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I think I saw a UFO!!!!
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THANK YOU! i don't feel so insane anymore. not to discredit you but its funny how its always individuals who see UFO's... but oh no! some weeks back me and a mate were walking my dog. it was about 11pm and therefore dark. no clouds in the sky at all. then we saw this plane. at least we though it was. it had 2 lights and was flying overhead, it turned and my mate said "wouldn't it be funny if that was a plane?" (inside joke, we used to get stars+planes mixed up as kids)... then he said "****! its vanishing!" i looked up and the lights were dimming as they grew smaller. we both saw this strange thing... maybe even my dog!
whats stranger still is that ever since a lightning storm some months back, this tree appeared. well its always been there but lightning must have hit it and it resembles a rabbits head now. ever since then people have been talking about strange goings on in the area.
my dad also saw a UFO one morning. he doesn't believe in aliens (or he didnt?), god or anything other than what he sees in real life. but one morning he swore he saw something strange. these silent lights in the sky that danced around before flying off.
seriously i dont usually believe in aliens. i dont know what to think anymore.
whats stranger still is that ever since a lightning storm some months back, this tree appeared. well its always been there but lightning must have hit it and it resembles a rabbits head now. ever since then people have been talking about strange goings on in the area.
my dad also saw a UFO one morning. he doesn't believe in aliens (or he didnt?), god or anything other than what he sees in real life. but one morning he swore he saw something strange. these silent lights in the sky that danced around before flying off.
seriously i dont usually believe in aliens. i dont know what to think anymore.
That and this crazy chip implanted in the back of my neck.jayscheuerle said:Any reason except for faith and failure of statistics class?
Not sure what statistics has to do with any of this, though. Any statistics we could apply would most likely only be based on that which we know and could somehow quantify.
Now, to be fair, I'm not a statistics guy in any real sense of the word, so I'd be curious as to how statistics would have predicted the variety of life that has existed on this planet, and how it would apply to life developing somewhere else.
LOL at iGary.
I have done so much acid I should be an alien.
But the only time I saw anything UFO like or had an OBE was before all that.
And never again since.
Belief overcomes perception easily in the human mind, I would be very suprised if there werent lots of things going on we ignore due to a failure to suspend disbelief and use our senses.
Light through breaking clouds is beautiful enough that a primitive mind would see it as God.
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I have done so much acid I should be an alien.
But the only time I saw anything UFO like or had an OBE was before all that.
And never again since.
Belief overcomes perception easily in the human mind, I would be very suprised if there werent lots of things going on we ignore due to a failure to suspend disbelief and use our senses.
Light through breaking clouds is beautiful enough that a primitive mind would see it as God.
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I'm not sure that I believe in spaceships from other planets.
On the other hand, if aliens really DO exist and they're already living here on earth, then that would resolve a lot of the questions I have about our president.
On the other hand, if aliens really DO exist and they're already living here on earth, then that would resolve a lot of the questions I have about our president.
jayscheuerle
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emw said:That and this crazy chip implanted in the back of my neck.
Not sure what statistics has to do with any of this, though. Any statistics we could apply would most likely only be based on that which we know and could somehow quantify.
Now, to be fair, I'm not a statistics guy in any real sense of the word, so I'd be curious as to how statistics would have predicted the variety of life that has existed on this planet, and how it would apply to life developing somewhere else.
Statistics tell us that though the chance of life developing elsewhere in the universe is high, and even intelligent life developing is high, the chance of us being visited by any of it is exceedingly low, mostly because of the vast distances between everything in the universe. The distance between planets and stars and galaxies is beyond most peoples' comprehension. Our assumption that superior civilizations have found a way around the basic laws of physics (like traveling faster than light) is based on desire and faith. The best chance that we have of ever being contacted by an alien civilization is via something like SETI, because information CAN travel at the speed of light, even if its creators cannot.
Here's an example of galactic size for you. Take a yellow bowling ball and set it down. Pace off about 26 steps and set down a peppercorn. This is Earth. Pace off another 974 steps and set down a poppyseed. This is Pluto. From well over a half mile away, our bowling ball sun looks pretty small. From Earth, we are around 500 light seconds from our sun. To our twelve closest stars, we average a distance of 8 light YEARS.
We might not be alone, but we may as well be..
Chaszmyr said:
To mess around with humans heads.
Other life forms do exist, however we as humans have the wrong image of them. The life forms might be small to the micro level, equal in size to humans or larger. Its impossible to know as we do not know what we are looking for. Any anything different than a human form does not count, look at the aliens in NYC.
Music_Producer said:
Wishful Thinking, cognitive bias, Schizoprenia, brain tumor, refraction, aurora(aurorae?), solar flare, Hallucination, mirage, floaters, top secret aircraft, etc., and (of course) a UFO. These are all possible rational explanations, the UFO is just the least likely of them
Ok sorry, I'm the town skeptic that's all
This is probably what you saw, it was visibile all the way out here in Phoenix:
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0922rocketlaunch-ON.html
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0922rocketlaunch-ON.html
I'm really interested in seeing the pics - but is this something you took the first time and didn't mention or is it a second sighting?
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jayscheuerle
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Is there any kind of reasoning as to why we believe that extra-terrestrials are smarter than humans? Surely someone has hypothesised that humans are the highest form of life in the Universe?
jayscheuerle
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.:*Robot Boy*:. said:
The reasoning is simple, life on earth began approximately 3.8 billion years ago. The universe is thought to be about 14 billion years old. Life could've started as much as 10.2 billion years earlier on another planet. 14 billion years of evolution can do wonders.
Thats the correct answer. I also dont think we could offer any civilization that was say a million years ahead of us much in the way of anything in technology,materials etc.floyde said:
Interesting subject and even more interesting that our govt dismisses it officially. Now wouldnt you think someone would be interested in things flying through our sky's that arent ours? The 50s had ufo's flying over the Whitehouse! Well documented.
jayscheuerle
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floyde said:
What this type of thinking doesn't take into account is the fact that evolution proceeds without purpose and just because something is at the top of the food chain does not mean it will be there forever. Dinosaurs ruled the earth for a hundred million years. We've been "ruling" it for less than 5,000 (though we've been here in present form longer). There's an assumption that we will continue to evolve, while we could just as easily stay the way we are or even be wiped out by something as simple as a virus.
The only honest answer is that we don't KNOW if there's intelligent life out there. We don't KNOW if we're the most intelligent beings ever. All we know for sure is that everything is very far apart and that no information has EVER been clocked moving faster than the speed of light.
floyde said:
Ok, so assuming that these other species/aliens/extra-terrestrials/whatever are more evolved than us, does that mean that they are more intelligent? Let's suppose that they are more civilised, and live in some kind of harmony with one another (I'm not a left-wing hippie-type, I swear), that doesn't necessarily mean that they are technologically advanced, does it?
It just seems to me that everyone who believes in aliens also believes that they are capable of traveling light-years through space, subverting the laws of physics, etc, etc.
Isn't it possible that these philosophised 'beings' may not live in the kind of environment that allows for any kind of creation. We rely on materials (metal, silicon, plastic, etc) to create things that we consider to be advanced technology. If these resources don't exist on other planets, how could any other species (highly advanced, or otherwise) be expected to create anything?
Just trying to provide some kind of antithesis to the tired "they're smarter than us" logic
At what point does evolution stop being a factor though. We're already at that cusp ourselves. Another century or two and genetic engineering could make for super strong, super intelligent, etc. humans. And add to that genetic memory, nano machines that read thoughts in the brain and allow for manipulation of objects and powered systems/computers just by thinking something.
There is a long way to go and if some other alien races have had eons to work this all out - we're still low on the food chain compared to others....
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There is a long way to go and if some other alien races have had eons to work this all out - we're still low on the food chain compared to others....
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