IBM and 45nm Chip Development

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IBM and Toppan Printing Co Ltd announced a $200 million deal to jointly develop a 45-nanometer chip making process aimed at production by mid-2007.

Specifically, the companies hope to develop a photomask process, which would be used to etch patterns of integrated circuits onto silicon wafers, to enable early production of advanced 45nm semiconductors.
IBM's PowerPC 970 was initially produced at a 130-nm manufacturing process while 90nm based PowerMacs were introduced in June 2004. Poor 90nm production yields has been cited for delays in PowerPC shipments and development.

Smaller manufacturing processes typically increase clock-speeds and decrease costs for the processors.
 

GFLPraxis

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Absolutely awesome.

How much do you want to bet that somehow, SOME moron will find a way to vote this as "negative"?
 

poundsmack

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i wonder why they skipped 65? IBM did not have to much luck getting frmo 130 to 90. this is a big difference. i hope they can do it and do it well.

i wonder what the speed they are going for is
 

quagmire

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stephenli said:
true! where is our 3.0Ghz G5?!
My special 8 ball widget says that the 970MP is the processor that will break the 3 Ghz barrier! :p Thinksecret reports the 970MP will be at 3 Ghz with its little sister the single core 970GX.
 

mvc

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2007 eh? Guess that'll be good for the xbox720 & PS4 so they can get to 8GHz. G5's will probably still be stuck on 90nm running at 2.9 GHz :p
 

GFLPraxis

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pontecorvo said:
Are you calling Lost Packet a moron? Not too cool dude...it's just a chip!
No no no. Not calling anyone specific a moron. I'm just saying that, as with any article, SOMEONE will find a way to say that higher clock speed, decreased costs, and a 45nm process is entirely negative. I have NEVER seen an MR article without at least one vote for negative. Look at the main page. There are already 15 votes for positive and one vote for negative.
 

l008com

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GFLPraxis said:
LOL!

Of course, to compete Intel will offer a 3.99999999 GHz machine.
Yeah but it will come with windows, so that will eat up 3.9 of those GHz, and your left with a ~100MHz computer
 

Dippo

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Doesn't 65nm come after 90nm.

If all of the other chip makers can make 90nm chip without a problem then why can't IBM make them well for Apple. I think it's BS, there is another reason for G5 problems and it's not 90nm.

And I'm waiting till mid-2007 for the 3Ghz G5....
 

Stella

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IBMs efforts so far with G5 processors has been quite disappointing.

This is a few years off though...
 

~Shard~

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Stella said:
IBMs efforts so far with G5 processors has been quite disappointing.
Yes, but the industry as a whole has hit a wall, so don't solely blame IBM. Intel and AMD haven't exactly made great strides in 90nm country either...
 

notjustjay

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Canada, eh?
If 90nm isn't working out, why would 45 be any better?

Isn't that kinda like saying "Well, we've been having trouble fitting 9 clowns into this Volkswagen, but don't worry, we're working on getting 15 in there now"?
 

shen

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notjustjay said:
If 90nm isn't working out, why would 45 be any better?

Isn't that kinda like saying "Well, we've been having trouble fitting 9 clowns into this Volkswagen, but don't worry, we're working on getting 15 in there now"?
actually, i think that is more like saying "so we are going to get 15 clowns in this toolbox instead."

....what is scary, is i bet they do it!
 

Xtremehkr

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Good news!

I bet the Intel thing was just a ruse.

I hope it doesn't take long for production to start churning out new chips.
 

Mr. Anderson

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dmw007 said:
Does this mean a 3GHz+ G5 is finally in the works?
ha, sure, by 2007 we'll get them!

I can't really get excited about this, though. So they're planning to plan on this one, great. Lets see them deliver what they've already promised....

D
 

mvc

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shen said:
actually, i think that is more like saying "so we are going to get 15 clowns in this toolbox instead."

....what is scary, is i bet they do it!
Might work if you cremate the 15 clowns first. ;)

That approach might raise some other problems though.
 

mvc

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AidenShaw said:
3.0 GHz G5 Powerbook Next Tuesday ™
That's great Aidenshaw, now that you have trademarked that phrase, can you please make sure no one ever, ever, ever, uses it ever again?

Please.

And if they do sue them all ;)