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I NEED Monitor ADVICE asap now that the MP-8800s are shipping.

mac2maverick said:
I assume you don't plan on gaming with it. A minimum of 5ms is recommended for gaming <5 is even better.
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actually I do and thats why I am asking what is recommended for gaming. I do want the large screen size

I dont see a monitor out there that has a minimum of 5ms
I'll check the samsung out. thats my next choice
 
Mr.PS said:
I wouldn't look at anything else but the ACD. The 30" is just amazing. I've owned several Dell monitors and just recently had the pleasure of using the new 3008FPW for a day, while impressive, it's still not up to par with the ACD in my opinion. The ACD has such supreme color replication, brightness, and contrast - it's truly amazing.
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Explain ACD? also I noticed the 30" dont have the minimum of 5ms. they have 6ms or greater.

is the 3008fpw adequate. or should I sacrofice size for that feature with the samung or the nec 24.
 
I like the dell 24" screens but don't know which?

E248 -£300
2408 -£600
2407 -£600

Is it worth double the price for the 2408 or 2407?
 
now that I know what ACD means Apple Cinema Display . I looked at specs of the dell monitor and they seem so much more robust. Apples are costly and dont offer much in the way of feature.
 
jcvmf214 said:
Explain ACD? also I noticed the 30" dont have the minimum of 5ms. they have 6ms or greater.

is the 3008fpw adequate. or should I sacrofice size for that feature with the samung or the nec 24.
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I'm a former gaming junkie. I've owned 3 or 4 crazy setups since 2003 with various hardware from AMD to Intel with various monitors from Dell, Apple, and Viewsonic. None of them were below 12ms response time. To be honest, I never noticed any sort of smearing or artifacts or any of the BS all of the BS reviewers claim to see on LCD displays. I've gamed on the 30" ACD recently for kicks (crysis demo), I did not see any sort of smearing or trailing because of the higher response time. I edit high frame per second video quite frequently and see no smearing either. The Dell is adequate, but I still feel the ACD is a better product in terms of color reproduction and such. Plus it's bezel design and sturdy feel will most likely not be beat for time to come - I know that doesn't matter to some but it matters to me. The Dell is also $2000, while the ACD comes in at $17xx with student discount, or $18xx without. Get the ACD, you will not be sorry.
 
jcvmf214 said:
now that I know what ACD means Apple Cinema Display . I looked at specs of the dell monitor and they seem so much more robust. Apples are costly and dont offer much in the way of feature.
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Use them both, the Dell doesn't offer anything more outside of more connectors (HDMI, display-port, component). While the contrast ratios and NTSC gamut favor the Dell, it is still not better then the ACD in real professional use. Gaming, that's a different story, it's probably the better monitor, but then again, your custom built twin SLI gaming rig is probably the better setup for gaming over your Mac. Oh and BTW, DELL's are costly. The 3008FPW is $2,000 USD. The 3007FPW is out dated in both features/specs and bezel design. So there shouldn't be much fuss there, it's either a 20/23/30" ACD or a Dell 20/24/30" FPW/WFP.
 
Just bought the 30" ACD and it's pretty nice. I don't have anything to compare it against, so I'm not sure how the other monitors are.

Was it absolutely worth the money? Who knows.
 
Oh, I'm not questioning it, at least not for myself.

I was willing to pay to get this monitor.

For my uses, it's perfect.

For other people, who knows.
 
timmillwood said:
I'm still wondering...
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The 2407 and 2408 are higher quality panels than the E248. They have better viewing angles and more consistent colour when viewing from an angle. Generally you get what you pay for, you paid a large price for the MP, don't skimp on the monitor.
 
DWS said:
The 2407 and 2408 are higher quality panels than the E248. They have better viewing angles and more consistent colour when viewing from an angle. Generally you get what you pay for, you paid a large price for the MP, don't skimp on the monitor.
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but its double the price I could have 2 248s instead of 1 2408.
 
samsung

everyone with samsung monitors, paritcularly the 245 line-

what settings are you using? (both monitor and system settings).
using the "syncmaster" color profile in system preferences, i'm having alot of trouble getting similar colors as what i'm used to seeing on ACD's and on my MBP screen. (using my mbp til my mp arrives...)

What monitor and color space settings do you use? i currently have all the settings used right out of the box, although i definetly fiddled with them alot today. (currently at 100 for brightness, 50 for contrast, etc etc)

Thanks!
 
Binford said:
everyone with samsung monitors, paritcularly the 245 line-

what settings are you using? (both monitor and system settings).
using the "syncmaster" color profile in system preferences, i'm having alot of trouble getting similar colors as what i'm used to seeing on ACD's and on my MBP screen. (using my mbp til my mp arrives...)

What monitor and color space settings do you use? i currently have all the settings used right out of the box, although i definetly fiddled with them alot today. (currently at 100 for brightness, 50 for contrast, etc etc)

Thanks!
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The Samsung 245 BW & 245B use TN monitors. Not sure if you know this but TN monitors are a low end type monitor and you'll never get the type of colours you do with ACD's. There are 3 types of monitor panels:

Low end TN monitors that have lower colour reproduction but fast response times and generally these screens are good for gaming (because of the fast <5ms response times) and general word processing, etc. The viewing angle is about 160 degrees which means that watching movies on them (especially larger screens) is usually only good for the primary viewer.

Then there's the high end screens called S-IPS panels which are the best screens, have excellent colour reproduction, 178 degree viewing angles, and usually fast response times. These screens are very expensive! They are good for everyone but so expensive that primarily professionals who need accurate colour reproduction use these screens. Gamers who can afford it also use these screens.

The compromise screen is the VA panel (S-PVA, MVA). The better ones (BenQ FP241W/FP241VW & Dell 2407 WPF-HC) have excellent colour reproduction and 178 degree viewing angles, but have slower response times (>5 ms) although usually fast enough for most gamers.

Manufacturers sometimes change their panel types without consumers being aware of it but generally you get what you pay for. For people not too worried about colour reproduction the TN panels are often sufficient and very cheap. All 22" monitors are of the TN panel type. Manufacturers like Samsung sell screens to other companies and then they add their own stuff to it. In other words, many competing companies monitors use the exact same screens.

Hope this helps. I'd still try to maximize settings on your monitor but don't expect it to be like an ACD. I wondered why ACD monitors were so expensive, did some research and found that much of the cost is justified.
 
mac2maverick said:
The Samsung 245 BW & 245T use TN monitors. Not sure if you know this but TN monitors are a low end type monitor and you'll never get the type of colours you do with ACD's. There are 3 types of monitor panels:

Low end TN monitors that have lower colour reproduction but fast response times and generally these screens are good for gaming (because of the fast <5ms response times) and general word processing, etc. The viewing angle is about 160 degrees which means that watching movies on them (especially larger screens) is usually only good for the primary viewer.
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Listen to the man, he speaks the truth. :) I'm perfectly happy with my monitor, but then I just want it for gaming and coding. It's not going to match the ACD, but it is great with what I need it for.
 
jcvmf214 said:
Explain ACD? also I noticed the 30" dont have the minimum of 5ms. they have 6ms or greater.

is the 3008fpw adequate. or should I sacrofice size for that feature with the samung or the nec 24.
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6ms is adequate for all but the most picky gamers. Test watch it if possible before you buy.
 
Hope this helps. I'd still try to maximize settings on your monitor but don't expect it to be like an ACD. I wondered why ACD monitors were so expensive, did some research and found that much of the cost is justified.[/QUOTE]

the only thing that is stopping me from the ACW is the contrast ratio. Not sure if that should make or break my decision on that for gaming and moive watching.

does the acw have component av connectors?
 
jcvmf214 said:
Hope this helps. I'd still try to maximize settings on your monitor but don't expect it to be like an ACD. I wondered why ACD monitors were so expensive, did some research and found that much of the cost is justified.
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the only thing that is stopping me from the ACW is the contrast ratio. Not sure if that should make or break my decision on that for gaming and moive watching.
 
mac2maverick said:
The Samsung 245 BW & 245T use TN monitors. Not sure if you know this but TN monitors are a low end type monitor and you'll never get the type of colours you do with ACD's. There are 3 types of monitor panels:

Low end TN monitors that have lower colour reproduction but fast response times and generally these screens are good for gaming (because of the fast <5ms response times) and general word processing, etc. The viewing angle is about 160 degrees which means that watching movies on them (especially larger screens) is usually only good for the primary viewer.

Then there's the high end screens called S-IPS panels which are the best screens, have excellent colour reproduction, 178 degree viewing angles, and usually fast response times. These screens are very expensive! They are good for everyone but so expensive that primarily professionals who need accurate colour reproduction use these screens. Gamers who can afford it also use these screens.

The compromise screen is the VA panel (S-PVA, MVA). The better ones (BenQ FP241W/FP241VW & Dell 2407 WPF-HC) have excellent colour reproduction and 178 degree viewing angles, but have slower response times (>5 ms) although usually fast enough for most gamers.

Manufacturers sometimes change their panel types without consumers being aware of it but generally you get what you pay for. For people not too worried about colour reproduction the TN panels are often sufficient and very cheap. All 22" monitors are of the TN panel type. Manufacturers like Samsung sell screens to other companies and then they add their own stuff to it. In other words, many competing companies monitors use the exact same screens.

Hope this helps. I'd still try to maximize settings on your monitor but don't expect it to be like an ACD. I wondered why ACD monitors were so expensive, did some research and found that much of the cost is justified.
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wow thank you for the help. should've done more research before heading out the store :(
 
does the ACD come with the glossy finish? saw a couple of glossy smaller screens and on laptops but what is the purpose of the glossy screen?
 
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