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thats a good point no one knows about the G sign... but even GPRS is better than bugger all.. WiFi will have to do I think :S ...
 
well, it had the E sign. what would come up if it was getting GPRS? i must have been a US iphone....does the it have a G sign?

See for yourself:
 

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yes, that's the photo we're already talking about.

Yes I know. I have just amended my post to change the image to a larger clearer version (if you click on it).

The point I was trying to demonstrate is that the o2 phone does not show any letters, only signal strength, but must have been operating on GPRS as a fallback from EDGE. No G.
 
Yes I know. I have just amended my post to change the image to a larger clearer version (if you click on it).

The point I was trying to demonstrate is that the o2 phone does not show any letters, only signal strength, but must have been operating on GPRS as a fallback from EDGE.

t-mobile are saying pretty firmly that they have no EDGE to speak of. and those two iphones in the picture are not identical. one is a UK iphone and one is, presumably, a US iphone.

so we are speculating that the US iphone is displaying an E sign even though it is not detecting EDGE. this is just speculation ...so my earlier question was what would A US IPHONE show if it was just picking up GPRS. which question is not answered by looking at the photo.
 
t-mobile are saying pretty firmly that they have no EDGE to speak of.

According to other posters on these forums, most of the networks in the UK have some EDGE coverage albeit fairly minimal, and supposedly T-Mobile have EDGE coverage in London. If this is accurate information, the E on the hacked iPhone may be a true indication of the signal received.

...so my earlier question was what would A US IPHONE show if it was just picking up GPRS. which question is not answered by looking at the photo.

In this particular respect aren't the U.K. and U.S. phones likely to show the same symbol if they are operating on GPRS as opposed to EDGE.
 
According to other posters on these forums, most of the networks in the UK have some EDGE coverage albeit fairly minimal, and supposedly T-Mobile have EDGE coverage in London. If this is accurate information, the E on the hacked iPhone may be a true indication of the signal received.



In this particular respect aren't the U.K. and U.S. phones likely to show the same symbol if they are operating on GPRS as opposed to EDGE.

yes, it could be that there is t-mobile EDGE in london. so it could be that the E was a true indication as you say.

as to whether the UK and US phones are likely to behave in the same way, i have no idea. so i thought it was easier to ask what does the US phone display when there is no EDGE available.

basically, i'm quite keen to find out just how much (if any) t-mobile EDGE there is in london. my nokia (on t-mobile) just displays G whether it is picking up GPRS or EDGE so that doesn't help me test t-mobile EDGE coverage.
 
Seems to me like that and the lack of any future firmware are stopping me getting the iPhone and using it on T-Mo. Not even having EDGE is a pretty serious flaw for me. 25% coverage is better than quite possibly bugger all coverage.
 
Which other networks have any EDGE coverage? Orange have some don't they? Unfortunately, I don't think they have any unlimited data option..
 
yeah, orange have EDGE.

I can't find any details about how much they charge for data usage anywhere. It must be **** I guess.. I don't want to **** around paying per MB for internet access.. unlimited or nothing I think - so looks like no go on Orange.
 
Sananda, I managed to look at the User Manual online. Here is the relevant part about screen symbols on the U.S. phone. There appears to be no symbol for GPRS.
 

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E shows up even for GPRS.

CD3660, the o2 phone pictured shows no E symbol as it is using WiFi.

Only Orange and o2 have EDGE capable networks within the UK.
 
Also from the UK and want to get ether the iPod Touch or iPhone.

So far the best method seems to be buying the phone in the UK from Apple when it's out and not signing 02's contract but instead unlock the phone to use with any SIM.

Any flaw in this plan (apart from the fact that we don't know if the new firmware can be unlocked yet) ?
 
t mobile do have some EDGE covrage, like all networks in the UK tho it is limited.. Dont listen to their customer service as I have spoken to 3 of them now, all of which have defferred the question to the "tech" team and all of them seem to think EDGE is the step up from 3G??

Baffling!
 
E shows up even for GPRS.

CD3660, the o2 phone pictured shows no E symbol as it is using WiFi.

Only Orange and o2 have EDGE capable networks within the UK.

I think you're right. The others might have *some* EDGE but nothing to talk about really. And as Orange don't seem to offer any kind of decent data plan.. Might have to be the official way for me.. :( Shame its such an incredible rip off.
 
CD3660, the o2 phone pictured shows no E symbol as it is using WiFi.

This could well explain it!

As you can see from the manual (below), the phone connects to the internet by using wi-fi if it possibly can, and if it can't, then by EDGE.

The o2 iPhone in the photo is connected via wi-fi as can be seen from the relevant symbol.
 

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I'm coming round to this way of thinking.

It costs, but it saves a lot of potential headaches and guarantees you full functionality. Assuming that you can get a signal!

Haha yeah. Exactly what I'm thinking. Think a lot of people will probably end up coming to the same conclusion.
 
I'm coming round to this way of thinking.

It costs, but it saves a lot of potential headaches and guarantees you full functionality. Assuming that you can get a signal!

I don't agree the price plan is just truly terrible, also by what apple and Vodafone have said I reckon we will see a 3G iPhone in 2008 which 02 won't have exclusive rights to and with Vodaphone's good 3G coverage I think they will be a top runners for it.
 
What i'm really curious about is how the migration from one network to another is going to work...i'm switching from Orange on Nov 9th, will the iTunes activation take care of transferring my number to the iPhone?
 
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