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See https://www.apple.com/icloud/find-my-iphone.html

It's a little nuanced, but the whole gist is to help your phone get back to you if you lose it and a non-thief finds it. Nothing there about locating the phone once it falls into "the wrong hands", just preventing access to your personal data. Then as a last resort making it useless as a phone via Activation Lock.

Something else to consider:
Say Apple did advertise Find My iPhone as a means to find your phone after it was stolen. Someone then locates their stolen phone, naively goes to the house/apartment and finds themselves on the wrong end of a gun / knife / baseball bat. Guess who's getting sued...

It would be nice if they allowed preventing power-off, but then any phone thief with half a brain will carry a paperclip and pop the SIM out in two seconds. (Might increase sales of those metal-frame bumpers though?)

Every time I mention "what are they going to do with a locked phone?" people always say, "they can reprogram it" or "they'll sell it for parts" Apple has not even addressed that perception.

But no one really seems to know for sure.

As long as the perception exists that a stolen phone is a good phone, then people will continue to steal them.

Now I know that you can't trust Find My iPhone to save you when your phone gets stolen. So I wouldn't recommend it. There's other apps that carriers use that may be better, or even a jailbroken apps would do more good.
 
Yesterday, I was at the mall with a buddy, when he lost his iPhone 5. We're not really sure at point he lost it, but we suspect it was either in the food court or when he was trying on some clothes.

Either way, we were walking past the Apple store and stopped in, and that's when he realized his phone was missing. We asked one of the Apple employees if we could use one of their iPads to use "Find my iPhone" and wouldn't you know it, his iPhone was still in the mall, but on the other side (where the food court is). The employee alerted security and together, with the borrowed iPad (thanks Kevin!) we made our way to the other side of the mall, and he sent the alert, and we found the person.

The guy claims he bought it off a friend yesterday, but whatever, the phone was returned, and the guy was issued a "no trespassing" by security.

All-in-all, I would say to successfully recover your phone using Find my Phone, you need to:

1) Make sure it's enabled, with password lock on your phone.

2) Make sure you attempt to locate your phone as soon as possible. Had this gentleman left the mall, while we would have still been able to track it, we doubt the police would have done anything.
 
and (3) be lucky enough to have your phone picked up by someone that doesn't know to yank the SIM and/or turn it off immediately.
 
oh ya apple can if you answer all the security questions

Seriously? I thought that was impossible since iOS 7 because of activation lock? Don't they need the Apple ID and password?

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I wish apple would require TouchID or a password as an option to manually power off an iDevice. This would drastically aid in locating lost/stolen iDevices, at least until the battery dies.

That's a very good idea? Is there a way to submit such an idea to Apple? I think they should take notice of this idea. It would be of tremendous use for the iPhone 6 Plus because of its amazing battery life. It would definitely aid in the recovery of the missing iPhone.

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I think the Find my phone feature is more for lost phones and that added security to lock the lost device not to go hunting down theives, that could get dangerous

I wouldn't recommend anyone to take matters into their hands, but this could be useful for the police.

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Depends on if you allowed the phone to access the Control Center without being unlocked..

Can this be disabled?

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Or drop it in a glass of water and get themselves a new one for the out of warranty replacement price.

And what's the price going to be? I don't understand why a thief would want to pay for an out of warranty replacement device. It's going to cost him money to buy another device.
 
and (3) be lucky enough to have your phone picked up by someone that doesn't know to yank the SIM and/or turn it off immediately.

One thing that I like about Apple's devices and I'm not sure if anyone else have done this before Apple introduced the iPhone is that you need an ejection tool to remove the sim card. Of course it's common now to require an ejection tool to remove a sim card, but it wasn't like that before the iPhone, at least I'm not aware of a phone that's like that. In the past, all you have to do is remove the battery cover, the battery, and you'll have access to the sim card. How often does someone carry an ejection tool with them to remove a sim card?
 
How often does someone carry an ejection tool with them to remove a sim card?

SIM ejection tools are around fifty cents for a box of a hundred at any Office Depot or similar... :)

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/966945/OIC-No-1-Paper-Clips-Standard/
9326396-420


So yes, that'd perhaps encumber the opportunistic thief that wasn't otherwise planning to grab a phone, but any that was "on the prowl" could very easily have a paperclip. (though that's moot anyway once they powered down the phone, which at present isn't locked out on non-JB devices)
 
One thing that I like about Apple's devices and I'm not sure if anyone else have done this before Apple introduced the iPhone is that you need an ejection tool to remove the sim card. Of course it's common now to require an ejection tool to remove a sim card, but it wasn't like that before the iPhone, at least I'm not aware of a phone that's like that. In the past, all you have to do is remove the battery cover, the battery, and you'll have access to the sim card. How often does someone carry an ejection tool with them to remove a sim card?


Let me see, needles, paper clips, pencil lead etc can do the same thing.
 
One thing that I like about Apple's devices and I'm not sure if anyone else have done this before Apple introduced the iPhone is that you need an ejection tool to remove the sim card. Of course it's common now to require an ejection tool to remove a sim card, but it wasn't like that before the iPhone, at least I'm not aware of a phone that's like that. In the past, all you have to do is remove the battery cover, the battery, and you'll have access to the sim card. How often does someone carry an ejection tool with them to remove a sim card?

Yeah it's on a par with fort Knox! :D :p
 
And what's the price going to be? I don't understand why a thief would want to pay for an out of warranty replacement device. It's going to cost him money to buy another device.

It's about the same as the subsidized price, but you can do that and then resell it for close to the unsubsidized price.
 
Every time I mention "what are they going to do with a locked phone?" people always say, "they can reprogram it" or "they'll sell it for parts" Apple has not even addressed that perception.

But no one really seems to know for sure.

As long as the perception exists that a stolen phone is a good phone, then people will continue to steal them.

Now I know that you can't trust Find My iPhone to save you when your phone gets stolen. So I wouldn't recommend it. There's other apps that carriers use that may be better, or even a jailbroken apps would do more good.

Once you put it into Lost / Stolen mode and wipe the iPhone, it is 100% useless, the reason people still steal is because the time to educate the world, is far greater than for the world to learn about "iPhone".

No matter if they jailbreak it, no matter if they DFU mode it, no matter if they recover mode it. There is absolutely no way for a thief to use your iPhone.

Only thing good they can get:
- Parts = Screen (if good), Battery, SIM tray, Power button, Camera?

Logic/motherboard = 100% Useless. They can't even go into a Apple Store and get a replacement like they used to before iCloud was introduced. Now Apple requires that the device be removed from the iCloud account by going to icloud.com, signing in with the icloud account that the device is associated with and removing it, otherwise they will not issue a replacement no matter how sorry your story is. So never remove this iPhone from your iCloud account, otherwise person can use it outside of USA if they can get it IMEI unlocked.

Lastly, Find my iPhone is only useable to a certain extent because there are these issues (perhaps its not Apple to blame as there are laws, carrier's and many other walls that they need to get through before these can be overcome -- from our point of view it may seem simple, but implementing it is another worlds work):

1) Battery life and device must remain powered ON
2) There is data connection available (Cellular/WiFi):
-- With Data there are two things that go wrong though:
-----1) Thief removes the SIM
-----2) Owner disables the SIM by calling carrier

3) Are you really going to be able to locate a phone (not just iPhone) in a apartment building? chances are like 0.01%



Only way around to getting a feature like Find my iPhone to be useful in case a device is stolen would require the following:

1) Some sort of backup battery that keeps the GPS antenna alive
2) Some sort of backup data service that can transmit the devices location back to owner (Something like 911 service but in the form of Data, which allows a device to access such service even without a SIM) -- Its up to the carrier's to implement something like this, Apple SIM in a way is one step closer, if it could be built into the device rather than being ejectable. However I think companies rely much on insurance to pick up the bill instead.
3) law enforcement committed to providing assistance (this is probably one of the even bigger hurdles to overcome than the first 2)



I'm sorry your lost your iPhone, I can understand for some it can be devastating loss because of the value a device like an iPhone holds for one.

I think in the next 5-10 years we would see some things like what I mentioned above to help better locate lost/stolen devices because the electronic waste is about to go sky rocketing with all these disabled iPhones.

I would highly recommend those that are responsible enough to enable two step verification, its a whole new world of security, the security questions / answers no longer relevant.

What you need each time is 2 of the following: 1) Authorized Device and Password even to log into iCloud.com to check email or photos or other documents such as pages, numbers etc.

To reset password: 1) Authorized Device in hand and you need to be able to access this device via passcode or touch ID 2) Recovery Key --- Without the minimum 2 pieces you or anyone else cannot get into your Account and Apple cannot help you because you won't be able to call in to get your password reset
 
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I would've at least been glad to know that it was wiped but I guess it never was. Well, actually, maybe it was.


What I think happened was that the thief tried to do a restore on iTunes and now they can not do anything. Not even connect to Wi-Fi.

OR

They could just be listening to my music, which I hate the idea of.
 
I would've at least been glad to know that it was wiped but I guess it never was. Well, actually, maybe it was.


What I think happened was that the thief tried to do a restore on iTunes and now they can not do anything. Not even connect to Wi-Fi.

OR

They could just be listening to my music, which I hate the idea of.

If you set it to remote wipe then it will wipe the next time it is connected to iTunes or WiFi (Most people haven't caught up with times yet about iCloud lock and how it works so first thing they will try is to restore via iTunes and bam they get what they deserve -- a device they can't use)
 
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