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I know I'm in the minority but...
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I don't want to do any of those things. I want to be able to use it as a fitness device and use apple pay without always having my iPhone with me.
This tells me you have no idea how the Apple watch works because:
1. The fitness stuff works without the phone and will sync fitness data when the phone is nearby.
2. You don't need the iPhone with you for Apple Pay to work.
Did you even research a single thing before posting the "I wont be buying either" thread?
Well, technically you can but the Watch only tracks your steps when not connected to a phone. The actual distance and calories are calculated after the phone is synced.
How would you suggest a watch connect to Pay, seeing as many business don't offer free wifi and those that do usually require you to log on first?
Wrong. Use it with the phone for a few days, and it figures out your stride. Reports say it is surprisingly accurate afterwards, even without the phone.
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I've struggled a bit on your 3, 5, and 6, but ultimately decided to get an Apple Watch. Here are my thougths/responses to your issues
1) iPhone Requirement
But you already have an iPhone... so surely that can't be a reason why YOU didn't get one. Sure I think Apple may be limiting their market, but in the end, I think this decision will gain Apple more profit (by switchers from android to iphone) than lost (from people who would have gotten an Apple watch, but didn't have an iPhone).
2) Lag
Most of this lag is from 3rd party apps which run on the iPhone, rather than an issue with the apple watch itself. This will likely change later this year with full-fledged apple watch apps.
3) GPS
I agreed with this for a while... but I have come to settle on this being a good decision for the moment. It's obviously a battery compromise (which is another complaint of yours). I feel fine about this because I can either a) bring my iPhone, which I would likely do anyway to get full music, data, audiobooks, podcast... or b) not bring my iPhone and therefor not get GPS data, but still get a surprisingly accurate distance due to calibration.
4) lack of purpose
I think one of the bigger complaints is the lack of focus, which can be argued as "too much purpose" (i.e. you can pick from whatever purpose fits you). This is "apple's most personal device ever" so you can decide if you want it for fitness tracking, for notifications, for glancable information, etc. There's a lot you can do with it, just figure out what works best for you.
5) 2nd gen is better
Well... yeah... I waited for second gen iPhone/iPad. I almost waited for second gen Apple watch as well. But I ultimately decided that this radically different product was too exciting for me to not be one of the first to test it out during the "beta tester" phase.
6) battery life
Most people seem pretty happy with a full day of use. If you are expecting 2 day battery life, that just isn't going to happen anytime in the next 5 years. 2nd gen may have incremental improvements, but it's certainly not going to be a selling point. Especially if they add GPS like you're wanting
1) iPhone Requirement
But you already have an iPhone... so surely that can't be a reason why YOU didn't get one. Sure I think Apple may be limiting their market, but in the end, I think this decision will gain Apple more profit (by switchers from android to iphone) than lost (from people who would have gotten an Apple watch, but didn't have an iPhone).
2) Lag
Most of this lag is from 3rd party apps which run on the iPhone, rather than an issue with the apple watch itself. This will likely change later this year with full-fledged apple watch apps.
3) GPS
I agreed with this for a while... but I have come to settle on this being a good decision for the moment. It's obviously a battery compromise (which is another complaint of yours). I feel fine about this because I can either a) bring my iPhone, which I would likely do anyway to get full music, data, audiobooks, podcast... or b) not bring my iPhone and therefor not get GPS data, but still get a surprisingly accurate distance due to calibration.
4) lack of purpose
I think one of the bigger complaints is the lack of focus, which can be argued as "too much purpose" (i.e. you can pick from whatever purpose fits you). This is "apple's most personal device ever" so you can decide if you want it for fitness tracking, for notifications, for glancable information, etc. There's a lot you can do with it, just figure out what works best for you.
5) 2nd gen is better
Well... yeah... I waited for second gen iPhone/iPad. I almost waited for second gen Apple watch as well. But I ultimately decided that this radically different product was too exciting for me to not be one of the first to test it out during the "beta tester" phase.
6) battery life
Most people seem pretty happy with a full day of use. If you are expecting 2 day battery life, that just isn't going to happen anytime in the next 5 years. 2nd gen may have incremental improvements, but it's certainly not going to be a selling point. Especially if they add GPS like you're wanting
So...
OP was explaining something they felt the Apple Watch wasn't able to do. gtgrad95 was explaining to OP that it is actually possible for the watch to do what they were asking.
I'm not sure I understand your comment.
I mean, who cares if the data isn't calculated directly on the watch, which was his issue with using it without his phone; you still GET the data.
"2nd generation Apple products tend to be much better than the original."
This can be said about "The Next Generation" of most things... except for star trek...
At some point you have to jump on the game or you will be waiting for the next best thing for ev er....
you're kilin me smalls!
This can be said about "The Next Generation" of most things... except for star trek...
At some point you have to jump on the game or you will be waiting for the next best thing for ev er....
you're kilin me smalls!
Also, if it was not depending on the iPhone it would require a separate SIM card and contract, that in the long run would be quite expensive, it also would mean a different phone number etc.
I think Apple was thinking about it (Apple SIM), but which carrier would let them do that?
I think as things are at the moment, Apple did the right thing and tethered the Watch to the iPhone. There is also the thing of battery life, etc.
For the time being I trust Apple to do the right thing regarding this. As for OP's thoughts on not buying first generation products, I can say I never bought one before, but it needs first time buyers to make it worthwhile to develop further, this time it was my turn to give something back to previous first timers.
No, I don't want to watch movies or surf the web on the watch, though making a phone call with the watch plus a Bluetooth headset, I wouldn't mind doing.
Personally, I'd like it if the watch was my "phone," and I could ditch the iPhone, and use the iPad for watching movies and surfing the net. I know technology isn't there yet, but I think eventually, maybe 5 years down the line or so, that will be the direction we will go.
You don't need any sort of network connection on your phone or watch to use Apple Pay. It's the store that contacts the credit card company -- your device just provides your account info to them.
Each to their own of course, but some of your reasons don't make any sense - e.g. You say not needing to be tied to the iPhone is a "deal breaker" but the only reason you give as to why is that Apple are not offering the watch to a Android users?? How is that a deal breaker?
I think so, too. It's going to take some major steps forward in battery technology to get from here to there, though.
You wear it everyday. If it's something you get value out of it for a year the return is pretty high. Just divide your cost by 365 and that's how much you'd need to get out of it. So basically is it worth more than a cup of coffee? That's the question. I say yes.
While in some ways I can see the appeal of it being a separate device not tethered to a phone, I am really not interested in paying monthly fees just to use my watch, and I don't see myself replacing my phone with a watch either. So this seems like the best approach.
Now now now. Don't use common sense! The Apple Watch is a waste of money!!!!! :roll eyes: LOL