I dunno about y'all, but after seeing the new Pixel's display, I love the Apple Notch™ even more now

[bigjnyc]

Wrong. I hate this myth. It’s skinnned versions of Android where this myth stems from, especially Samsung’s phones. Stock adnroid is smoother than iOS these days. iOS isn’t truly smooth anymore, it hasn’t been since iOS 7. Lag in the App Store when scrolling, same in the watch app, when using the app switcher, opening folders stutters, many third party apps stutter and aren’t smooth at all. iOS used to be smooth but now stock Android has take that crown. I heard nothing but praise last year from everyone who used one saying how fluid and smooth the Pixel was. Apart from the camera it was one of its main positive talking points. I haven’t heard anyone gush over how smooth today’s iOS is like that and it’s because it just isn’t anymore. For the most part it is generally smooth, but dropped frames and micro stutters galore.

Proof? Settings > Mobile Data. Scroll down.

Wrong. Android skinned or not is a disorganized stuttering mess. I’m sure all of the “praise” you heard probably came from long time android users who came from a skinned version. The overall experience of iOS is much smoother and better integrated with the device than any android/phone combination released imo. Apps are a much better experience.... and don’t get me started on the handling of SMS, iMessage is leaps and bounds over anything google has, getting a good reliable texting app on Android is a frustrating experience to say the least. The UI is cluttered, I had to buy an app just to hide a bunch of crap that should just be in the background. I am by no means an Apple fanatic and fully believe that android hardware from galaxy’s, pixel, even LG’s offerings are much better than the iPhone features wise... but the software just ruins it completely.
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The notch is a wonderful representation of the downward spiral of human intellect and the uprise of marketing manipulation.

well said! Apple has been on this path for a few years now.... except before it was more marketing manipulation, lately the intellect has definitely taken a hit.

 

[ANTAWNM26]

It just keeps growing on me more and more. I have no doubt that eventually the Notch will become everyone's envy. It's iPhone's new signature, new unmistakable silhouette. Long live the Notch!!

You must be joking. It’s no way no matter how you go out and try find something different to appease that notch it won’t work. Basically all you had to do was go and look at every iPhone screen up till the iPhone X you did not have to go find a android phone to appease yourself. That pixel 2 screen as far as borders looks identical to the iPhone 7 period. Smh

 

[Gathomblipoob]

I’ve been trying to be optimistic about the notch as it doesn’t look too bad in the hands on videos, but lately I just don’t know...

I take a lot of Snapchat pics and save them to my camera roll, I use it more than the actual phone camera. But viewing them on the iPhone X...

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They always fill up the screen and ‘the notch’ will actually cut into and obstruct the view of my snaps. When a phones design gets in the way of viewing one of the main things you use your phone for then it is a big problem.

It will be interesting to see the aftermath of this. It will either be a complete design flaw and spell total distaster for Apple or something you just ‘get used to’. Viewing the above image though, I’m leaning more towards the former being the case. It may force Apple to remedy it in the software by adding a black bar to hide the notch which fortunately they would easily be able to do, and maybe one at the bottom for the home bar which would make it symmetrical, but this would defeat the purpose of getting rid of the bezels and having the whole edge to edge display in the first place. They may have created a solution to a problem but the solution may end up being a bigger problem than the original problem they were trying to find a solution to.

I will still be ordering one and with the 14 day return period in mind I’ll have time to found all of this out for myself with my own experience. I guess we’ll all find out what happens soon.

These are zoomed-in photo views, right? Personally, I rarely zoom in on my photos because I lose so much of the image.

 

[Superhappytree]

Wrong. Android skinned or not is a disorganized stuttering mess. I’m sure all of the “praise” you heard probably came from long time android users who came from a skinned version. The overall experience of iOS is much smoother and better integrated with the device than any android/phone combination released imo. Apps are a much better experience.... and don’t get me started on the handling of SMS, iMessage is leaps and bounds over anything google has, getting a good reliable texting app on Android is a frustrating experience to say the least. The UI is cluttered, I had to buy an app just to hide a bunch of crap that should just be in the background. I am by no means an Apple fanatic and fully believe that android hardware from galaxy’s, pixel, even LG’s offerings are much better than the iPhone features wise... but the software just ruins it completely.
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well said! Apple has been on this path for a few years now.... except before it was more marketing manipulation, lately the intellect has definitely taken a hit.

I agree and disagree with you. I agree that Android is cluttered in terms of having numerous apps for something as simple as messaging whereas Apple has it all figured out with iMessage. And the app experience for the most part is superior on iOS. I disagree with you saying it is a smoother experience though, stock Android offers a much smoother and fluid experience these days. And again, you’re more referring to LG’s and Samsung’s skinned versions of Android, that’s what bogs down their performance. I guess I’m more sensitive to lag than you so I can see the slightest jitters and stutters, but they are so obvious to me that I get frustrated when others say how smooth iOS is when I just don’t see it that way anymore. The general operation of it is, but I see micro stutters littered everywhere. Go to Settings > Mobile Data and scroll to see what I mean. That’s just one small example.
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These are zoomed-in photo views, right? Personally, I rarely zoom in on my photos because I lose so much of the image.

Snapchat or the photo I posted? On Snapchat, it fills up the screen when you take a snap, so on the X it will look just like the picture I posted from Apples website; filling up the screen and obstructing a portion of the view. That picture is most likely zoomed though but on Snapchat they always fill up the screen like that.

 

[thadoggfather]

I’m not loving the notch more, i still find it regrettable

HOWEVER

Now that pixel 2 is out, and Note 8, those are both REALLY fine handsets... though i dont like android and they are now all priced similarly to where its not just Apple that expensive— all OEM flagships pretty much are.

One Plus Five is the exception, and I always appreciate ‘budget’ priced phones at mid-range prices.

The last Android I feel competed for value, was maybe Nexus 5. But I don’t keep up with Androids much.

But apple offers different price tier iPhones too

So it lessens the blow of asking price for the X, but its also still getting up there in insane pricing $1250 after tax for a 256 X.

If anything, I wish the notch still went away. I prefer the top bezel on these Pixels especially the trimmed bezel model (plus? I think)

 

[HylianKnight]

Ne

One thing that I haven’t understood about the x is why only 600 nits? Is it to conserve battery? I don’t understand the trade off here as to why they wouldn’t try to rival Galaxy screens.

Probably because it’s not necessary. How often do you all actually have an issue seeing your screen? I have yet to run into that scenario with the exception of the sun beaming directly on it. I think it’s a smart move as it conserves battery. I don’t need my screen to function as a floodlight.

 

[Mikeeee]

It just keeps growing on me more and more. I have no doubt that eventually the Notch™ will become everyone's envy. It's iPhone's new signature, new unmistakable silhouette. Long live the Notch™!!

I've also been wondering if the notch will be so offensive in real use. All we've seen so far is the notch being shown and criticized in videos and pictures. Real life experience might give us a different perspective. Funny I didn't notice a lot of focus on the notch when critics were reviewing the phone at the demonstration centre.

 

[rodetrip]

im not going to know how to exactly feel about the notch until i have the phone in my hands. i am pretty sure that it wont be a bother much. i think the x will be a beautiful phone, i am wayy too excited!!!

 

[oplix]

hey guys, the notch is really growing on me... like an unwelcomed unibrow.

 

[mebehere]

A bezel, straight across, doesn’t mess with your eyes. Something protruding into your view of the screen is distracting, if you ask me

Bezel-less screens have nothing to do with aesthetics. It’s just retarded marketing. I reckon people want the smallest phone they can get that has a big screen. That makes more sense than no bezels.

“It looks outdated with the bezels.” Only bandwagoner idiots say this.

 

[sniffies]

iNotch is not going anywhere, not for the next 2-3 years

 

[deany]

iNotch is not going anywhere, not for the next 2-3 years

• 100% front and edge screen is next- 2 years
• Then 100% screen front side and back- 5 years
• Then as two above but foldable with large display keyboard, hinged in the middle, this sort of idea http://www.planetcom.co.uk/ but not a physical keyboard - 8 to 10 years.

Lets not forget Musk is sending man to Mars and back within 8 years so smartphones should be amazing http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1C40MF

 

[44267547]

I've also been wondering if the notch will be so offensive in real use. All we've seen so far is the notch being shown and criticized in videos and pictures. Real life experience might give us a different perspective. Funny I didn't notice a lot of focus on the notch when critics were reviewing the phone at the demonstration centre.

I like your view here. I think on a tech site, enthusiasts tend to be more critical over hardware and software implementation. But in the real world, the average consumer will likely look at the notch and then make a simple decision if it fits their narrative or not.

Or, they simply just purchase the latest iPhone regardless of the notch, because that's just what they want. Most average consumers don't care about specifications or every little hardware feature that a smart phone has. Not to mention, half of the features an iPhone has, they don't even likely utilize.

 

[pat500000]

I like your view here. I think on a tech site, enthusiasts tend to be more critical over hardware and software implementation. But in the real world, the average consumer will likely look at the notch and then make a simple decision if it fits their narrative or not.

Or, they simply just purchase the latest iPhone regardless of the notch, because that's just what they want. Most average consumers don't care about specifications or every little hardware feature that a smart phone has. Not to mention, half of the features an iPhone has, they don't even likely utilize.

Like you always say, people can always return it within specific days, which should give them fair amount time to check it out.

 

[KRG]

The notch is a wonderful representation of the downward spiral of human intellect and the uprise of marketing manipulation.

Are you suggesting you have a better solution; Apple engineers were too dumb to consider it, and instead must rely on marketing and the ignorance of the masses to sell this phone? Some of you are so over the top.

This is as close to bezel free as we can get at the moment. Apple clearly decided a straight, solid bezel at the top (physical or software) with no bottom bezel would not look good, and this is the alternative route they took. They're not forcing anyone to buy this phone. If you don't like it, keep your 8+ and its notch free, massive bezels or buy a competing phone that you think has a better design.

When given the option of larger bezels (like every competitor) or this notch, I prefer the notch. There's no need to insult peoples' intelligence when they simply have differing tastes. THAT demonstrates the downward spiral of human intellect.

 

[woodekm]

Hey. There are still fans of the AMC Gremlin. Not many, but still some fans!

 

[Bane-Thunder]

The notch itself isnt the issue, the execution is simply dumb as hell. They could easily make the whole area black and have the signal bars etc appear in white instead to make it „even“

Clearly you know nothing about making a signature design. Which is why you aint a designer at Apple one of the most successful companies of all time.
[doublepost=1507218819][/doublepost]The iPhone X makes the Pixel 2 look ancient as hell. Wasted bezel on front facing speakers who are those really for? Most people on commutes use headphones, who is blaring music from their phone directly?? lool poor design.

 

[Racineur]

This debate takes me back to the Mac OS and OS X debate in the time of the transition. The debate was closed when Mac OS was called Classic (like old Coke) and the future would be OS X. What if we called design à la iPhone 6-7-8 and Pixel 2 "Classic" ? In that scheme of thinking, I like the Classic design but will go for the X design in due time.

 

[sniffies]

Stop thinking of notch as bezel, and it shall stop harassing your tiny imagination

 

[MEJHarrison]

I'm no fan of the notch. I wish it the screen went all the way to the top. That said, I'm totally getting an X. If I can't adjust to it within the return window, it will be exchanged for an 8+. But I genuinely believe that notch or no notch, I'm going to love it. I don't suspect I'll have any issues whatsoever adapting within minutes / hours. For a bonus shocker, I also realize I'll be loosing screen space coming from a Plus phone, and I'm fine with that too!

I'm trying to concentrate on what I'll be gaining in a new phone rather than what I'll be loosing. Coming from a 6Plus, I have a LOT to love regardless of the notch.

 

[borntrouble]

It just keeps growing on me more and more. I have no doubt that eventually the Notch™ will become everyone's envy. It's iPhone's new signature, new unmistakable silhouette. Long live the Notch™!!

You are trolling, arent you

 

[Delorean2006]

the notch may be unbearable for some, but, I was just at an apple store and there were a lot of people asking for the release date and when they can pick up an iphone x, I think the notch will appeal and possibly grow on a lot of people.

 

[nilk]

The notch as a hardware characteristic is fine, it's the software and Apple's approach to handling the notch that seems wrong (at least in the case of full screen views). I hope they have the courage to backtrack on this in iOS 12.

I'm hoping for a smaller X-style phone that doesn't have a notch at all (due to space constraints). I'd line up with my $1429 or whatever it cost to buy something like that. Sadly, Apple will probably make an even bigger X-style phone before they do a smaller phone, but I'm hoping. If a good small phone doesn't materialize, I'll probably end up getting an X in the next couple of years.

 

[Damon2]

The notch does not bother me.

I have bigger issues with the X e.g. the price.

 

[Packers1958]

The notch is dumb, just plain dum and there is no reason for it, which makes it even more dumb.