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So as a watch you 'absolutely loveeeeed' it compared to your Timex and the fact that you consistently get at least 40% left means that battery life won't be a concern for you...which is a good thing right...?

Ah well guess it's just not for you. :(
So, I returned my second watch (a SS milanese, upgraded from a black Sport) and won't be getting another for now. Two reasons:

- I consistently had over 40% battery life at the end of the day (indicative of barely using it during the day). Obviously, this is just me, and I know others have different use cases. I have a very active, but ultimately office-based job.
- The number of interactions to accomplish basic things was pretty frustrating (click click click to get to Passbook). I often found reaching for my iPhone was much easier.

That said, I absolutely loveeeeed the watch overall, and my Timex just doesn't feel as good on my arm. Navigation was great, and I really like using it to board aircraft etc.

Semi-regretting it now of course. :) Perhaps 2nd gen?

PS. My son (5yo) took completely naturally to speak to his family through my wrist. Kids these days have no idea how futuristic things are!

Here is the thing, what was your expectations of the AW from the start? So far the people who have posted there frustrations about the AW, is either not using it right. And if that's the case they don't take the time out to learn about how to use the watch.

Or they are expecting the watch to do more than what it design for, but in your case it really doesn't make sense to me why you would return the watch in the first place.

Because the good battery life should be a + for you and most of us here. And like the other posting says Hey Siri!! Is great for opening passbook and doing others things as well.

I am on day4 with my 42mm SS, my wife is going on 2weeks with her 38mm SS AW. We just now learn about Hey Siri to open passbook from reading this thread. We tried it out and I most say this feature is awesome.

I have been loving my watch since using it for the first time on Monday. I really can't see my self being with out it now. My wife gave her lady Invicta to our 12 year old daughter. Which I was really surprised because she love that watch. Anyway in the end you say it's not for you so be it, at least you tried if u want to call it that.
 
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I'm dealing with these thoughts currently. I ordered mine (SS w Classic Buckle) and according to the original estimate I wasn't supposed to get it until July. I figured that was more than enough time to decide if I REALLY wanted it for this price, but they surprised me with a "Shipped" notice yesterday so now I'm going to get it in a few days and might as well give it a shot.

What's interesting is I have never been a watch-wearer, but now after a couple months of thinking about the Apple Watch, I started looking into mechanical watches and find that I think they're really gorgeous! So now I'm finding myself wondering if I wouldn't enjoy having a nice analog watch (with the date window because I never seem to remember what date it is) even more than a digital screen... So if the Apple Watch turns out not to be too useful for my life in this gen (look, if it was $200 I wouldn't have any second thoughts, but at $700 it really is an investment for me) I will definitely look into snagging a nice $100-$200 mechanical watch to rock out. I might do that anyway, actually. If nothing else, the Apple Watch's existence turned someone who had zero interest in watches before into someone who's kinda fetishizing them now.. haha.
 
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I think the biggest problem here is that people are expecting this watch to be some revolutionary device that will capture their attention and they'll be using it for hours. That also seems to be the cruz of the negative reviews, typically "I set it up and used it, and then didn't know what to do with it."

Uhm, it's a watch. It's not intended to be a gripping, long-duration use device. In fact, it's designed to be unobtrusive, and the intent is to make certain things more efficient and require less screen-gazing time.

And it's got some nice fitness features, too.

If I'm not staring at it constantly, then it's doing its job. And perhaps people might not relish the idea of spending $340+ on such a thing, but there are far more expensive watch out there which do a lot less.
 
I think the biggest problem here is that people are expecting this watch to be some revolutionary device that will capture their attention and they'll be using it for hours. That also seems to be the cruz of the negative reviews, typically "I set it up and used it, and then didn't know what to do with it."

Uhm, it's a watch. It's not intended to be a gripping, long-duration use device. In fact, it's designed to be unobtrusive, and the intent is to make certain things more efficient and require less screen-gazing time.

And it's got some nice fitness features, too.

If I'm not staring at it constantly, then it's doing its job. And perhaps people might not relish the idea of spending $340+ on such a thing, but there are far more expensive watch out there which do a lot less.


Yeah. The big thing here really is that people are used to buying an Apple device and sitting around tapping, scrolling, tinkering... ALL. DAY. LONG.

The Apple Watch isn't that device. It's just a companion device that's jewelry and tells time along with a host of other features that make it an amped up version of a watch.

I really enjoy mine, but at the end of the day, it's a helper, it's not meant for me to be staring at it all the time. It would suck if that was the case because the screen is small and I'd need a magnifying glass after awhile. :D
 
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It does a bad job at being a WATCH, let alone for anything else like fitness, etc. It's not on the whole time and it doesn't stay on long enough to read the time half the time.

It's an alpha/beta product at best.
 
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I don't think Gen 2 will be of much help

1. Battery life (even though mine lasts 1.5 days) is not significantly better from a gen 1 to gen 2
2. WatchOS is established. I'm not sure Apple will make such drastic changes as to fix this click,click,click navigation problem (althought its wrist up > tap crown > tap app from home page).

I don't think that Apple really intends for this to be the primary way of interacting with the watch. Complications, Notifications, and Glances are primary. Apps are not unimportant, but aren't core the way they are for the iPhone or iPad. The best apps will be the ones that are the simplest.
 
I don't think that Apple really intends for this to be the primary way of interacting with the watch. Complications, Notifications, and Glances are primary. Apps are not unimportant, but aren't core the way they are for the iPhone or iPad. The best apps will be the ones that are the simplest.

I'm in the same boat as you. The only time I even see the home page layout is to open the work out app.

I'm either looking at the watch face and complications or using glances to change my music. I really don't use apps on the watch and I'm completely content with that.

I do like Spark (email app) however because of the features it brings to the apple watch.
 
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I am just frustrated. I ordered my SG BSB on 11 Apr and it arrived on 2 Jun late afternoon but it was defective. The force touch would not work on it. Opened a trouble ticket on it on 3 Jun and after hours of troubleshooting they agreed that it was defective. She checked and the quickest that I could expect a repair would be in 2-3 weeks. I asked about the Apple stores - she checked and made an appointment at one that she said the computer showed had repair stock. Went in on 4 Jun. The checked out the watch and determined it was defective. Repair was going to take 2-3 weeks being sent out. Decided to just get a refund as order time is showing 2-3 weeks for new stock anyway and I would reset my warranty dates this way.

After I get home I call Apple up and I get the rudest rep that they have. Tells me that she can't do anything for me and that the watch isn't really necessary and if I really want one that soon go buy something else. All I asked was if there was anything they could do about speeding up delivery since I received a defective watch that wasn't my fault. She also tells me that their QC doesn't allow for defective products to be shipped.

If I had an email for someone at Apple I would give them a piece of my mind.
 
Yeah seriously, I was about to say, the screen timeout is like, 20+ seconds, and this guy has trouble deciphering the time in those 20 seconds?

It's definitely not twenty seconds. I think it actually changes depending on watch face. The motion face displays for about 5 seconds.
 
Wait...you returned the watch partly because it had good battery life? You're not supposed to sit and use the watch for hours or even minutes at a time. I use mine all throughout the day and I regularly end the day with 50+%, but maybe what you consider 'barely using it' is different than what I think.
How did you come to that conclusion. He never used the words good battery life, he specifically said the battery life at the end of the day was an indicator that he was not using it. Big diference.
 
I can see a certain amount of people returning the watch due to expectations of use/function versus price, comparing that with their iPhone, and simply concluding the value proposition is way down.

For me, my daily routine, my work type means it is a very good and genuinely useful buy. I say this as someone who was entirely sceptical of smart watches. Then I changed jobs. Knowing the time and timing activities became important so I wore a traditional watch again. No longer could I have my phone on the desk and unmuted. Phones became usable in only certain areas of the building from a security standpoint (camera concerns). I was missing important calls and notifications and, although I had a vivosmart to track activity and notify me, it was tough to read notifications with anything with more than one line of info.

With the AW it solves a lot of things and keeps me more informed without the phone being on show. Yes, I mostly use stock apps. I often check the time now. Being more mobile and commuting means weather is important as well as navigation. My calendar is busier. Activity app takes over from the fitness band. I filter which notifications to receive and can deal/ignore depending on importance.

If I worked from home or in a 'standard' office, I'd be more inclined to just use my phone. Aside from personal taste, everyone has different lifestyles so it just may not be worth the outlay or even regardless of cost.

One last thing about battery as a measure of usefulness: I use the watch a lot, in short busts and glances doing things outlined above. I've just finished a two-day test using power save overnight and I can get a genuine two days out of it with 10-15% remaining come 8pm on the second day of needs be. Typically I'd charge it but it's good to know if I forget.
 
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I don't blame you for giving up on the Apple Watch. It's just not for everyone.

My wife gave up on her Apple Watch too and decided to go with the Pebble Time. Why? Because one of her biggest functions is using the timer on her Pebble Classic. She tried to use the Apple Watch but the screen going black drove her nuts. She also liked the always on screen better.
 
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I don't blame you for giving up on the Apple Watch. It's just not for everyone.

My wife gave up on her Apple Watch too and decided to go with the Pebble Time. Why? Because one of her biggest functions is using the timer on her Pebble Classic. She tried to use the Apple Watch but the screen going black drove her nuts. She also liked the always on screen better.

Did she need to constantly stare at the timer? Those can be set as complications and a flick of the wrist or a screen tap shows the remaining time. I find it very simple.
 
I fully understand the OP. The Apple Watch has still many 1.0 issues. It's slow (with 3rd party apps), and its interface is not simple. Apple has made a lot of bad decisions here and they overcomplicated everything. Having a dedicated communications button is silly and a waste. Navigating a home screen full of icons is also not the best way to create a Watch UI..
For the people that say that it's a watch: Yes, it is, but so every other watch out there. What are the reasons to get the Apple Watch? Because it shows the time? Because it keeps you active? Everyone I talked to that is serious about his fitness, has told me that the Apple Watch is severely lacking in features and sensors to compete against a fitness band.
So, what are the reasons to get a Watch?
I only see one reason. It looks cool. Apart from that, it doesn't really do anything for us, especially for the high (unjustified) price.
 
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Well, my wife is a track coach and she needs to hit the lap timer as each kid crosses the finish line. So yeah, it has to be on. Like you, I tried to get my wife to consider simply tapping the screen or flicking her wrist but with this scenario that just doesn't work.

The Pebble has a fairly extensive collection of stopwatch apps and my wife can pick from multiple apps that she likes. For her purposes, the Pebble is a lot better.
 
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Well, my wife is a track coach and she needs to hit the lap timer as each kid crosses the finish line. So yeah, it has to be on. Like you, I tried to get my wife to consider simply tapping the screen or flicking her wrist but with this scenario that just doesn't work.

The Pebble has a fairly extensive collection of stopwatch apps and my wife can pick from multiple apps that she likes. For her purposes, the Pebble is a lot better.

That makes perfect sense.
 
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I fully understand the OP. The Apple Watch has still many 1.0 issues. It's slow (with 3rd party apps), and its interface is not simple. Apple has made a lot of bad decisions here and they overcomplicated everything. Having a dedicated communications button is silly and a waste. Navigating a home screen full of icons is also not the best way to create a Watch UI..
For the people that say that it's a watch: Yes, it is, but so every other watch out there. What are the reasons to get the Apple Watch? Because it shows the time? Because it keeps you active? Everyone I talked to that is serious about his fitness, has told me that the Apple Watch is severely lacking in features and sensors to compete against a fitness band.
So, what are the reasons to get a Watch?
I only see one reason. It looks cool. Apart from that, it doesn't really do anything for us, especially for the high (unjustified) price.

I use mine for notifications. Keeps me from having to always have my phone out. I find it highly convenient.
 
- The number of interactions to accomplish basic things was pretty frustrating (click click click to get to Passbook). I often found reaching for my iPhone was much easier.

This is absolutely true and I hope Apple plans to improve some of the Watch's basic interactions. I can't stand trying to page through glances, which is this one swipe per glance? Should use the crown.
 
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I fill the move goals by working out indoors. Half hour on the treadmill everyday, and an hour with my personal trainer twice a week. Move goal is 1,050, and I hit it everyday.

For the record, I was very lazy before I got my watch. I had the personal trainer beforehand, but I needed a physical person to motivate me. Now with the move goals and exercise goals, I'm motivated everyday to exercise. I love it.

Speak of the devil-

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Well don't I feel like a lazy ass now. My move goal is 380.
 
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