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Are they getting the reach around discount? I seriously doubt that IBM is willing to pony up the roughly $300 premium over a Windows laptop -- makes no sense.

Makes perfect sense if you are developing software and services for a mixed platform environment, which most businesses are now.
 
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Are they getting the reach around discount? I seriously doubt that IBM is willing to pony up the roughly $300 premium over a Windows laptop -- makes no sense.

Why would it be a "reach around discount"? Companies sell products to each other at substantial discounts all the time. Hell, my Dad works for AT&T and gets better Apple hardware discounts than the local reps.
 
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Its just a tool. The notebook has little to do with anything else esp culture!

I think it has a great deal to do with culture. Buying Macs for its employees means the company isn't making decisions solely based on cost - it means quality of the tool is also an important consideration. It indicates that might extend to other stuff. Are they buying the cheap office chairs, the best ergonomic chairs? Will they pay for an expensive standing desk? Are they willing to spend money on employee outtings? How willing a company is to open their wallet for the comfort and convenience of employees is a big part of culture.

That culture isn't necessary good for everyone. I know plenty of people who thing that kind of stuff is frivolous and useless and they would rather have higher salaries or stock options than expensive company culture.

Further, as difficult as it is to quantify, there is definitely a "type" of person who prefers Macs, and thus the leadership of that company or the people in charge of making purchasing decisions are that type.
 
It makes sense. Apple has been very strait forward with the OS. The only painful change was from OS9 to X. While Microsoft has been jumping that fence with the release of every Windows version. I am not blind about Apple, I believe is doing a disaster when pretending to innovate but regarding computing reliability Apple is Apple.
 
I think it has a great deal to do with culture. Buying Macs for its employees means the company isn't making decisions solely based on cost - it means quality of the tool is also an important consideration. It indicates that might extend to other stuff. Are they buying the cheap office chairs, the best ergonomic chairs? Will they pay for an expensive standing desk? Are they willing to spend money on employee outtings? How willing a company is to open their wallet for the comfort and convenience of employees is a big part of culture.

That culture isn't necessary good for everyone. I know plenty of people who thing that kind of stuff is frivolous and useless and they would rather have higher salaries or stock options than expensive company culture.

Further, as difficult as it is to quantify, there is definitely a "type" of person who prefers Macs, and thus the leadership of that company or the people in charge of making purchasing decisions are that type.

I'm sorry you're wrong IMO.
I work in the valley and the way you are linking things together just says nothing.

Firstly the culture would be "we allow our employees to choose" if they force a mac or a PC that says more about the style of company than anything else could ever do..

People who pick a mac over PCs are not better or worse "type" than anyone else in the same way if you pick a black car over a white one, its just plain arrogance to suggest otherwise. This is fanboy stuff.
 
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Things have come full circle.
 
Microsoft is in deep. They haven't had a solid OS since XP, with the minor exception of Windows 7. Businesses need reliability and buying cheap foreign hardware only makes the problem worse. Unless they change course...quick, Microsoft is headed for irrelevancy and the new war will be between OS X and whatever Google comes up for a desktop Android OS.

IBM is jumping the windows ship. They are perfectly on time to be solid OS X by the time Microsoft files for Chapter 11.

Nothing is going to happen with Microsoft, they'll be okay with Windows 10, which I already considered as one of the best OS releases they've done.

Microsoft has a consistent track record of producing very good OS releases after a bad one. ME > XP, 7 > Vista, 10 > 8.

I actually prefer Windows 10 to Yosemite right now, it's faster, more stable and just lighter. El Cap is catching up but still a lot of glitches after 4 DBs.
 
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I think it has a great deal to do with culture. Buying Macs for its employees means the company isn't making decisions solely based on cost - it means quality of the tool is also an important consideration. It indicates that might extend to other stuff. Are they buying the cheap office chairs, the best ergonomic chairs? Will they pay for an expensive standing desk? Are they willing to spend money on employee outtings? How willing a company is to open their wallet for the comfort and convenience of employees is a big part of culture.

That culture isn't necessary good for everyone. I know plenty of people who thing that kind of stuff is frivolous and useless and they would rather have higher salaries or stock options than expensive company culture.

Further, as difficult as it is to quantify, there is definitely a "type" of person who prefers Macs, and thus the leadership of that company or the people in charge of making purchasing decisions are that type.
Having just come off a 4 year tenure at IBM, The company is the cheapest of the cheap. They are a terrible company to work for and I guarantee you buying some Macs is not going to change the culture there. I seriously don't know how IBM still has the respect of the industry that they do. They are one of these companies that everyone looks up to as an example of how to be when the reality is they are a bunch of chickens running around with their heads cut off behind the scenes. None of the departments talk, they stiff their employees every chance they get so the executives get the bigger bonuses and they are the epitome of an 'Old Boys Club'. And I'm not a bitter ex-employee because I got fired, I gave notice and left on my own terms for a much better job and company. Ugh, I could go on for hours about how bad IBM is. But... /rant
 
I'm sorry you're wrong IMO.
I work in the valley and the way you are linking things together just says nothing.

Firstly the culture would be "we allow our employees to choose" if they force a mac or a PC that says more about the style of company than anything else could ever do..

People who pick a mac over PCs are not better or worse "type" than anyone else in the same way if you pick a black car over a white one, its just plain arrogance to suggest otherwise. This is fanboy stuff.

I never said one type was "better" or "worse" - of course that's incorrect. I just there is a type. Some people prefer one type, another prefer the other type, and some prefer a third type. No one is wrong or right.

As for culture, "we allow our employees to choose" is one culture choice. Getting Macs for everyone is another culture choice. Getting Thinkpads for everyone is another culture choice. Getting Dells for everyone is another culture choice. It's not that one is culture and another isn't. It's about choosing what kind of culture you want to work in.

For example, I doubt the type of company that leases Dell laptops for it's employees would also hang Andy Warhol prints in the hallways. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems a company that delegates the choice of primary tool to an outside company and chooses the lowest-immediate-cost option wouldn't spend much time thinking about frivolous decorations for it's employees.
 
I think it has a great deal to do with culture. Buying Macs for its employees means the company isn't making decisions solely based on cost - it means quality of the tool is also an important consideration. It indicates that might extend to other stuff. Are they buying the cheap office chairs, the best ergonomic chairs? Will they pay for an expensive standing desk? Are they willing to spend money on employee outtings? How willing a company is to open their wallet for the comfort and convenience of employees is a big part of culture.

That culture isn't necessary good for everyone. I know plenty of people who thing that kind of stuff is frivolous and useless and they would rather have higher salaries or stock options than expensive company culture.

Further, as difficult as it is to quantify, there is definitely a "type" of person who prefers Macs, and thus the leadership of that company or the people in charge of making purchasing decisions are that type.

No kidding. I used to have to have this discussion over and over with clients. When you're talking in terms how much an employee costs, these kinds of tools are peanuts by comparison. Trying to save a hundred or two (or even a thousand), if it will in any way hamper the productivity of that employee, is just plain insanity.

The problem was typically that the decision was being made by completely separate departments, each responsible for their own spreadsheets. IT departments are notorious for this... only considering the IT budget and not the impact on employees or even the customers of the company. Once you look holistically at the situation, it's a whole different picture.
 
I actually prefer Windows 10 to Yosemite right now, it's faster, more stable and just lighter. El Cap is catching up but still a lot of glitches after 4 DBs.

I'm still waiting for 10 on bootcamp, but even with 8.1 (Which I'm not very fond of) it runs on the 500gb spinner that yosemite was choking on and in fact is as fast on it as yosemite is on the ssd I had to install to even run it. If I like 10 enough I will drop osx for it. Still to be seen though.
 
This is all about bad news for Microsoft. Unless IBM plans on installing Windows 10 on their shiny new Apple hardware. Would they???

They might. I used to work for a Fortune 100 where all the upper execs were supplied, from the IT department, with Macbook Pros running Windows. And, that IT department typically hated Apple... it was a reliability and form-factor thing.
 
You'd be surprised who uses Dell.

When i worked for GlaxoSmithKline - they used Dell, They had a dedicated art gallery.. Just saying, the real world doesn't work the way you described or want.
 
I wonder, is this the time I can finally dream of a future without MS office and Windows?

Especially Excel? I mean, why isn't there any decent alternative out there! What kind of creepy agreement does Apple have with MS? it's 15 years ago dammit!
 
People who pick a mac over PCs are not better or worse "type" than anyone else in the same way if you pick a black car over a white one, its just plain arrogance to suggest otherwise. This is fanboy stuff.

Well, not the people... but having spent years in corporate IT, there is a lot of bias in many companies... which, IMO, does actually say something. If you're a forward-thinking enough company to see the big picture, and not just let a bunch of IT-yahoos make decisions based on *their* budget about the employee productivity of the entire company, yes, that says something.

And, while it's true that one OS or the other isn't always the best for a particular job-duty, there are actual criteria that can be employed to figure it out (there were bunches of studies back in the day, which most companies simply ignored). I'm not sure 'pick your favorite' is the best solution either. I suppose you gain familiarity and the employee likes that kind of power, but it's no guarantee they will choose wisely.
 
Big mistake. When they realize what a CPU-clogging clusterfrack OS X has become they'll go running back to Windows.

As opposed to the disk-clogging fragmentedfrack Windows with NTFS is. Or is is the registry clogged, bugged like a bait-shop and forced video ads with Ancient Solitaire or pay $10 a year forever to avoid them frack? Or is it the buggered with Malware frack so you need to constantly run and update virus-fracks with forced system updates to constantly reboot and frack the frickety-frack your day up? I dunno, I get the three so confused. Oh wait. They're all the same thing! It's called Windows 10! ;)
 
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