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I dont want to pay for The Daily?

marine0816 said:
It's own by Rupert murdoch the same guy who owns fox news and has all the republican canidates on their pay roll. Faux news
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"Owned by Rupert Murdoch" does not equal Fox News propaganda. Fox News is one channel in his gigantic media empire. Have you ever seen a local Fox affiliate's nightly news? Almost always populated with typical, sincere, garden variety journalists, many of whom are liberal as your average Whole Foods clientele. Even FoxNews.com is shockingly not insane compared to its cable television counterpart. But to know that, you'd have to actually read it, not just pretend you know everything because it shares an owner with the ****tard channel.

Plus, by your logic, "Fox News propaganda" also includes GQ, Vogue, Myspace, and the Simpsons.
 
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DiamondMac said:
Judging by your sig, I think anyone can understand why you hate those sources and it has little to do with them being crap. More like crapping on your specific views?
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No no, HuffPo is by and large a poorly managed pile of touchy feely crap, and I say that as a diehard progressive, and a trained journalist. They have a few excellent contributors, but they're really, really bad at filtering out the chaff. Give me the NYT any day, even if they kill themselves with this beyond stupid pay system.
 
Meyvn said:
No no, HuffPo is by and large a poorly managed pile of touchy feely crap, and I say that as a diehard progressive, and a trained journalist. They have a few excellent contributors, but they're really, really bad at filtering out the chaff. Give me the NYT any day, even if they kill themselves with this beyond stupid pay system.
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I agree with you on HuffPo and the like, but I'm surprised at your defense of The Daily. Have you read it? It's pretty noxious crap in that thing. I imagine Fox News to be a dumbed down version of The Daily, except I don't watch Fox News so it may actually be a lot worse.

My sample size is two random substantive articles in one issue of The Daily. But it was enough to make me bang my head on the desk. And I'm former subscriber of WSJ, and current subscriber of The Economist.
 
The Daily has some BIG negatives to me. WAY too much fluff, overdoes of gossup garbage and just plan strange articles. Sports is fine (though too muh space devoted to it) but were is the financial section?
 
Penooker said:
I agree with you on HuffPo and the like, but I'm surprised at your defense of The Daily. Have you read it? It's pretty noxious crap in that thing. I imagine Fox News to be a dumbed down version of The Daily, except I don't watch Fox News so it may actually be a lot worse.

My sample size is two random substantive articles in one issue of The Daily. But it was enough to make me bang my head on the desk. And I'm former subscriber of WSJ, and current subscriber of The Economist.
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My sample size wasn't much bigger, and I didn't run into anything approaching the level of insanity at Fox News.

However, their content could, for all I know, be fairly biased; I was mainly pointing out the ridiculous flawed logic that ownership of Fox News immediately condemns everything else one owns. I do think it is objectionable that Rupert Murdoch, an at least sometimes reasonable human being, allows Fox News to continue in the direction it does, but that's a different discussion. The man is in it for profit, not for conservative bias for its own sake. Which is the same reason he funds shows by very, very liberal people like Seth McFarlane.
 
People don't want to subscribe to everything. YouTube.com gives more info than a stupid iPad daily subscription and it's more entertaining and better yet is free. So why would I pay for a weekly subscription? And don't give me the "I can't afford it speech" cause everybody here with their expensive iPads and MacBooks aren't homeless.

It's not if we cant afford it, it's why do I need to pay when I have all these other options?
 
mcdj said:
you heard it here first...the NYT paywall will die within a year.
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It won't. It may change and get rethought, but they're at the forefront so that's expected. *Real* journalism will have to find a way to survive and in order to do so it needs to be monetized. Online ads alone can't carry it as the revenue streams from that are declining because the impressions costs are dropping.

The internet masses want news but don't want to pay for it. Those that maintain that stance will regret it when real journalism is gone. Any of the major papers have seen print revenues decline to the point where they've had to cut staff and expenses to the bone already. If they don't survive what will take their place will be opinion and article mills and mere aggregators..

While people can say use Pulse, flud, etc they're nothing without the content of others.
 
People don't want to subscribe to everything. YouTube.com gives more info than a stupid iPad daily subscription and it's more entertaining and better yet is free...
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I think YouTube is cool and all, but it "gives more info than a stupid iPad daily subscription" is a bit much, don't you think. The best nutshot of the day is hardly "news". Entertaining, but not news...
 
Julien said:
The Daily has some BIG negatives to me. WAY too much fluff, overdoes of gossup garbage and just plan strange articles. Sports is fine (though too muh space devoted to it) but were is the financial section?
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The Daily isn't a direct replacement for the Times or WSJ. It's mean to be a little more lighthearted and a little more fun. It's a good "companion" to the other options available.
 
marine0816 said:
People don't want to subscribe to everything. YouTube.com gives more info than a stupid iPad daily subscription and it's more entertaining and better yet is free. So why would I pay for a weekly subscription? And don't give me the "I can't afford it speech" cause everybody here with their expensive iPads and MacBooks aren't homeless.

It's not if we cant afford it, it's why do I need to pay when I have all these other options?
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You are wrong on so many levels. Wow.
 
TheWheelMan said:
I think YouTube is cool and all, but it "gives more info than a stupid iPad daily subscription" is a bit much, don't you think. The best nutshot of the day is hardly "news". Entertaining, but not news...
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I am still trying to figure out what in the hell that means

I mean, on just about every level, it is absurd
 
I've been reading the Daily. I think the format is great and the quality of content is okay. I have not found any of the content to be right-leaning or Fox-like yet. I probably won't purchase a year, but I'll keep feeling it out with weeky subs.
 
The daily is great and i did subscribe. If you think fox is biased then you really don't understand journalism. Their news is the most unbiased out there....of course they have right leaning special shows but how is that any different than the ones CNN has?

I see all tv news dying eventually, it's too easy to get the real, and more accurate news elsewhere on the net.

P.s......ipad2 rules. I'm going to have to buy another for my two year old who is crawling all over me as I type this.......he wants to play 'bird game' lol!
 
I am reading The Daily for free every day from Hong Kong. The app did ask me to login once. I entered a Hong Kong App Store account, and then a dialog box popped out telling me that the app is not available in Hong Kong (I used my US App Store account to download The Daily though :D). The app didn't ask me to login or pay since then and every day the newspaper is being "delivered" to me:cool:
 
If you don't want to pay for The Daily, I find that buying a new iPad 2 resets the free trial clock. :D

But seriously, I've yet to be blocked from loading a single edition. First we got a free month "sponsored by Verizon"; then that was extended twice because the iOS update allowing in-app subscriptions hadn't been released yet; then another two or three weeks "sponsored by Verizon"; then a week of daily warnings that "your trial is about to run out!", and then ... it just downloads every day anyway.

In any case, if you're both really cheap and really desperate to keep reading it (and you actually do get blocked from downloading new issues), I suspect jailbreaking and running a UDID spoofer would do the trick.
 
darngooddesign said:
Problem: You don't want to pay for The Daily.

Solution: You don't get to use The Daily.
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Yep.

I didn't even like it for free personally. Content was pretty crummy. I didn't see any "Fox news bias" that others are raising. Just mediocre writing and I didn't like the format of the app much.

Plenty of free news on the iPad anyway.

NYT top news and most e-mailed sections are still free, Washington Post, CNN, NPR, Politico, The Hill, AP News and all the aggregators like Pulse, Zite, Flipboard etc. Not to mention all the news websites you can access through Safari or other browsers. Just no reason to pay for news on the iPad IMO.
 
eaweber1 said:
Yes...Fox News has a bias to the right....

All 3 major networks have a bias to the left as well as CNN and MSNBC. I dont hear anyone dare to speak about that though...they just "report" the news...right?
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This is why I like Flipboard/Zite for news. I think because of near complete communication and aggregation that curated (and therefor slanted to the curator) news will become more irrelevant over time.
 
Leaving the continual agenda driven political posts behind...


Does anyone know of a similar FREE alternative to simply download a daily update in the morning and have all the content accessible from a non-connected device?

To me, the biggest appeal of the daily was that I can retrieve the day's "newspaper" and not need to be connected to an internet source when viewing said content.

Most solutions need an internet connection when viewing articles.
 
Pared said:
Leaving the continual agenda driven political posts behind...


Does anyone know of a similar FREE alternative to simply download a daily update in the morning and have all the content accessible from a non-connected device?

To me, the biggest appeal of the daily was that I can retrieve the day's "newspaper" and not need to be connected to an internet source when viewing said content.

Most solutions need an internet connection when viewing articles.
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I would like to hear an opinion about this too. I know instapaper does some things but I think you have to manually get the feeds. Something like the daily works best for me when on the subway or bus on my commute to work.
 
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