I'm in the "hate it" camp. I guess that's the problem. I don't think the original iOS theme had a hate it camp.
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I'm in the "hate it" camp. I guess that's the problem. I don't think the original iOS theme had a hate it camp.
Don't bother. I've discovered that lately on MacRumors.com, form members will take every oportunity to tell you just how wrong you are - no civil discussion, open mindedness or attempt to see things from another's point of view. Apple is right, thus anything that doesn't tow the party line is wrong.
Personally, I agree with you. I think iOS 7 is a mess. Functionality is there but discoverability is poor. Too hard to tell what's a label and what's a button as compared with iOS 6. But say that around here and you'll be publicly executed.
No, because it was just THERE. Before that theme there wasn't ANYTHING to compare it to really (not for the masses, if you ignore Palm, etc). It's been the way it is all along and I personally think no one really paid much attention to it (not consciously). I know I did not. Honestly never gave it a single thought.
Before the big change, I never heard a whole lot of talk about how people just love the icons (and as you said, not many really hated it either). They just.... were. Indifference.
But now... there's dreaded CHANGE. For the first time.
This is the forum thread that made me realise that I have had it with Macrumors. Everything on this site becomes a war of 'us' versus 'them'.
It was Apple who originally created this culture, with their product ecosystem, and the vertical integration. You either own an Apple product, or you have nothing to do with Apple. People trying to justify their position are really just trying to justify the hundreds of dollars they spent on whichever expensive gadget. And they think that if they convince enough people that the other product is flawed, then maybe they will convince themselves that they don't want it.
In this case however, the war is between people who prefer the new design aesthetic against the people who prefer the old. This is a war that shouldn't even have to happen. When Microsoft introduced major design changes to Windows, they gave users options to revert to the old appearance. But it's not like Apple to ever let people leave their options open.
It is degrading to see the 'old iOS' side declare that Apple is doomed, and that everyone in the general public is going to have the same reactions. It is similarly degrading to see the 'new iOS' side trying to evangelize other users, on the pretence that those users will learn to like it, as if everyone needs to use the latest software.
Needless to say, I have been wanting to push a lot of down-vote buttons. But that's not the way it's done here anymore. If you want to disagree with someone, you have to actually say it to them. And if I did that, then I'd be just another ******* with an opinion.
The person who said that using older versions of iOS is like using leeches to treat wounds is wrong, because no one's lives are depending on iOS looking the way it does. The person who said that it's like refusing to fly with an airline because they changed their logo is closer to the truth, but still wrong. You will probably be looking at your iPhone/iPad much more than the side of an airplane. But ultimately, it comes down to is a difference in aesthetics.
And people on both sides are bringing in elders and children to help their arguments, but they're not really caring about how it works for elders and children, unless it justifies their existing argument. They're thinking about how iOS works for themselves.
Sometimes you have to zoom out and think to yourself 'it's just a ****ing phone and/or tablet.' Think how important it really is. On that note, I am going to stop following tech news for a while, probably a year or more. Goodbye Macrumors, Ars, Gizmodo and the rest. I'm not saying mine is the example you should follow. You should not give up on your tech news, unless you want to. But I find it has just been eating up time in my life, and has few real world consequences to myself.
I had been feeling these frustrations for a while, but this thread was the last straw. Take comfort in the fact that Macrumors will never be quite as bad as the jerks who sling verbal mud at the comment threads on the evasi0n site.
It was Apple who originally created this culture, with their product ecosystem, and the vertical integration. You either own an Apple product, or you have nothing to do with Apple. People trying to justify their position are really just trying to justify the hundreds of dollars they spent on whichever expensive gadget. And they think that if they convince enough people that the other product is flawed, then maybe they will convince themselves that they don't want it.
In this case however, the war is between people who prefer the new design aesthetic against the people who prefer the old. This is a war that shouldn't even have to happen. When Microsoft introduced major design changes to Windows, they gave users options to revert to the old appearance. But it's not like Apple to ever let people leave their options open.
It is degrading to see the 'old iOS' side declare that Apple is doomed, and that everyone in the general public is going to have the same reactions. It is similarly degrading to see the 'new iOS' side trying to evangelize other users, on the pretence that those users will learn to like it, as if everyone needs to use the latest software.
Needless to say, I have been wanting to push a lot of down-vote buttons. But that's not the way it's done here anymore. If you want to disagree with someone, you have to actually say it to them. And if I did that, then I'd be just another ******* with an opinion.
The person who said that using older versions of iOS is like using leeches to treat wounds is wrong, because no one's lives are depending on iOS looking the way it does. The person who said that it's like refusing to fly with an airline because they changed their logo is closer to the truth, but still wrong. You will probably be looking at your iPhone/iPad much more than the side of an airplane. But ultimately, it comes down to is a difference in aesthetics.
And people on both sides are bringing in elders and children to help their arguments, but they're not really caring about how it works for elders and children, unless it justifies their existing argument. They're thinking about how iOS works for themselves.
Sometimes you have to zoom out and think to yourself 'it's just a ****ing phone and/or tablet.' Think how important it really is. On that note, I am going to stop following tech news for a while, probably a year or more. Goodbye Macrumors, Ars, Gizmodo and the rest. I'm not saying mine is the example you should follow. You should not give up on your tech news, unless you want to. But I find it has just been eating up time in my life, and has few real world consequences to myself.
I had been feeling these frustrations for a while, but this thread was the last straw. Take comfort in the fact that Macrumors will never be quite as bad as the jerks who sling verbal mud at the comment threads on the evasi0n site.
Yea, but, my son is a genius who could consistently solve a Rubik's cube in 47 seconds when he was 7 years old...and he is most likely, much smarter than you. Thanks for the quote, and I am happily employed, both as an independent contractor and as a permanent employee for an organization that is the world leader in the niche products it produces. Also, have you ever heard of the word hyperbole?
On topic: iOS 7 seems like an iteration...and there needs to be more iterations.
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Dude, relax....maybe discussion forums aren't for you? People are gonna say a lot of crap so you really shouldn't take it to heart.
Trying get my Dad to use iOS 6 was actually pretty hard at the beginning - it's certainly developed a steeper learning curve.
Definitely took him a couple of weeks to adapt, and he's not bad on computers at all actually.
I haven't even tried 7 yet so I'm wondering if it will be easier/harder for my parents' generation?
Definitely took him a couple of weeks to adapt, and he's not bad on computers at all actually.
I haven't even tried 7 yet so I'm wondering if it will be easier/harder for my parents' generation?
Agreed. This place is a cumbayah circle compared to a lot of automotive discussion forums.
IMO, a lot of the visual elements are harder to see for people with poor eyesight. Thinner font and lines, bright colors on white, text links instead of buttons, semi-transparent layers... It all just feels very unfriendly to me (I have poor eyesight), and I imagine many older people will feel the same way. Granted, some of the effects can be turned off or mitigated with settings in the Accessibility section, but even with all the settings adjusted, it still doesn't feel as visually comfortable as iOS 6.
No if you buy a 5S, you will be stuck with iOS 7. Apple has never and will never make a build of iOS 6 for the 5S. If you really want iOS 6, your best bet is to buy a 5 now before stocks run out.
As the resident geek of the family, I will not be updating anyone's phone to iOS 7. It has shed its user-friendliness in favor of trendiness. I myself am on the fence. iOS 7 has features I really want, but I also derive a certain satisfaction from the way my device looks, and I don't think I could stomach iOS 7's visuals. They are embarrassing.
Sorry to see you go. But you're also wrong. This is more than just an aesthetic change. It is a usability change. Abandoning the "button" user interface concept creates confusion; it isn't obvious which touched things will perform and action. Bad font size and contrast make using the device truly more difficult, not simply prettier or uglier. Icons which no longer innately represent their function slows interaction with the device and increases learning curve; your brain must subconsciously make the extra step of learning the new arbitrary image (until it becomes better ingrained) or always reading the text label (assuming one even exists).
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