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I'm in complete agreement.


There's also the over exaggerated bashing of last years model (by the faithful themselves) which is labeled as laggy, or worse. Criticisms that were hypocritically denied prior to the new models release.

My real world experience with Apple, both reveals and proves that newer is not always better.

I think you've elevated to a higher plain of existence. i accept your justification but technically the 6s is superior from a hardware perspective.
 
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I think you've elevated to a higher plain of existence. i accept your justification but technically the 6s is superior from a hardware perspective.
No justification claimed, set that concept aside and open your mind... are you open minded? :D

At _no_ time did I ever suggest that the 6 Plus was _superior_ to the 6S Plus.

I am fully informed as to the technical details, and specifications of each Apple product I own... or choose to focus on.
Make no mistake, I don't embrace guesswork, I use facts. Always. Without Fail.

What I _did_ say is that for my use, the Force Touch / 3D Touch tech that is one of Apple's bragging points, is of no use to me. That's not to be confused with one stating that it's useless.

To the contrary, it's a great technology that when properly matured, sorted, and embraced by all app developers, will be very useful IF that's what one likes. But even it perfectly sorted today, I would not use it.

An example of the concept:
Some laptop users prefer using a mouse no matter how great the trackpad is on their laptop.
I, on the other hand, always prefer Apple's trackpads and hate using a mouse.

See? Personal preference. :D
 
No justification claimed, set that concept aside and open your mind... are you open minded? :D

At _no_ time did I ever suggest that the 6 Plus was _superior_ to the 6S Plus.

I am fully informed as to the technical details, and specifications of each Apple product I own... or choose to focus on.
Make no mistake, I don't embrace guesswork, I use facts. Always. Without Fail.

What I _did_ say is that for my use, the Force Touch / 3D Touch tech that is one of Apple's bragging points, is of no use to me. That's not to be confused with one stating that it's useless.

To the contrary, it's a great technology that when properly matured, sorted, and embraced by all app developers, will be very useful IF that's what one likes. But even it perfectly sorted today, I would not use it.

An example of the concept:
Some laptop users prefer using a mouse no matter how great the trackpad is on their laptop.
I, on the other hand, always prefer Apple's trackpads and hate using a mouse.

See? Personal preference. :D

I think that most people who went from the 6+ to the 6S+ did so purely for the extra RAM. The massively increased CPU/GPU power was a welcome bonus, and 3D Touch/LivePhoto just came along for the ride.
 
I think that most people who went from the 6+ to the 6S+ did so purely for the extra RAM. The massively increased CPU/GPU power was a welcome bonus, and 3D Touch/LivePhoto just came along for the ride.

I moved from the 6 to the 6S Plus, but my reasons were pretty much the same. Though I got a lot more perks out of the deal. The RAM was a must, but the durability was a big one for me too. The OIS was a sweet perk. And like you said 3D Touch and Live Photos came along for the ride, as well as 4K. I've grown to really like 3D Touch though.
 
If you're trying to suggest somehow that the 6 Plus is better than the 6s Plus and thus justify your decision to keep the 6 Plus, you are sorely mistaken.
Right. If anything both phones are the same. You can never say the 6plus is better though.
 
I think that most people who went from the 6+ to the 6S+ did so purely for the extra RAM. The massively increased CPU/GPU power was a welcome bonus, and 3D Touch/LivePhoto just came along for the ride.

True, the RAM was the most welcome addition to the 6S series. It made the phone a multi tasking machine and removed much frustration when switching between apps and using media heavy sites.
 
Right. If anything both phones are the same. You can never say the 6plus is better though.

The 6 Plus is better at the following:

1. Battery life
2. Ergonomics/exterior (a little thinner and lighter)
3. Display quality/calibration. Every 6S Plus I've seen has been very yellow and uneven in tint. Just my observation.

Everything else, like actually USING THE PHONE, the 6S Plus wins :)
 
I think that most people who went from the 6+ to the 6S+ did so purely for the extra RAM. The massively increased CPU/GPU power was a welcome bonus, and 3D Touch/LivePhoto just came along for the ride.
You've brought up excellent valid points.

Presently my iPhone 6 Plus serves as secondary everyday carry smartphone, my primary being a Nexus 6.

The last two years Nexus 5 and 6 have been my primary smartphones of choice. Not because I don't enjoy my iPhones, but they are unable to provide the level of functionality that my Androids do. That's not a knock on Apple, just the facts as it relates to my business centric web centered requirements.

I particularly enjoy Nexus due to its vast functionality, speed, capacity and wonderful 6.0" display. I'm disappointed that the latest Nexus has a reduced display size of 5.7" although that's still significantly better than 5.5".

If Apple had provided me with a better experience from my new hardware over the last year I'd be more inclined to buy a 6S, but I'm choosing not to fatten Apples coffers by cutting back my usual several thousand dollars in annual purchases to zero.

A blip they won't notice, it's on principal I've stopped advocating for them, instead spending my tech cash on Microsofts Surface Pro 4, SurfaceBook and other goodies from them. Windows 10 is proving to be a giant milestone of success as well.

Therefore going forward into 2016 I say Viva Le Difference!

Apple doesn't need our money, Think MultiPlatform for Peak Enjoyment:D
 
Put both phones at the same price. Would anyone buy the 6plus over the 6s plus? I know at my local bestbuy the note 4 cost more than the note 5.
 
What I _did_ say is that for my use, the Force Touch / 3D Touch tech that is one of Apple's bragging points, is of no use to me. That's not to be confused with one stating that it's useless.

To the contrary, it's a great technology that when properly matured, sorted, and embraced by all app developers, will be very useful IF that's what one likes. But even it perfectly sorted today, I would not use it.
I suppose that's where I take some amount of umbrage with your post. You mentioned that you put it in such a way that it was for your use, but part of your statement somewhat contradicts that based on the wording.

To double check, I borrowed my daughters 6S to use for a few days. That confirmed my suspicions that much like gestures on my 2015 MBP, Apples Force Touch and 3D Touch features are gimmicks that only detract and slow down ones tactile experience.

However it could also be said that these are ideal gimmicks for the Apple Crowd. Wowed by anything Apple can claim as its own, the benefit of these dubious features is their exclusiveness to Apple. It's the Sci-Fi element that delights.
You call them gimmicks and state that their benefit is their exclusivity to Apple, and by virtue of the fact that you only stated this one benefit can lead people to interpret that as being its only benefit, though to your credit you never say that explicitly.

I can understand that it isn't for you and that's fine, you're entitled to that opinion and I will fully admit that it's not necessarily useful for all people. However, there are those that find it useful and it doesn't necessarily detract from their experience nor slow them down. Personally, I enjoy 3D Touch on my 6s Plus even though I have never used the Force Touch "Peek and Pop" function on my Retina MacBook's Trackpad.

My real world experience with Apple, both reveals and proves that newer is not always better.
In other words, I agree whole-heartedly with your above statement, except that I would extend that to a general statement about a good many things aside from just Apple.:p
 
I'm in complete agreement.
To double check, I borrowed my daughters 6S to use for a few days. That confirmed my suspicions that much like gestures on my 2015 MBP, Apples Force Touch and 3D Touch features are gimmicks that only detract and slow down ones tactile experience.

However it could also be said that these are ideal gimmicks for the Apple Crowd. Wowed by anything Apple can claim as its own, the benefit of these dubious features is their exclusiveness to Apple. It's the Sci-Fi element that delights.

Time will tell whether 3D Touch will go anywhere, and that is largely dependent on the developers. To me, 3D touch is analogous to the introduction of the context menu in the personal computing UI, and that had a profound impact on usability. Today I don't know how I'd work without it. I truly hope that 3D Touch goes the way that did. If it doesn't, it doesn't really change the use of the device. You don't have to use it. I don't use it now, but will if it becomes more utilitarian.

The 6 Plus is better at the following:

1. Battery life
2. Ergonomics/exterior (a little thinner and lighter)
3. Display quality/calibration. Every 6S Plus I've seen has been very yellow and uneven in tint. Just my observation.

Everything else, like actually USING THE PHONE, the 6S Plus wins :)

I realize this is just your opinion, but you can't have seen more than a handful of devices out of millions sold. I have done quite a bit of semi-pro photography so have what I think is a discerning eye for display color, and I can tell you that my 6S Plus's display has no color issues.

You've brought up excellent valid points.

Presently my iPhone 6 Plus serves as secondary everyday carry smartphone, my primary being a Nexus 6.

The last two years Nexus 5 and 6 have been my primary smartphones of choice. Not because I don't enjoy my iPhones, but they are unable to provide the level of functionality that my Androids do. That's not a knock on Apple, just the facts as it relates to my business centric web centered requirements.

I particularly enjoy Nexus due to its vast functionality, speed, capacity and wonderful 6.0" display. I'm disappointed that the latest Nexus has a reduced display size of 5.7" although that's still significantly better than 5.5".

If Apple had provided me with a better experience from my new hardware over the last year I'd be more inclined to buy a 6S, but I'm choosing not to fatten Apples coffers by cutting back my usual several thousand dollars in annual purchases to zero.

A blip they won't notice, it's on principal I've stopped advocating for them, instead spending my tech cash on Microsofts Surface Pro 4, SurfaceBook and other goodies from them. Windows 10 is proving to be a giant milestone of success as well.

Therefore going forward into 2016 I say Viva Le Difference!

Apple doesn't need our money, Think MultiPlatform for Peak Enjoyment:D

This says a lot. A great deal of the value and innovation in Apple products is there interaction in the ecosystem. Trying to mix and match with Android (to me) creates so much friction in the workflow that its incredibly annoying. I too am forced to be multi-platform, because I have to use a Windows computer for work. So I get that, but it generally does not make your life easier by mixing ecosystems... be it Microsoft's, Apple's, or Google's. I am very delighted to see the new direction from Microsoft, however, in making their applications run well in other ecosystems. But they are primarily a software company, who has been dragged into hardware due to the ineptness of their hardware partners in competing in some areas with Apple and Google.
 
The 6 Plus is better at the following:

1. Battery life
2. Ergonomics/exterior (a little thinner and lighter)
3. Display quality/calibration. Every 6S Plus I've seen has been very yellow and uneven in tint. Just my observation.

Everything else, like actually USING THE PHONE, the 6S Plus wins :)
I've seen loads of 6S+ and not one has been yellow, they've all had cool temp screens.
 
So you prefer the lag, stutter, and vastly inferior multitasking of the 6 plus?

You really might be the only one. The 6 plus was the worst performing iPhone out of the box that Apple has ever released. It felt so refreshing to get the 6s Plus and realize what the 6 Plus SHOULD have been. I can actually use more than 2-3 apps without them constantly refreshing and Safari can actually hold tabs in memory now.
Next year you can just use cut and paste to describe the 6S plus vs the new 7, does Apple know its customers or what?
 
From all the S variants we've had so far, for me the 6 S-line has far been the weakest. Apple has also hit a glass ceiling in terms of smartphone hardware like Samsung two years ago. They will definitely enable wireless charging next or the year after.

As for me I have not decided to upgrade to 6S plus from my 6 plus - purely due to the weight and thickness. I've been using Android phablets since Note 2 and one thing that matters a lot for a big phone is weight and thinness. I'll wait and see what the new 7 brings next year
 
From all the S variants we've had so far, for me the 6 S-line has far been the weakest. Apple has also hit a glass ceiling in terms of smartphone hardware like Samsung two years ago. They will definitely enable wireless charging next or the year after.

As for me I have not decided to upgrade to 6S plus from my 6 plus - purely due to the weight and thickness. I've been using Android phablets since Note 2 and one thing that matters a lot for a big phone is weight and thinness. I'll wait and see what the new 7 brings next year

What??? It's the biggest performance upgrade for years, and makes the iPhone the fastest on the market. As for increased thickness, my 6S+ fits into the same flipcase I used with my 6+.
 
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The 6 Plus is better at the following:

1. Battery life
2. Ergonomics/exterior (a little thinner and lighter)
3. Display quality/calibration. Every 6S Plus I've seen has been very yellow and uneven in tint. Just my observation.

Everything else, like actually USING THE PHONE, the 6S Plus wins :)
I thought the 6 plus and 6S plus battery life was the same or better? I only have a 6S plus so wouldn't know if the 6 Plus has worse battery life
 
I'm in complete agreement.

This is the first year since the original iPhone release that I haven't bought the latest model for my personal enjoyment. However I did buy a total of four iPhone 6S Plus models for various family members

Although I have no budgetary constraints, the reason I decided to keep using my 6 Plus was the lack of a compelling reason to upgrade. Nothing about the 6S appeals. Actually I'm put off by it.

To double check, I borrowed my daughters 6S to use for a few days. That confirmed my suspicions that much like gestures on my 2015 MBP, Apples Force Touch and 3D Touch features are gimmicks that only detract and slow down ones tactile experience.

However it could also be said that these are ideal gimmicks for the Apple Crowd. Wowed by anything Apple can claim as its own, the benefit of these dubious features is their exclusiveness to Apple. It's the Sci-Fi element that delights.

There's also the over exaggerated bashing of last years model (by the faithful themselves) which is labeled as laggy, or worse. Criticisms that were hypocritically denied prior to the new models release.

My real world experience with Apple, both reveals and proves that newer is not always better.


i suggest you pick up the 6S again and compare the 2 correctly, the S line for this particular rotation has blow the 6 out of the water.
 
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I thought the 6 plus and 6S plus battery life was the same or better? I only have a 6S plus so wouldn't know if the 6 Plus has worse battery life

I noticed that 6S+ drains a bit faster when browsing the net. Standby is about the same
 
From all the S variants we've had so far, for me the 6 S-line has far been the weakest. Apple has also hit a glass ceiling in terms of smartphone hardware like Samsung two years ago. They will definitely enable wireless charging next or the year after.

As for me I have not decided to upgrade to 6S plus from my 6 plus - purely due to the weight and thickness. I've been using Android phablets since Note 2 and one thing that matters a lot for a big phone is weight and thinness. I'll wait and see what the new 7 brings next year

I don't think they have really head a glass ceiling with hardware... people have said that before yet technology continues to get faster and faster. I think they may be near the point where a user can't really tell the difference between the speed differences. But, they will continue to add to the software, and that will persist the need to improve the hardware.

As for the weight and thickness differences being so great that you wouldn't be able to use it, I think you'd be hard pressed to pick the two up on different days with a blindfold and tell which was which. I moved from a Galaxy S5 to the 6S Plus, and after a couple of days it isn't a big deal... so the difference between the 6 Plus to 6S Plus would be a rounding error (to me).
 
I suppose that's where I take some amount of umbrage with your post. You mentioned that you put it in such a way that it was for your use, but part of your statement somewhat contradicts that based on the wording.


You call them gimmicks and state that their benefit is their exclusivity to Apple, and by virtue of the fact that you only stated this one benefit can lead people to interpret that as being its only benefit, though to your credit you never say that explicitly.

I can understand that it isn't for you and that's fine, you're entitled to that opinion and I will fully admit that it's not necessarily useful for all people. However, there are those that find it useful and it doesn't necessarily detract from their experience nor slow them down. Personally, I enjoy 3D Touch on my 6s Plus even though I have never used the Force Touch "Peek and Pop" function on my Retina MacBook's Trackpad.


In other words, I agree whole-heartedly with your above statement, except that I would extend that to a general statement about a good many things aside from just Apple.:p
Anyone can parse words
Over analyze & be critical.
Often that's a sign that others thoughts values and experiences are of no value to the closed minded narcissistic person.

i suggest you pick up the 6S again and compare the 2 correctly, the S line for this particular rotation has blow the 6 out of the water.
My Primary smartphone, a terrific ultra reliable fast and highly useful Nexus 6 puts my wife's iPhone 6S Plus to shame.

It's a simple as that.
 
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Anyone can parse words
Over analyze & be critical.
Often that's a sign that others thoughts values and experiences are of no value to the closed minded narcissistic person.


My Primary smartphone, a terrific ultra reliable fast and highly useful Nexus 6 puts my wife's iPhone 6S Plus to shame.

It's a simple as that.

So you enjoy using your Nexus 6 and I'm sure your wife enjoys her iPhone 6S+. Hooray for everyone's happiness being subjective to their own personal experience.
 
Funny how that was not the case when it was introduced. Back then, the 5s was being called a steaming pile compared to the 6/6+.

The last iPhone is always a steaming pile compared to the new release. Some things never change around here.

lol you hit the nail on the head. This thread is so humorous to read if you ever followed the threads last year regarding RAM and powering the large display. People would argue to a fault that the 6+ wasn't under spec'd and that people were just making up issues to complain. Now everyone seems to have jumped on the "crippled from the start" bandwagon. People have short memories around here.
 
lol you hit the nail on the head. This thread is so humorous to read if you ever followed the threads last year regarding RAM and powering the large display. People would argue to a fault that the 6+ wasn't under spec'd and that people were just making up issues to complain. Now everyone seems to have jumped on the "crippled from the start" bandwagon. People have short memories around here.

Love the over generalizations here.

I, for one, was not all that pleased when the iPhone 6 was introduced. It was clear to me that it was an under spec'd phone upon launch; I wasn't one of those people saying "1GB RAM IS ENOUGH." I found it somewhat inadequate on my 5s, but I never though it was a steaming pile of slowness either. I eagerly anticipated the 6s and its performance improvements.
 
Love the over generalizations here.

I, for one, was not all that pleased when the iPhone 6 was introduced. It was clear to me that it was an under spec'd phone upon launch; I wasn't one of those people saying "1GB RAM IS ENOUGH." I found it somewhat inadequate on my 5s, but I never though it was a steaming pile of slowness either. I eagerly anticipated the 6s and its performance improvements.

Last year, many vehemently denied any under spec'd issue in various threads. This year, many seem to claim the phone indeed was under spec'd. I'm not calling anyone out or doing any fact checking, so this is definitely anecdotal and a generalization, but there seems to have been an attitude shift on the matter.
 
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So you enjoy using your Nexus 6 and I'm sure your wife enjoys her iPhone 6S+. Hooray for everyone's happiness being subjective to their own personal experience.
It would be easy to overlook what our preferences are in a huge forum like this. But as expressed in some of my prior posts, my position has always been to embrace whatever tech devices fit our personal needs.
 
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