I know I'm in the minority but...

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by gtgrad95, Apr 28, 2015.

  1. gtgrad95, Apr 28, 2015
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    gtgrad95 macrumors 6502

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    After several weeks of pondering and being on the fence, I have decided that I will not be getting an Apple Watch version 1. Let me preface by saying that I'm a huge Apple fan and have nothing but Apple products in my home: 3 Apple TVs, 3 Macbook Pros, 1 Macbook Air, 1 iMac, 3 iPads, 4 iPhones, and an Airport Extreme.

    Honestly I am shocked at the number of people forking out good money for the first version of the watch that is, for all intents and purposes, flawed and not ready for primetime yet. Here's how I arrived at my decision:

    1) The Watch is dependent on the iPhone - this is a deal breaker for me. This should really be a standalone product. Marrying it to an iPhone pretty much narrows the consumer market to only iPhone owners. It seems strange that Apple would restrict their market like this. Before you say that Android users won't be interested anyway, let me remind you that Android does control the market share in smartphones. That is a huge consumer base that Apple is ignoring. And, I know several people who have Android phones, but own an iPad. So for them to buy a Watch that is a standalone device is not out of the realm of possibility.

    2) Many reviews have pointed out the lag time in loading maps or other data as well as just bringing up the watch face when turning your wrist. That is unacceptable to me. Seems like Apple has a ways to go as far as performance. The S2 version next year might help in this area.

    3) Lack of integrated GPS. This is puzzling considering that other watches such as Garmins already have this.

    4) Lack of purpose - Everything that can be done on the watch, can be done better with the iPhone. Does not having to pull your phone out to read an iMessage justify the cost? I would say no. Besides being able to measure your heartbeat, I don't see a whole lot of value in this device. Fitbits can tell you to stand up and move around and track your steps and calories at a fraction of the cost.

    5) 2nd generation Apple products tend to be much better than the original. Look at the iPad 2 and iPhone 3G as examples. They were both significant upgrades, both in form factor and functionality.

    6) Battery life - the book is still out on how much battery life is used, especially as more and more native apps are developed. Not to mention the drain on the battery of the iPhone itself.

    The watch really doesn't buy you much considering the premium you pay for it and the fact that it will be obsolete in only a year. Remember that the watch was announced in Sept., so the hardware is already at least 7 months old before it even hits your wrist. It really comes down to being a novelty item that is basically an iPhone accessory. I am really curious to see what the return rate is once the return windows start to expire. It's a nice gadget to have and play with for a couple hours, but is it life changing in its current version? I am skeptical about that.
     
  2. greytmom macrumors 68040

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    Okey doke. I didn't read your whole post, so I'm assuming you are just giving your reasons and not passing judgment on those who have arrived at a different decision.

    Be well!
     
  3. RRuxin macrumors newbie

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    Can't really argue with your points. I've been on the fence as well but decided to at least give it a shot and see if I like it or not.
     
  4. viperGTS, Apr 28, 2015
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    You're calling the watch flawed when you haven't even used it?

    Next. :rolleyes:

    You seem pretty ignorant on some of those points that bother you. For example, 2). Did you know the lag is because the watch has to receive all the data from the iPhone? It's not the result of a slow processor and I'm sure in future versions that more and more data will be locally processed on the watch.

    1) THIS IS THE POINT OF APPLE WATCH. If you don't understand that, then this product is not for you.

    4) Remember when people said the EXACT SAME THING about the iPad? The watch is not meant to replace your phone. It's meant to be an accessory for it. And since you haven't even used it, you don't know the added convenience it brings of being able to leave your iPhone in your pocket, or even in another area in your house.

    5) the 3GS is not a second gen Apple product. It's a 3rd. And the iPad 2 was faster, but really only brought new functionality in its camera's. Flawed comparison.

    6) it has been suggested that the Watch improves iPhone battery life, due to being able to offset some functions to the Watch. Not sure why you think it reduces it.

    This device won't be outdated in a year because it'll be doing the exact same, if not more, things it did when I first got it. And I'm perfectly happy with what it's capable of doing right now.
     
  5. mojolicious macrumors 68000

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    You're not in the minority, unless Apple are sitting on a couple of hundred million Watch orders.
     
  6. Scott-n-Houston macrumors 6502a

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    TL;DR - Don't own it. Using others' viewpoints who don't like it, to support the fact that I can't really afford it
     
  7. mojolicious macrumors 68000

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    Non purchasers are obviously paupers. Of course.
     
  8. gtgrad95 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Not passing judgement. Everyone's financial situation is different. I only pointed out for the money that you are paying for this device, the return on investment is small.
     
  9. Runt888 macrumors 6502a

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    You own 4 iPhones, so why would Apple restricting their market to iPhone owners matter to you at all? I could see if your argument was that you don't want to carry your phone with you, but instead you care about being limited to a market that you are part of.

    This is the big one - if you can't answer this then you definitely shouldn't buy one.

    So far I've been very happy with the battery life - easily lasting all day despite me playing with it all the time.
     
  10. Armen macrumors 604

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    1. No watch has enough juice nor real estate to contain all the modules we expect from a smartphone so to ask for a stand alone watch that does it all is out of the question.

    2. Software update, problem fixed.

    3. Why is this puzzling when only a few dedicated watches have GPS built in? The Garmin is like $400.00 isnt it and it only does a few things?

    4. For $350.00 (Apple Watch Sport) you are getting a Fitbit Surge ($250.00), a iPod nano ($129)and a Bluetooth hands free device ($25-100). Do the math again.

    5. Maybe, maybe not. The 2nd gen may look exactly the same but have internal upgrades.

    6. Tell me you didn't base the battery drain on the iphone from 1 post someone posted a day ago. My phone's battery shows no change at all with the Apple watch connected.

    Obsolete in a year is your opinion. If Apple added a blood pressure and blood sugar sensor along with a camera and GPS module in gen 2 that doesn't make gen 1 obsolete at all. Faster? thinner? lighter? Meh.
     
  11. Scott-n-Houston macrumors 6502a

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    LOL. Of course, but based on what he posted it, how is what I wrote inaccurate? /rhetorical… don't really need a response.
     
  12. SixtyK macrumors 6502a

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    Just to keep the topic going, here is a list of things I will not be buying.

    1. A Wii U
    2. A 2015 Nissan Cube
    3. A llama
    4. Shares in Etsy stock
    5. Recalled Blue Bell ice cream
    6. My cousin Eugene's "priceless" peeled scabs
    7. A jar of bees.
    8. Any musical recording that involves Nicki Minaj
    9. The remains of the Elephant Man
    10. An Watch Edition
    11. Howard Hughes' toenail clippings
    12. The Mona Lisa
    13. Ink cartridges for an HP Photosmart 6525
    14. Axe body spray
    15. Human feces
    16. Animal feces

    I could keep going but you get the idea...
     
  13. flur macrumors 68000

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    The return on investment TO YOU is small. You don't get to say what the value is to someone else, who may have totally different needs/wants than you.

    It's totally cool for you not to like it or want it. No need to defend that choice. But you don't get to tell others what they get to like/want/value.
     
  14. gtgrad95 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Apologies. I meant the iPhone 3G.
     
  15. Bo31210 macrumors member

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    Buddy, the Apple watch isnt an investment unless it is the Edition and then is is a questionable one. I bought one because I wanted it and I am a gadget whore. I am not buying it as an investment. If I buy a watch as an investment, I need some other help.
     
  16. madsci954 macrumors 68030

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    WHAT!? Dude, I can understand the Watch but no llamas!?!? Llamas are ****** awesome!!!!! Everyone needs a llama in their lives.
     
  17. BeyondtheTech macrumors 68020

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    You don't have to buy everything Apple to love Apple, unlike that weird guy on TNW who does, even if he doesn't have a purpose for it. Among many products, I haven't purchased an Airport Express, or an iPod shuffle/nano/touch, and don't plan to.

    I enjoyed my first iPad and quickly moved to the iPad 2 when it first came out. Same with the iPhone 3GS when I already had the iPhone 3G and the iPhone before that.

    However, I'd like to think my voice counts. I've fired off quite a few emails to Steve Jobs back in the day, as well as emails and tweets to Tim Cook and Phil Schiller. A number of times, I've gotten calls from Executive Relations and other departments ultimately dispatched by one of the three that responded and/or handled some of my issues and requests.

    So, I'd like to think that a lot of points of view I raised in various hardware and software products were at least taken into consideration. That couldn't be done if I didn't have first-hand knowledge of a product like the Apple Watch.

    As a previous proud owner of a Pebble smartwatch, I knew what the limitations were still going to be in their next product, the Pebble Time, and with word of Android Wear integration with an iOS app in development, I could only assume that Apple would offer far more integration with the Apple Watch than any of the previous products I mentioned.

    So, for me, it made sense to me to jump into the Apple Watch, and it's not a purchase I regret. My first foray is the Sport watch, priced moderately at $399. Of course, if and when the second-generation model comes out, I won't feel as bad when I pass it off to one of my children or sell it off to offset the cost of the new one.
     
  18. Camusrieux, Apr 28, 2015
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    The contrast between (1), "This should really be a standalone product," and (6), "the book is still out on how much battery life is used" (with a dash of (3) as well), is also, er, interesting. You may need to take up this objection with the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
     
  19. flur macrumors 68000

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    Dude. I would totally buy that jar of bees.
     
  20. greytmom macrumors 68040

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    Really? Why would you point that out? That lies in the eye of the beholder.

    My ROI has been fantastic.
     
  21. CharlieCat666 macrumors regular

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    I don't understand peoples' qualms with the watch being dependent on the iPhone. Why would you want to do things like watch movies, surf the web, or have a long phone call on a tiny screen attached to your wrist?
     
  22. gtgrad95 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Not saying it is an investment in the financial sense (like a Rolex, for example). I meant a return on value. Does the $350+ cost justify the value it adds to your life over not having one? IMHO, no.
     
  23. greytmom macrumors 68040

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    Those Nissan Cubes are UGLY.
     
  24. adammull macrumors 6502a

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    I LOL'ed. (Sigh) Kids these days with their spelling and grammar.

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    And the animal feces. I want it SO BAD.
     
  25. SixtyK macrumors 6502a

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    Sadly, I'm allergic.
     

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