you child was born and something happened that resulted in them having some form or Mental Retardation...or maybe the are 6yrs old and get hit by a car which leave them Mentally retarded.... I HOPE and pray NEVER experience the pain of WATCHING and LISTENING to people just like YOU make fun of YOUR child!!!!!!!!!!!!

And for those others on the boards...The medical term "retardation" has been used and abused in society for SOOO long that medical staff use it far and few between. Society has DISGRACED the word so much that anytime its used..its hurtful and degrading!
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IT'S A MOVIE! Get over it. If you can't stand to hear the word "retarded" that's fine, but keep quiet and let those of us who have a sense of humor enjoy our movies
 
Mom2myboy said:
YOU CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!! You MUST be joking!!!! I can't take the ignorance of people just like YOU!!!! I mean really think about it...Do you have kids? What if you child was born and something happened that resulted in them having some form or Mental Retardation...or maybe the are 6yrs old and get hit by a car which leave them Mentally retarded.... I HOPE and pray NEVER experience the pain of WATCHING and LISTENING to people just like YOU make fun of YOUR child!!!!!!!!!!!!

And for those others on the boards...The medical term "retardation" has been used and abused in society for SOOO long that medical staff use it far and few between. Society has DISGRACED the word so much that anytime its used..its hurtful and degrading!
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It's much more difficult to eliminate a social meme like the liberal use of the word "retarded" than it is to simply change the original term. How does "mentally handicapped" grab you?

When the actors onscreen use the word, they are not making fun of every mentally handicapped person out there. That's the mistake you're making. In the screenwriters' eyes, the word "retarded," has nothing to do with retarded people, and only has everything to do with its social meaning. It's gotten to the point where we no longer use the word "retard" to describe a mentally handicapped person, because that word has taken on a different meaning.

What if Ben Stiller said to you, "Your son is retarded"?

What if he said to you, "Your son is mentally handicapped"?

Although both are technically equivalent, one is clearly offensive, the other clearly innocuous. Different meanings nowadays. There isn't much of a parallel anymore.
 
I don't see what sets this movie apart from a hundred others out there...

The context will determine whether someone is using the word 'retarded' in a derogatory way; I personally have no qualms with it's use in general - and would take issue with how someone treated anyone who was retarded, regardless of the word they use. That being the case, simply using a word that originated in the medical field in the first place is no big deal. It's the attitude that some people take towards those that have such difficulties.

I mean to say, saying 'retarded' is not a problem. If you treat someone who is in a derogatory way it's wrong, whatever word you you use.

I really don't understand folks who take it such an extreme they say 'handi-capable' or get all up in arms about stuff like this - when the real issue is something else. Politically correct is okay to an extent, but some take it the extreme.

...and after all, if you're so hungry for media attention that you'll grasp at a Ben Stiller movie. I somethings think people just want something to be riled about.

mom2myby said:
...OO long that medical staff use it far and few between. Society has DIS...
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I believe the phrase you're looking for is few and far between.
 
The movie company must be laughing so hard in their offices with all this free publicity.

Think about it. How many people had never heard of this movie only to find it's a major news story because some dialogue spoken is deemed offensive to certain sections of society.

Now these people will consider going to see this movie just to see what all the fuss is about.
 
iMac-Knight said:
Most of the time, its kids that use the word, retard improperly as an insult.

As to the movie, there are others questioning the borderline story, including the use of blackface.
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So, It's wrong to make a white guy black just for the purposes of a movie?


Is it wrong to make a black guy white for the purposes of a movie?


I havent seen the movie obviously, but if that was the best actor for the role, even though it was intended to be a black role, whats the problem. I would only have a problem with it if it was intended to be a jab at black people.
 
raggedjimmi said:
Personally I think "retard" is a little OTT but I hate that whole "handi-capable" bit. They're handicapped - as in they aren't as physically abled as someone who isn't handicapped. There's nothing extra capable about it!
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I couldn't agree more with this comment. Society needs to stop trying to boost others up by using terms that do not in the least little bit apply to them.
 
Abstract said:
And when "partly sunny" replaced "partly cloudy".
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I thought they referred to what was over 50%, but below 90%. That is, if it is more sunny than cloudy, but not totally sunny, it is partly sunny and vice versa if more cloudy than sunny.

It just goes to show how vile a person I am.
 
TEG said:
Star Wars - Promotes Violence, No Religion, Humans with Powers, Extra Terrestrials
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Pardon me for going a little OT here, but isn't Star Wars considered one of the more heavily religious films of all time (barring films that are specially about religion, of course).

In fact, I just looked on Wikipedia and there's an entire entry devoted to Stars Wars and religion:

LINK
 
OscarTheGrouch said:
So, It's wrong to make a white guy black just for the purposes of a movie?


Is it wrong to make a black guy white for the purposes of a movie?


I havent seen the movie obviously, but if that was the best actor for the role, even though it was intended to be a black role, whats the problem. I would only have a problem with it if it was intended to be a jab at black people.
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The question wasn't the actor doing blackface, but the character within the movie, staying in blackface, pretending he's black.
 
iMac-Knight said:
The question wasn't the actor doing blackface, but the character within the movie, staying in blackface, pretending he's black.
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And he's an "Aussie" - it's hilarious!!

I could get all angry over the stuff about Crocodile Dundee and Dingoes eating babies but I won't because it's funny.
 
Mom2myboy said:
YOU CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!! You MUST be joking!!!! I can't take the ignorance of people just like YOU!!!! I mean really think about it...Do you have kids? What if you child was born and something happened that resulted in them having some form or Mental Retardation...or maybe the are 6yrs old and get hit by a car which leave them Mentally retarded.... I HOPE and pray NEVER experience the pain of WATCHING and LISTENING to people just like YOU make fun of YOUR child!!!!!!!!!!!!

And for those others on the boards...The medical term "retardation" has been used and abused in society for SOOO long that medical staff use it far and few between. Society has DISGRACED the word so much that anytime its used..its hurtful and degrading!
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Well, I somehow missed this post. Which was directed at me and insulted me. Now I am going to boycott this forum because someone called me ignorant. Actually, that makes more sense than the people boycotting the film because this insult is directed at me personally.

I have not seen the movie either and do not know the exact context of the use of the word some 14 times. However, I assume(d) it was not directed at a 6 year old mentally retarded child or adult and just a stupid person.

However, even if my assumption is wrong and they are pointing at a 6 year old child with severe mental problems and incapacities...Why boycott the movie? It is a MOVIE!!!! I don't think people should call mentally disabled people "retards" at all and would probably say something to someone who was doing so in an offensive way. However, the point is... our society is becoming so sensitive and PC that eventually no one will be able to speak a word because someone will be offensive. If we couldn't poke fun of people and especially groups of people there would be no comedy. Lighten up and realize that the 6 year old child that got hit by a car has worse problems than the utterances of a word in a movie that he will likely never see or understand. Protesting the movie is going to do nothing for this child except illustrate how retarded YOU are!


Oh...and what ever happened to "sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me"

Can we go back to teaching kids that?
 
Mom2myboy said:
I HOPE and pray NEVER experience the pain of WATCHING and LISTENING to people just like YOU make fun of YOUR child!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The movie is not making fun of mentally handicapped children. If it were, that would be a completely different story.

To me this is like the debate about Huckleberry Finn and the N-word. People get so upset that the book uses it and claims that any mention of it makes the book racist, but if you actually read the book, it is anti-racism. It makes fun of racism. Tropic Thunder does the same thing.

(Just to cover my ass: No, Tropic Thunder is not a work of art like Huckleberry Finn is and I am not comparing quality, but content and intent. Of course Huckleberry Finn is way different than Tropic Thunder.)
 
Macaddicttt said:
The movie is not making fun of mentally handicapped children. If it were, that would be a completely different story.

To me this is like the debate about Huckleberry Finn and the N-word. People get so upset that the book uses it and claims that any mention of it makes the book racist, but if you actually read the book, it is anti-racism. It makes fun of racism. Tropic Thunder does the same thing.

(Just to cover my ass: No, Tropic Thunder is not a work of art like Huckleberry Finn is and I am not comparing quality, but content and intent. Of course Huckleberry Finn is way different than Tropic Thunder.)
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Tropic Thunder is way better than Huckleberry Finn. I mean who wants to read about some kid on a raft anyway? Tropic Thunder has explosions and stuff.
 
iMac-Knight said:
Most of the time, its kids that use the word, retard improperly as an insult.

As to the movie, there are others questioning the borderline story, including the use of blackface.
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i dont remember an outcry when black guys pretended to be white girls in the movie "white chicks"

OscarTheGrouch said:
So, It's wrong to make a white guy black just for the purposes of a movie?


Is it wrong to make a black guy white for the purposes of a movie?


I havent seen the movie obviously, but if that was the best actor for the role, even though it was intended to be a black role, whats the problem. I would only have a problem with it if it was intended to be a jab at black people.
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i dont think its wrong as long as the movie is good


as for me, il say retarded to mean "stupid"
same with "gay"

for example, "that's so gay/retarded"
is it politcally correct? no but then again i dont care really
 
dukebound85 said:
i dont remember an outcry when black guys pretended to be white girls in the movie "white chicks"
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I laughed so hard at that movie. Especially when the guys girlfriend found his friend dressed up as a girl thinking he was having an affair. And he says "But baby! He's a MAN!" and she says "you're sick!" I spit out my drink at that point.
 
I just got back from Tropic Thunder, awesome movie. And having seen it, I have to say: WHAT'S THE BIG @#$%^ DEAL? I have seen far more offensive things in other movies. I think if there's anything in this movie to make a big deal about, it's a white guy playing a black guy (which I don't even think is something to make a big deal about). In the end, it's a freaking movie, and if you don't like it, don't watch it.
 
People will complain for the rest of time. Everything you do is potentially offensive to someone else. I wouldnt worry about it. These people have nothing better to do.
 
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