I Don't See The Point

[Chupa Chupa]

You can't answer a text without dictating or allowing for a simple reply. There are many scenarios where both options aren't available to me and I need to respond back.

Right, that's the point. At this point in my life I'm not going anywhere without a phone by my side. What happens if you feel ill during a run? Well if nobody is around you are screwed. That's something you might take for granted if you run with your phone now.

So in those cases you pull out the phone. I don't really understand your qualms. The Apple Watch from it's first introduction last fall was sold as an iPhone partner, not a stand alone device.

And again, with the running. I run with my iPhone now -- use it as a music player and with iSmoothrun to track my steps, pace, etc. If there is an emergency I can make a call. The watch doesn't change any of that but it does maybe let me free myself of a chest strap. So again, what is your issue here?

 

[douglasf13]

Honestly that is not the case with my text message and email correspondence.

Most of my texts can be canned or audio responses. Of course, emails aren't that way, but I get so many emails per day that I don't answer each one as they come in. I look at them, screen them, and then only answer the one's that are urgent in the moment.

 

[blairh]

So in those cases you pull out the phone. I don't really understand your qualms. The Apple Watch from it's first introduction last fall was sold as an iPhone partner, not a stand alone device.

And again, with the running. I run with my iPhone now -- use it as a music player and with iSmoothrun to track my steps, pace, etc. If there is an emergency I can make a call. The watch doesn't change any of that but it does maybe let me free myself of a chest strap. So again, what is your issue here?

So in those cases you pull out your phone. That's the point. You probably will be in those cases all the time. So you'll just end up pulling out the iPhone instead.

My qualm is the same as it was during the unveiling last fall. It's extremely limiting and consumers will see that.

My issue is that I keep hearing about how you can put music on your watch and ditch your iPhone at home. So that's technically true but it also means it could lead to potential danger.

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Most of my texts can be canned or audio responses. Of course, emails aren't that way, but I get so many emails per day that I don't answer each one as they come in. I look at them, screen them, and then only answer the one's that are urgent in the moment.

That's great if it works for you. I think a lot more consumers don't or can't rely on canned responses and dictating to their device. That's my point.

 

[Symtex]

So in those cases you pull out your phone. That's the point. You probably will be in those cases all the time. So you'll just end up pulling out the iPhone instead.

My qualm is the same as it was during the unveiling last fall. It's extremely limiting and consumers will see that.

My issue is that I keep hearing about how you can put music on your watch and ditch your iPhone at home. So that's technically true but it also means it could lead to potential danger.

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That's great if it works for you. I think a lot more consumers don't or can't rely on canned responses and dictating to their device. That's my point.

You underestimate how lazy the human species can be, The path of least resistance my friend.

 

[MH01]

That is the limitation of wearables. Apple did not solve the wearable problem for the consumer, they just decided to join what android has done and make a bigger profit.

I agree with you, I would have liked a different approach to wearables from apple, and not a cash cow.

 

[Mr.C]

I've had my Pebble for over a year, and it's become indispensable for me. Even with its limited functionality in comparison to the Apple Watch, it's just a part of my daily life.

No one NEEDS a smartwatch in the way that they need a cell phone, but once you have one and get accustomed to being able to glance at your watch for the incoming information it's really hard to imagine not having one.

Same here.

 

[darngooddesign]

“No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.”

 

[Dmaynard83]

Some people have greatness flash right in their face and can't see it. They will sale like crazy.

You didn't address his point. He said he doesn't understand what is so great about it.

From what I saw it can tell the time, and you can view notifications. Taking calls, texting all require you to talk in PUBLIC to your watch and come off looking like a douche.

We understand that it will sell like crazy.

 

[Broadus]

I'm not convinced of the Apple Watch's usefulness for me. I'm not saying "never," but definitely not now.

 

[douglasf13]

Same here.

Agreed. We all love notifications on the lock screen of our smart phones, because it doesn't require us to get into our phone to check certain things. The Watch is the next logical step.

 

[boshii]

Apple Watch is an iPhone accessory but it's not priced as such. This will be a hard sell for Apple.

 

[Symtex]

You didn't address his point. He said he doesn't understand what is so great about it.

From what I saw it can tell the time, and you can view notifications. Taking calls, texting all require you to talk in PUBLIC to your watch and come off looking like a douche.

We understand that it will sell like crazy.

I receive over 500 business emails a day. I am in meeting or talking to people all the time. Taking your phone out in a middle of a conversation is very disrespectful. The watch will allow to take a quick glance at your watch and see if the incoming email is actually important. All of this in a more discreet and quick fashion.

It may not mean much to some but for someone in my situation, what you call just "meh" is actually a vital part of my daily routine. The health stuff is that thing I don't care about. I already got a Suunto watch with a heart rate monitor.

 

[darngooddesign]

Apple Watch is an iPhone accessory but it's not priced as such. This will be a hard sell for Apple.

Please, this will be an easy sell for Apple.

 

[douglasf13]

I receive over 500 business emails a day. I am in meeting or talking to people all the time. Taking your phone out in a middle of a conversation is very disrespectful. The watch will allow to take a quick glance at your watch and see if the incoming email is actually important. All of this in a more discreet and quick fashion.

It may not mean much to some but for someone in my situation, what you call just "meh" is actually a vital part of my daily routine. The health stuff is that thing I don't care about. I already got a Suunto watch with a heart rate monitor.

Yeah, me too. As a business owner, I'm essentially dealing with clients and employees 24 hours a day via text/phone/email, so filtering out those things from my wrist will be fantastic.

 

[F1Mac]

Apple Watch is an iPhone accessory but it's not priced as such. This will be a hard sell for Apple.

From what I've heard, read and seen regarding the watch, I totally agree. I followed the keynote earlier today and I have absolutely no use for a product like this. And my watch might not be smart, but it looks way better ...The price is insanely high for an "iPhone complement".

 

[MacDevil7334]

From what I saw it can tell the time, and you can view notifications. Taking calls, texting all require you to talk in PUBLIC to your watch and come off looking like a douche.

This. I can already tell people who walk around talking to their watches are going to irritate me even more than the people who use their iPad as a camera.

 

[urda]

This. I can already tell people who walk around talking to their watches are going to irritate me even more than the people who use their iPad as a camera.

If these things irritate you, I'd hate to see something that actually matters bother you. I imagine it's a total system shutdown on your end when presented with a serious situation.

If someone using their iPad as a camera bugs you, you've got much bigger personal issues.

 

[/dev/toaster]

No one NEEDS a smartwatch in the way that they need a cell phone, but once you have one and get accustomed to being able to glance at your watch for the incoming information it's really hard to imagine not having one.

I got my first computer at age 9, some of my family said nobody NEEDS a computer.
I got my first laptop at age 14 and was told nobody NEEDS a portable computer.
I got my first pager at age 15 and was told nobody NEEDS a pager.
I got my first cellphone at age 17 and was told nobody NEEDS a cellphone.
I got my first cable model at age 18 and was told nobody NEEDS a full time internet connection at home.

... I heard the same crap about an EVDO card, satellite radio, AppleTV, iPad, iPhone, Palm pilot, iPod, portable CD player, etc ...

Hell, I remember a time when I got my first wifi router and many people never heard of wireless networks. It was a baffling at the time why you would needs to have portable wireless.

All in all, nobody *NEEDS* any of the above to live ... but it sure as hell makes life more enjoyable and easier. Being able to glance at a text message without pulling my phone out alone makes life easier.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

So in those cases you pull out your phone. That's the point. You probably will be in those cases all the time. So you'll just end up pulling out the iPhone instead.

My qualm is the same as it was during the unveiling last fall. It's extremely limiting and consumers will see that.

My issue is that I keep hearing about how you can put music on your watch and ditch your iPhone at home. So that's technically true but it also means it could lead to potential danger.

Nope. You got it all wrong.

When I run my phone it's in my pocket from the second I start to the second I stop. If I get a text while I'm running. It has to wait. A call. Same. No opportunity to stop and pull out my phone. But with the Watch I at least have the opportunity to see who is texting or calling. Maybe its something important.

So I really do think you can't see the woods for the trees here. The potential for the Watch is immense... as rich as it was for the iPhone once it was opened to devs. Again, Apple has never sold the Watch as a stand-alone device. It works in conjunction with an iPhone.

 

[Armen]

Get a text message on your Apple Watch that you want to reply to via typing without using your iPhone? Can't. Ditto with emails.

Can't make phone calls. What happens if you go for a run and have an emergency but don't have your phone with you?

Ultimately I don't see this product answering the 'why' question for consumers that was very obvious with both the iPhone and iPad. I predict lukewarm sales. And yes, I know people doubted the iPhone and iPad too. I don't think that's reason to not doubt the Apple Watch.

Why?

Messages:

I get messages from my wife all the time during the day. Some of them prompt a yes/no/dont know response. These are quick taps from the watch versus taking my phone out, unlocking it, bringing up the message and typing yes/no/dont know.

Apple even mentioned that the watch can analyze the messages you receive and generate smart replies on it's own.

e.g. "Do you want pizza or burgers?" - > watch generates "pizza" "burgers" "not sure" as smart replies to that text.

Emails:

I like to glance at every e-mail that comes in. If it's important and I need to respond only then would I take my phone out of my pocket.

Remote Camera:

Forget the selfie stick. Prop your phone up and use your watch as a remote view finder and pic snapper.

The list goes on and on.

 

[MacDevil7334]

If these things irritate you, I'd hate to see something that actually matters bother you. I imagine it's a total system shutdown on your end when presented with a serious situation.

If someone using their iPad as a camera bugs you, you've got much bigger personal issues.

Geez...I'm not sure why you felt it necessary to launch into a baseless personal attack just because I expressed an opinion that differs from yours. Though, I guess the attitude of "if you don't like something I'm doing, it must be a sign of something wrong with you rather than a reflection on how I am behaving" is becoming more and more common these days.

I have noticed that many people who use their iPad as a camera do so at crowded public events where the iPad blocks my view since it is essentially being held up in my face as well. I find this to be both inconsiderate and irritating. Likewise, I don't particularly want to listen to you dictate an email or have a speakerphone conversation on your watch when I'm sitting next to you on the bus (I'm not entirely sure why you do either). Feel free to disagree if you like, but let's refrain from speculating on the nature and size of each other's personal issues.

 

[mama2twoboys]

I'm a teacher and this will be life changing for me.

I can't carry my phone around in my classroom. Sure, it sits INSIDE my locked desk... what good is that for 88% of the day?! I miss a lot...

I have two kids in daycare, a husband, family, and friends like everyone else. I am SO EXCITED to be able to not miss an emergency for this reason... it'll be on my wrist at all times!

Won't use it much at home, maybe for exercising... but at work, game changer!

 

[blairh]

Nope. You got it all wrong.

When I run my phone it's in my pocket from the second I start to the second I stop. If I get a text while I'm running. It has to wait. A call. Same. No opportunity to stop and pull out my phone. But with the Watch I at least have the opportunity to see who is texting or calling. Maybe its something important.

So I really do think you can't see the woods for the trees here. The potential for the Watch is immense... as rich as it was for the iPhone once it was opened to devs. Again, Apple has never sold the Watch as a stand-alone device. It works in conjunction with an iPhone.

I'm not implying that it's useless. What I'm saying is that it leaves a great deal to be desired. Hence my OP.

 

[blairh]

Why?

Messages:

I get messages from my wife all the time during the day. Some of them prompt a yes/no/dont know response. These are quick taps from the watch versus taking my phone out, unlocking it, bringing up the message and typing yes/no/dont know.

Apple even mentioned that the watch can analyze the messages you receive and generate smart replies on it's own.

e.g. "Do you want pizza or burgers?" - > watch generates "pizza" "burgers" "not sure" as smart replies to that text.

Emails:

I like to glance at every e-mail that comes in. If it's important and I need to respond only then would I take my phone out of my pocket.

Remote Camera:

Forget the selfie stick. Prop your phone up and use your watch as a remote view finder and pic snapper.

The list goes on and on.

The list doesn't really go on that much. What you are mentioning with respect to messages and emails are probably the more important and desired functions.

However, I still contend that most of us send text messages that need more than simple replies. So yeah, when your wife asks a simple question you are all set. But when you need to reply to something other than a simple question you'll either have to dictate your response or take your phone out. The point is it leaves a lot to be desired.

For email scanning it's useful but again, when it's time to reply, back to your iPhone. I also question people saying I get tons of emails all day and I can use the Watch. That screen is pretty small and having to scan a ton of emails daily on it doesn't sound so great.

 

[douglasf13]

The list doesn't really go on that much. What you are mentioning with respect to messages and emails are probably the more important and desired functions.

However, I still contend that most of us send text messages that need more than simple replies. So yeah, when your wife asks a simple question you are all set. But when you need to reply to something other than a simple question you'll either have to dictate your response or take your phone out. The point is it leaves a lot to be desired.

For email scanning it's useful but again, when it's time to reply, back to your iPhone. I also question people saying I get tons of emails all day and I can use the Watch. That screen is pretty small and having to scan a ton of emails daily on it doesn't sound so great.

Having used a Pebble, I can attest to just seeing notifications is very convenient. Being able to respond to texts and calls is icing on the cake.