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I do not understand the 'notch' angst at all.
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Once the miniaturization tech is there, they could/will be able to move the sensors for Face ID in the 4mm bezels, and put the camera slightly below and just have a small circular cutout for it, similar to the essential phone but that doesn’t touch the border of the screen as to really make it look “full”. The camera would become basically an always-on black icon that’s way less obtrusive than the notch. As for the speaker, I believe the Xiaomi Mix phone uses one that doesn’t require a hole for the earpiece, and then you could add a real speaker at the top side of the phone mirroring the one on the bottom.
There’s my idea of a possible solution that might become feasible in the future. In the meantime, the notch does its job well enough
There’s my idea of a possible solution that might become feasible in the future. In the meantime, the notch does its job well enough
Apple essentially fit a Kinect into the notch, which makes it the smallest depth sensing camera system in the world.
I’m not impressed by other phones with a smaller top bezel, because they don’t have a depth sensing camera system.
Let’s not forget that Apple got rid of the bottom bezel by folding the OLED panel. No other company is doing this. The iPhone X has more tech on the front than any phone, yet has a smaller chin and forehead.
Do you want to tell it or shall I?
i'm don't care if you hate the thing.. or love the thing..
..but the symmetrical argument isn't very logical.
the iPhone X is definitely symmetrical..
this:
..is symmetrical.. just like these things are:
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i'm not even in agreement with the notion that things need to be symmetrical in order for humans to like how they look..
but the declaration "i hate iphoneX because it's not symmetrical" is.... uh.. (something)
idk, it seems like you (and many others), saw the X for the first time and immediately didn't like how it looked.. which is fine.. i'm not knocking that.. but what's weird is these people also seemingly are chasing down the weirdest freaking explanations of why they don't like it as a means to support the initial gut feeling of 'i don't like it'..
it would probably be better (or, the hate would probably be different) if the first time you saw it, you were neutral about it.. then did the thoughts from there..
or, another way of saying what i'm thinking is-- i bet there isn't a single person posting at this forum who initially loved the look of the X and now they hate it.. those who hate it, hated it right off the bat.. all of these reasonings of why they hate it came later.
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(my personal opinion == using the words love or hate to describe an electronic device is borderline ridiculous : )
A viewing screen or touchscreen with a chunk missing on the top is asymmetrical.
Its uneven.
Try doing the same thing to your TV screen or computer monitor and enjoy things wrapping around it.
Its a terrible idea and many do not like it that's it.
If you like it then go for it.
Its uneven.
Try doing the same thing to your TV screen or computer monitor and enjoy things wrapping around it.
Its a terrible idea and many do not like it that's it.
If you like it then go for it.
Personally I don't think the notch looks very good. As I understand it there will be plenty of times the average normal user, and probably myself too (!) would find bright 'ears' displayed during our use of the iPhone X, and I don't think I'd like that.
If it were up to me, I think the choice for a permanently blacked-out bezel with only the battery/signal/time info in the ears would be nice, which would go completely dark in certain situations, like for watching videos full screen or playing games etc.
Fundamentally I see the notch as a very visible compromise. And I recognise that design is often a compromise between the ideal and the practicalities of making a physical object, but I think many iPhones have a clean look to their design, where bezels have had function but the form doesn't seem like it's a compromise for the function - whereas I think the notch does look like a compromise. Just IMHO.
I just think there has been a certain amount of symmetry (on two axis, for the confused!) that has now been lost a little, and that doesn't look great. Not that I would want another notch added at the bottom just for symmetry's sake either...
I also think the trend towards smaller and smaller bezels actually harms functionality. Holding an iPhone in landscape has always meant you get some dead space to hold the device without obscuring the screen. Now it will be trickier to do that, and when you do, one edge will be a straight edge and the opposite will be the notched one. I guess you can hold it by the notch, but then you're obscuring the front camera which isn't ideal for certain obvious applications (facetime etc).
It just screams compromise to make the bezels smaller to me. I think as soon as Apple can put the cameras/sensors under the screen or something they will do.
This is all academic to me because I don't plan on buying an iPhone X. I'm sure it'll be a lovely device to use, overall, but the price, lack of TouchID, lack of a headphone socket, and yeah, the notch, mean I'm in no hurry to move from my iPhone SE, which just about the best iPhone Apple have ever made overall, IMHO.
But good luck to everyone who doesn't mind the notch and is looking forward to the iPhone X.
If it were up to me, I think the choice for a permanently blacked-out bezel with only the battery/signal/time info in the ears would be nice, which would go completely dark in certain situations, like for watching videos full screen or playing games etc.
Fundamentally I see the notch as a very visible compromise. And I recognise that design is often a compromise between the ideal and the practicalities of making a physical object, but I think many iPhones have a clean look to their design, where bezels have had function but the form doesn't seem like it's a compromise for the function - whereas I think the notch does look like a compromise. Just IMHO.
I just think there has been a certain amount of symmetry (on two axis, for the confused!) that has now been lost a little, and that doesn't look great. Not that I would want another notch added at the bottom just for symmetry's sake either...
I also think the trend towards smaller and smaller bezels actually harms functionality. Holding an iPhone in landscape has always meant you get some dead space to hold the device without obscuring the screen. Now it will be trickier to do that, and when you do, one edge will be a straight edge and the opposite will be the notched one. I guess you can hold it by the notch, but then you're obscuring the front camera which isn't ideal for certain obvious applications (facetime etc).
It just screams compromise to make the bezels smaller to me. I think as soon as Apple can put the cameras/sensors under the screen or something they will do.
This is all academic to me because I don't plan on buying an iPhone X. I'm sure it'll be a lovely device to use, overall, but the price, lack of TouchID, lack of a headphone socket, and yeah, the notch, mean I'm in no hurry to move from my iPhone SE, which just about the best iPhone Apple have ever made overall, IMHO.
But good luck to everyone who doesn't mind the notch and is looking forward to the iPhone X.
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You are trying too hard to make excuses that's all. Go get some more pictures and draw lines trying to convince people that this idea is great.
What you attached is a full size rectangular screen. There is no viewable chunk missing anywhere.
Now take a piece out on top of that or your TV and start using it like that cause Apple thinks its magical and revolutionary
LMAO
Its a ridiculous idea.
What you attached is a full size rectangular screen. There is no viewable chunk missing anywhere.
Now take a piece out on top of that or your TV and start using it like that cause Apple thinks its magical and revolutionary
LMAOIts a ridiculous idea.
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Don’t a lot of apps already have translucent areas for the status bar on iPhones? Why aren’t people complaining that the status bar cuts into their maps or photos or whatever? Because the status bar is right at the top and you aren’t focusing on that part - if something scrolls up underneath it you’re not looking at it anyway.
The notch is similar. If you had google maps use the ears to have the edges of the map visible under the status bar, that’d just be like the current status bars - it isn’t active information, but it is an extension of the app and you get a larger sense of space by seeing the app under the status bar (or in the ears in the case of the X)
i feel like there's a glitch in your thinking somewhere because you really think i'm trying to convince someone to like the X.. and even if i tell you explicitly that i'm not, you just don't believe it..
i'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.
i'm arguing against the logic being used by some people.. that's it.
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you're implying the notch is blocking content or affect the usability of an app.. is that right?
but you're not giving any examples of what you're talking about.
as far as i can gather, with any of the apps or usages of a phone, the notch isn't going to block anything..
the only instance i can think of is if you view video or images at full screen in which case the notch will block out a portion of the frame.. it's just that in this particular instance, more (much more) content will be blocked out by the sides (or top&bottom) of the phone than by the notch.. or, if the notch is problematic because of content clipping, why not complain even moreso about the sides clipping content?
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why try justifying the dislike based on poor logic? won't a simple "i don't like it" be more effective? and follow a better logic.. because lack of a logical explanation is better than poor logic imo.
Just look at screenshots where the notch is now in the way where previously it was not. How is the notch better than what we have now? (Hint: it’s not)
post a screenshot that shows what you're talking about..
where the notch is in the way.
i have googled it.
i haven't seen where the notch is blocking anything like you said it does. (or- "in the way")
that's why i'm asking for an example.
How much is Apple paying you to try to change people's mind about the OLED missing screen notch?
It's not working, it still sucks no matter how many excuses you try to make
It's not working, it still sucks no matter how many excuses you try to make
they're paying me $25 per postHow much is Apple paying you to try to change people's mind about the OLED missing screen notch?
It's not working, it still sucks no matter how many excuses you try to make
This being one of them. The notch or whatever is design incompetence. Steve would have said No so there’s no discussion other than to state it’s srupidity.
This is absolutely the best post i've read so far in this thread, or any other thread about the "hideous, insult to humanity, notch" (especially the last part). Who cares, it's a phone. Its not perfect, but at least it's not a super sized bezel.
That's a good deal.
I'll join you then, the new iPhone X screen is amazing and innovative
I'll join you then, the new iPhone X screen is amazing and innovative
You see, bezels are off to the side of the display and not going to obstruct any text or picture I immerse my eyes onto!