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I do not understand the 'notch' angst at all.
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It defeats getting rid of 3 bezels but sticking with one right at the top middle of a display.
Good point re:Maps. I guess the only thing with the notch compared to the current translucent use of the Status Bar is the latter has small text/symbols as an overlay, whereas the notch will be more prominent - two-thirds of the top strip will be completely black, which Google may think it's too much of an encroachment for a driving App where they want drivers to have as clear a visual as possible of upcoming streets etc.
X's overall screen size is still higher than current models, so I'd understand if Google did make use of the ears as you say. I'd get used to it & yeah, it would look pretty impressive.
Really interested in actual screenshots of Apps on the X.....a few more weeks & all will be revealed.
i personally keep the dock exposed.. but on the side:
albiet, there's another display next to this one..
but even on my laptop, the dock is on the side and not hidden.
not sure why facepalm but oh well.. don't hit yourself tooo hard at the expense of my dock not being hidden
(or-- idk.. go ahead and give it a good smack)
If thine eyes offend thee so much because of the notch, then pluck thine eyes out and feel offended no more.
Book of Jobs 1st psalm
You're assuming that aesthetics are Universal, when it's obvious that there's not even agreement on the Planetary level.
. Whether it's a superior civilization from another galaxy or the ghost of Steve Jobs, we aren't ever likely to see them weigh in on this issue. We have to fight this one out on our own. (Besides, if the images of the iPX are only traveling at light speed, the design of iPhone X will have been superseded by the iPhone MMMDXXXVII, give or take an M, by the time they get here.)On the practical level, the ears are there to push the Status Bar icons up into an under-used area of the device. On an aesthetic level, it seems they're present to draw attention to the TrueDepth sensor array. Building a display that wraps around the notch is not likely to be cheaper or as easy to build as one that ends just below the notch (which, of course, would result in the perfectly rectilinear display some yearn for). It takes more effort to have a notch than to draw a line below it, so Apple is doing this for a Reason, not half-baked stupidity.
If a developer's app normally blocks the Status Bar (some games I have do that) then they lose nothing by blacking out the "ears" (presuming Apple's standards allow developers to do that). Apps that do display the Status Bar icons gain additional screen real estate by having those icons pushed up into the ears. That seems like a plus to me.
I can't see why anyone has an issue with the notch when the device is held in portrait orientation. The violent disagreement seems to arise over landscape - at that point, the notch can definitely make the phone appear asymmetrical, and the "ears" offer no benefit in terms of efficient space utilization.
Still, since the vast majority of my usage (and that of most people) is in portrait, I like the notch - it pushes the Status Bar into otherwise-wasted space; a good thing in my book. Not that I've had strong feelings about the space "wasted" by a bezel, but for those who do... be happy!
Anyway, there's way too much sturm und drang over this issue for my taste. It's just one model year! You'd think this was the Ford Edsel or something!
shhh.. don't say that out loud around here.
people are going flip when they realize the non-rectilinear display is adding to the cost of iPhone X
It's not symmetrical horizontally. There's a giant black blob at the top of the screen when there's nothing at the bottom of the screen.
If you're holding the phone landscape it is asymmetrical.
If you can ignore it then good for. But some of us are bothered by the black blob.
Good point re:Maps. I guess the only thing with the notch compared to the current translucent use of the Status Bar is the latter has small text/symbols as an overlay, whereas the notch will be more prominent - two-thirds of the top strip will be completely black, which Google may think it's too much of an encroachment for a driving App where they want drivers to have as clear a visual as possible of upcoming streets etc.
X's overall screen size is still higher than current models, so I'd understand if Google did make use of the ears as you say. I'd get used to it & yeah, it would look pretty impressive.
Really interested in actual screenshots of Apps on the X.....a few more weeks & all will be revealed.
And that’s why Apple have a safe zone in the main rectangle of the phone where you would put important information. You aren’t supposed to put active content in the ears anyway so that’s fine - it really is just peripheral information like the current status bar.
I think Wonder Woman has a lot to answer for. People are focusing on that now infamous zoom view and using it as a huge example of why the notch is bad. But if you have a current iPhone and double tap the screen to zoom - you’re losing *evern more* of the video by forcing it to full screen. It isn’t a good solution in the first place, so pointing out the notch taking up some space doesn’t really matter.
Personally I hope they adapt the zoom to allow me to zoom up to the notch but not past it, because the wider screen gives me an option to view wider aspect ratio content much larger than on my 6s, and I’d prefer none of it to get cut off. But it is just one example use case and in most situations I think the notch won’t get in the way at all.
The notch isnt’ encroaching on the space, the ears are giving you more space. Glass is half full.
Can you explain the folding? How does it help eliminate the bezel? I thought it was at the top of the phone. No one had an answer in a thread I posted.
For all those people who really do not understand the notch concept, let me explain why I think (notice I say 'I think' because unlike many other I do not claim to know Apple's mind) that Apple are good with the notch and why I think it's a good idea to have the notch rather than to have the whole top part as a bezel.
Notice how the Galaxy phone not only has a bezel at the top but they have one at the bottom too. Apple have effectively provided a full screen phone even with the notch in a manner of speaking. You see by having the 'ears' rather than a bezel there is a psychological brain effect where the brain treats the notch as if it is covering up screen not replacing screen. This is a well known effect that is used in many optical illusions.
Let me show you an example. Here is a photo of a woman in a strapless bikini, but if I cover up the bikini with two blocks, it has the weird effect of appearing as if the woman is completely nude. Even if you see the bikini alternating. See for yourself. This is what I believe is the thinking behind Apple's decision, and like the way that Apple moved the keyboard up towards the screen when everyone else thought that the obvious place was away from the screen and closer to the user, but once they saw how it worked, it became the default way.
This is what will happen with the notch. Everyone will be doing that, which is going to be hilarious given all the hate.
Notice how the Galaxy phone not only has a bezel at the top but they have one at the bottom too. Apple have effectively provided a full screen phone even with the notch in a manner of speaking. You see by having the 'ears' rather than a bezel there is a psychological brain effect where the brain treats the notch as if it is covering up screen not replacing screen. This is a well known effect that is used in many optical illusions.
Let me show you an example. Here is a photo of a woman in a strapless bikini, but if I cover up the bikini with two blocks, it has the weird effect of appearing as if the woman is completely nude. Even if you see the bikini alternating. See for yourself. This is what I believe is the thinking behind Apple's decision, and like the way that Apple moved the keyboard up towards the screen when everyone else thought that the obvious place was away from the screen and closer to the user, but once they saw how it worked, it became the default way.
This is what will happen with the notch. Everyone will be doing that, which is going to be hilarious given all the hate.
Face palm.You're assuming that aesthetics are Universal, when it's obvious that there's not even agreement on the Planetary level.
On the practical level, the ears are there to push the Status Bar icons up into an under-used area of the device. On an aesthetic level, it seems they're present to draw attention to the TrueDepth sensor array. Building a display that wraps around the notch is not likely to be cheaper or as easy to build as one that ends just below the notch (which, of course, would result in the perfectly rectilinear display some yearn for). It takes more effort to have a notch than to draw a line below it, so Apple is doing this for a Reason, not half-baked stupidity.
If a developer's app normally blocks the Status Bar (some games I have do that) then they lose nothing by blacking out the "ears" (presuming Apple's standards allow developers to do that). Apps that do display the Status Bar icons gain additional screen real estate by having those icons pushed up into the ears. That seems like a plus to me.
I can't see why anyone has an issue with the notch when the device is held in portrait orientation. The violent disagreement seems to arise over landscape - at that point, the notch can definitely make the phone appear asymmetrical, and the "ears" offer no benefit in terms of efficient space utilization.
Still, since the vast majority of my usage (and that of most people) is in portrait, I like the notch - it pushes the Status Bar into otherwise-wasted space; a good thing in my book. Not that I've had strong feelings about the space "wasted" by a bezel, but for those who do... be happy!
Anyway, there's way too much sturm und drang over this issue for my taste. It's just one model year! You'd think this was the Ford Edsel or something!
As I’ve explained numerous times now, the notch is a good idea in hardware. It’s a beyond moronic idea to show it in software. You black the ears out, end of story. That’s good design, which is symmetrical and does not draw the eyes away from the content due to a lack of uniformity in the light being emitted into the eyeballs. Intelligence.
Good design is more than just symmetry FFIW, Apple have done what Samsung or even the non essential ph-1 did not think of, that is they removed the bottom bezel that is necessary for the screen controller by extending the screen and folding it underneath itself. Obvious once you see it. So by doing that they then are able to come as close to a truly genuine wall to wall screen as it is possible to get. Now the notch makes brilliant design sense that would not make sense if there was a bottom bezel.
See my post above that explains how the display around the notch gives the illusion that the phone is all screen and extends behind the notch even though it doesn't. In the same way that the body of the bikini model, is extended by the brain which is why she appears to be nude even though the two blocks are actually larger than the bikini. Even when you see the bikini, even when you know the illusion it does not stop it from working.
This is brilliant design. Clever design. Brave design. Why brave? Look at all the hate for the notch, but Apple knows that it will come to be seen for the brilliance that it is. Do you want to know what 'moronic' brain dead, "safe" ludicrous design looks like, check out the image below.
With curved edges you don't get display to the edge you get a bezel that is replace by reflections. That is bad design.
I can't wait for the iPhone X to be released so I can enjoy it and these pointless threads bashing the notch can die off.
We get it, you don't like it. Nothing is to be gained complaining on these forums. I really hope y'all follow through and vote with your wallet and won't buy iPhones for the next few years until the form factor changes.
We get it, you don't like it. Nothing is to be gained complaining on these forums. I really hope y'all follow through and vote with your wallet and won't buy iPhones for the next few years until the form factor changes.
My desktop is completely blank, there is nothing on it at all, I use 3 different shades of dark grey for my various spaces. The dock is on the left and it's hidden, the menu is also hidden. I use a wacom tablet so I have a button set to open a finder window. I also have the dock delay set to zero so that it shows instantly.
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It is the cleverest design I've ever seen because Apple have done what no one else could visualise. It is f#%$ing brilliant. See my bikini post for an explanation.
I definitely prefer just a notch on the top vs two ugly bezels, no matter how small on the top and bottom.Good design is more than just symmetry FFIW, Apple have done what Samsung or even the non essential ph-1 did not think of, that is they removed the bottom bezel that is necessary for the screen controller by extending the screen and folding it underneath itself. Obvious once you see it. So by doing that they then are able to come as close to a truly genuine wall to wall screen as it is possible to get. Now the notch makes brilliant design sense that would not make sense if there was a bottom bezel.
See my post above that explains how the display around the notch gives the illusion that the phone is all screen and extends behind the notch even though it doesn't. In the same way that the body of the bikini model, is extended by the brain which is why she appears to be nude even though the two blocks are actually larger than the bikini. Even when you see the bikini, even when you know the illusion it does not stop it from working.
This is brilliant design. Clever design. Brave design. Why brave? Look at all the hate for the notch, but Apple knows that it will come to be seen for the brilliance that it is. Do you want to know what 'moronic' brain dead, "safe" ludicrous design looks like, check out the image below.
With curved edges you don't get display to the edge you get a bezel that is replace by reflections. That is bad design.
People still don't realize how much engineering Apple put into making that edge to edge display.
I like the notch for the most part.
I like it because:
I don't like it because:
Like every design choice, it's a compromise. I'll be buying an iPhone X because I think that of every possible design choice Apple could have made in this regard, they actually went with the best one.
If Apple brought to market two versions of the iPhone X, one with the notch and one without it, I'd choose the version with the notch, no doubt about it.
I like it because:
- It minimizes the bezels
- It gives you a frontal visual cue of the orientation of the device
- It enhances the look of the phone and makes it unique compared to every other smartphone on the market
I don't like it because:
- Apps in landscape orientation have to make UI compromises, like white bars in Safari for example.
Like every design choice, it's a compromise. I'll be buying an iPhone X because I think that of every possible design choice Apple could have made in this regard, they actually went with the best one.
If Apple brought to market two versions of the iPhone X, one with the notch and one without it, I'd choose the version with the notch, no doubt about it.
You can get some clues here https://developer.apple.com/ios/human-interface-guidelines/overview/iphone-x/
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I'm sad for you that you don't have a button and have to go to the menu unnecessarily. I do have an image on one of my desktops which you might like... It's one of my favourite picassos with some grey around it. It's built for a 15" retina though.
[doublepost=1508077667][/doublepost]That every single tech writer in every single magazine all unanimously agree that the notch was a bad design decision, is the surest indication that it will go down in history as one of the most brilliant modern classic industrial design choices of the 21st century.
The notch is embarrassingly bad, unintelligent design. That’s the reality. The only accurate thing you said in regards to good/bad design is that the curved edges of the screen such as on the galaxy phones is also idiotic design.Good design is more than just symmetry FFIW, Apple have done what Samsung or even the non essential ph-1 did not think of, that is they removed the bottom bezel that is necessary for the screen controller by extending the screen and folding it underneath itself. Obvious once you see it. So by doing that they then are able to come as close to a truly genuine wall to wall screen as it is possible to get. Now the notch makes brilliant design sense that would not make sense if there was a bottom bezel.
See my post above that explains how the display around the notch gives the illusion that the phone is all screen and extends behind the notch even though it doesn't. In the same way that the body of the bikini model, is extended by the brain which is why she appears to be nude even though the two blocks are actually larger than the bikini. Even when you see the bikini, even when you know the illusion it does not stop it from working.
This is brilliant design. Clever design. Brave design. Why brave? Look at all the hate for the notch, but Apple knows that it will come to be seen for the brilliance that it is. Do you want to know what 'moronic' brain dead, "safe" ludicrous design looks like, check out the image below.
With curved edges you don't get display to the edge you get a bezel that is replace by reflections. That is bad design.
The only thing the display being lit in the ears does, is draws your eyes TO IT. IT DOESNT CREATE AN ILLUSION IT CREATES A DISTRACTION. You’ll see this in person when you receive the device. So enjoy that.
Noone else would pull such an idiotic move that's why.
Its not brilliant,its a very bad design and idea. they took a nice OLED screen and cut out a piece to put a bunch of hardware in where usable screen real estate should be in place.
What a joke
Its not brilliant,its a very bad design and idea. they took a nice OLED screen and cut out a piece to put a bunch of hardware in where usable screen real estate should be in place.
What a joke
Actually what most people who have actually had hands on time with the device have said is that it's not as distracting as it seems at first.
i'm guessing, upon first using the phone, you'll find out very quickly this isn't the case.
like, within the first minute or so of using it.
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