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I hate you Apple. Mavericks ruined my computer.

Jurwin said:
I could swear that all these ppl complaining about mavericks installed it on top of a year old 10.8 or older OS. How many times must we say do a clean install? Format and do a clean install and come back and tell me if it's buggy!
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Nonsense. It would be one thing if you weren't practically a newbie pretending to be an expert. As you now know, the users having the problem had already done what you belittled them for not doing. Your "advice" did not work.

Since upgrading to Mavericks, I have noticed one thing that I am sure many find annoying. The OS takes much longer to startup. Icons are slow to display even when opening a new Finder window. Everything is smooth and all. It is just slow. I have not noticed a similar slowness in productivity applications--just in the Finder. My hypothesis is that Apple made some changes in anticipation of vastly faster hardware. For those of us using older computers, the changes come at a price.
 
Jurwin said:
I could swear that all these ppl complaining about mavericks installed it on top of a year old 10.8 or older OS. How many times must we say do a clean install? Format and do a clean install and come back and tell me if it's buggy!
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It's strange ...
Apple fans laugh about Windows user who need to reinstall, reformat ...
But since Windows Vista, it's not needed to reformat once a year ...
You mean the most advanced OS of the world on standardized hardware needs a clean install every year ? :eek:
 
Jurwin said:
I could swear that all these ppl complaining about mavericks installed it on top of a year old 10.8 or older OS. How many times must we say do a clean install? Format and do a clean install and come back and tell me if it's buggy!
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Upgrading shouldn't be a buggy matter. Upgrading shouldn't require a clean install. I have a PC I upgraded from XP to 7 to 8 with no issues. OS X, regretfully, appears to be a different matter. Apple need to knuckle down on their software and fix some underlying bugs.

I don't have time to clean install every time a new OS comes out, as do a lot of people I imagine. Its a massive hassle I can do without.
 
Forget memory. Forget clean installs. The laggy cursor and lack of fan likely means that one of your temperature sensors has failed and it's quite common on 2010 MBP's.

As soon as things get slow, open Activity Monitor and check your CPU usage. I'm guessing it'll be over 100% which is caused by CPU throttling due to incorrect temp readings.

I wouldn't necessarily blame Mavericks for this, if it is a hardware fault then it'd have happened on 10.8 eventually.

If you're very lucky it may just be a stuck or broken fan which is a cheap fix.

I only assume that this is the case because this has happened to me four times, every time on a 2010 MBP (we run a family laptop repair business). Only once was it a buggered fan. Every other time it was a temp sensor which requires a pricey logic board replacement so we stripped the machines for parts.

It also might be worth popping in the installation disk and running the Apple hardware test.

Good luck and just to be sure I'd downgrade to 10.8 anyway but yeah tbh it's not looking good.
 
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Apple Simply Screwed Up

Mavericks is, in my opinion, crap. I've tried everything to get it to run right, but it won't. Gobs of people are complaining about this just like me, so it is a BIG problem.

For those who advise getting more memory, I have 16GB installed, so that's not it. For those who advise doing a clean install, I did that, so that's not it either. For those who suggest I have a hardware problem, Mavericks runs like crap on my two different MacBooks.

Someone needs to nail down this problem. Does it happen only on MacBooks? Does it happen on only certain models? WTF is going on, Apple? :mad: All I hear is silence from the Great and Powerful Apple Inc. How about admitting there is a problem, and that you're working night and day to fix it? But it's been over two months, and I still hear nothing but silence.

SCREW IT! I'm going back to Mountain Lion. MLF (Mountain Lion Forever!)


P.S. I've been working with computer hardware and software since before most of you were born. I programmed an Apple II. I built my own computer before IBM even sold a personal computer. Not only do I know what assembly language is, I know how to code in it. I know how to diagnose computer issues, both hardware and software. You might even call me an expert. LOL!!! Sooooo...
I know a software bug when I see one, and Mavericks is one big ugly bug. FIX IT APPLE, and FIX IT NOW!!!

P.P.S. I think Apple makes some of the best computers on the market. They have some of the brightest and most creative people working for them. So get cracking, Apple! You have no excuses. Perhaps you should start by admitting there is a problem and apologizing for it. A little humility goes a long way. Your customers want to love you, but you're making it rather difficult for us at the moment.
 
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Then it might be something the OP installed or his 2010MBP has hardware issues. I've installed Mavericks on two 2010 MBPs, one with 8GB the other with an SSD. Works fine for an old C2D computer.
 
This thread keeps going and going on about Mavericks and RAM and blah blah blah when it's perfect obvious OP has a hardware problem.
 
samrulestothema said:
Since updating from Mavericks,

My MBP- Mid2010 is unusable.

Cursor is so slow and laggy it makes even the most calm people go postal.

World of Warcraft? Ha, not anymore. Nice tidy 2fps.

Manages to do Safari alright, but god help me if I want to switch to Finder to CONSIDER opening another application.

I have reinstalled from fresh, twice. Doesn't help. Cursor is fine for approx 2 days.
Don;t know if this is relevant, but my computer fan hasn't come on in forever.

Does anyone know why the hell this is happening.
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I feel you man same here i paid 3000 euros for my imac to use os x and this ****** buggy mavericks ruin my computer experience

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MisterMe said:
Nonsense. It would be one thing if you weren't practically a newbie pretending to be an expert. As you now know, the users having the problem had already done what you belittled them for not doing. Your "advice" did not work.

Since upgrading to Mavericks, I have noticed one thing that I am sure many find annoying. The OS takes much longer to startup. Icons are slow to display even when opening a new Finder window. Everything is smooth and all. It is just slow. I have not noticed a similar slowness in productivity applications--just in the Finder. My hypothesis is that Apple made some changes in anticipation of vastly faster hardware. For those of us using older computers, the changes come at a price.
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I agree with clean install i have slow boot and shutdown that dissapear with upgrade apple are you joking us?We pay premium for your hardware to use os x and you resolve this countless bugs before release a new version.
 
oldhifi said:
if you install a bunch of junk applications, then that is what you get, a computer that does not work properly..

Apple/Mac is superior to any OS..
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yeah dream on windows 8.1 is far more stable and fast than mavericks i have every bug that you can imagine and i havent install more than 8 applications.
 
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saturnotaku said:
Baloney. Apple sells MacBook Pro and Air models with iGPUs, 4 GB of RAM, and Mavericks. It's not a lack of RAM that's causing the OP's problems.
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It is if he has a lot of apps that run on start up. They need RAM and the GPU lowers that 4Gb down to 3.9-3Gb. 4Gb of RAM is not enough for even the average user anymore.
 
MartinAppleGuy said:
It is if he has a lot of apps that run on start up. They need RAM and the GPU lowers that 4Gb down to 3.9-3Gb. 4Gb of RAM is not enough for even the average user anymore.
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More unadulterated hogwash. My 2007 MBP could surf, word process, and watch videos (what is easily considered "average use") just fine on 2 GB of RAM. My dad's 4-year-old Core2 Duo notebook with 2 GB of RAM could do this and is still even more capable since I upgraded to 4 GB.
 
saturnotaku said:
More unadulterated hogwash. My 2007 MBP could surf, word process, and watch videos (what is easily considered "average use") just fine on 2 GB of RAM. My dad's 4-year-old Core2 Duo notebook with 2 GB of RAM could do this and is still even more capable since I upgraded to 4 GB.
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Then you and I use are Mac's in very different ways my friend.
 
wtsitmn said:
Mavericks is, in my opinion, crap.
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Thank goodness you have a right to your opinion. ;)

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wtsitmn said:
BUT A WHOLE LOT OF US DO, and THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM!!!!
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I'm sure people can hear you just fine using lowercase lettering. :rolleyes:

That whole lot of "us" is just repeated miserable vocalists on MR and possibly a few other forums for people to cry. It doesn't represent hardly 1/10th of a percent of Apple's customer base. This may come as a surprise but others that don't come here bashing doesn't mean that they only use their Macs for basic web surfing. There are many that have complex setups and have minimal to no issues. You're trying to make it sound like it's widespread and it's really not.

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faneos said:
yeah dream on windows 8.1 is far more stable and fast than mavericks i have every bug that you can imagine and i havent install more than 8 applications.
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LMAO, you need to dream on. Windows 8 and their service pack 8.1 is still the most moronic OS Microsoft has ever put out. The Xbone is getting so much flack over it as well. Poor design, complicated and inane layout and just plain ridiculous overall experience to the end user. And before you ask me....Yes, I've not only tried it but I have family members I have to constantly keep educating on W8.1 which they hate because they were stuck with it upon buying a cheap PC....as usual.
 
HenryDJP said:
Thank goodness you have a right to your opinion. ;)

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I'm sure people can hear you just fine using lowercase lettering. :rolleyes:

That whole lot of "us" is just repeated miserable vocalists on MR and possibly a few other forums for people to cry. It doesn't represent hardly 1/10th of a percent of Apple's customer base. This may come as a surprise but others that don't come here bashing doesn't mean that they only use their Macs for basic web surfing. There are many that have complex setups and have minimal to no issues. You're trying to make it sound like it's widespread and it's really not.

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LMAO, you need to dream on. Windows 8 and their service pack 8.1 is still the most moronic OS Microsoft has ever put out. The Xbone is getting so much flack over it as well. Poor design, complicated and inane layout and just plain ridiculous overall experience to the end user. And before you ask me....Yes, I've not only tried it but I have family members I have to constantly keep educating on W8.1 which they hate because they were stuck with it upon buying a cheap PC....as usual.
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I dont care about design i need an os to be fast and stable bugs free.In mavericks i even cant see a youtube video
 
faneos said:
I dont care about design i need an os to be fast and stable bugs free.In mavericks i even cant see a youtube video
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Uh design of the OS is very important. If the design is not intuitive (which Windows 8 is not) it ruins productivity. You can't play a YouTube video? That's your problem and it's something you've done to create that. I have 4 Macs with Mavericks and all of them can play YouTube videos just fine.
 
HenryDJP said:
Uh design of the OS is very important. If the design is not intuitive (which Windows 8 is not) it ruins productivity. You can't play a YouTube video? That's your problem and it's something you've done to create that. I have 4 Macs with Mavericks and all of them can play YouTube videos just fine.
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What productivity with mavericks the os is crap full of bugs
 
HenryDJP said:
Uh design of the OS is very important. If the design is not intuitive (which Windows 8 is not) it ruins productivity. You can't play a YouTube video? That's your problem and it's something you've done to create that. I have 4 Macs with Mavericks and all of them can play YouTube videos just fine.
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I have problem with sound and with html5 player on seeking not working with chrome everything is fine but i didn't pay mac hardware to run windows or chrome right?
 
chevalier433 said:
What productivity with mavericks the os is crap full of bugs
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Oh it is not crap, just stop.

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faneos said:
I have problem with sound and with html5 player on seeking not working with chrome everything is fine but i didn't pay mac hardware to run windows or chrome right?
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Is there something wrong with running your YouTube videos using Safari or Firefox? I never experience sound or playback issues with those browsers. I don't care to use Chrome, and Chrome is not the default browser or the preinstalled browser on a Mac either. I have no idea why you even mentioned Windows.
 
oldhifi said:
if you install a bunch of junk applications, then that is what you get, a computer that does not work properly..

Apple/Mac is superior to any OS..
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Riiiight, because it couldn't be that OSX Mavericks has bugs. It must be the junk apps installed that are causing it. Forget the fact that Apple just released 10.9.1 which actually fixes bugs. :rolleyes:
 
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