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iBooks 1.2.1 Detects Some Jailbreaks, Disables iBookstore Purchases in Response

Why don't those jailbreaking dingleberries go to the Android platform if they just want to diddle with their iPhones. I can understand them thinking that the iPhone is a toy to play with but then they shouldn't complain if Apple tries to block them from accessing certain things. If users are going to tinker with their products and I fully understand why they do it, just don't expect the manufacturer to give you its blessings. That's just plain common sense. :p
 
This doesn't make any sense. Why would Apple discourage and make it harder to legally purchase and view books in their store? Does jailbreakingreally cause that much of a headache for Apple that they think it's worth it to lose legal iBooks customers?
 
BruiserBear said:
I'm sure most people who jailbreak don't pay for their books anyways, so I doubt they care.


I'd love to see Apple implement a similar feature for the entire OS though.
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Jailbreaking isn't synonymous with piracy.

That's like saying a person who installs a spoiler on his car must love stealing cars.
 
BruiserBear said:
I'm sure most people who jailbreak don't pay for their books anyways, so I doubt they care.


I'd love to see Apple implement a similar feature for the entire OS though.
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God I hate when people like you make huge assumptions like that. I've been jailbreaking for years and have never once stolen a song, app, book or anything. I use it so i can have more access to the device I spent a lot of my hard earned money on. I know there's a ton of people out there who do steal and pirate... but don't lump everyone who jailbreaks into that category!!!
 
I have a 3GS running 4.2.1, jailbroken with redsn0w and ibooks works fine. I am guessing this must be limited to greenpois0n.
 
Sad. I jailbreak cause I need to unlock for my carrier, otherwise I wouldn't.
 
shen said:
Seriously, if you bought iBooks thinking that a jailbreak wouldn't be an issue later, you might not understand what companies that want to protect content will try to do. This isn't rocket surgery.

You have a choice, play in the system and get the benefits of that system, play outside the system and get the benefits of that choice. Thinking you can get the benefits without the costs just shows you might not be that bright...
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LOL. You use the term "rocket surgery" and then accuse others of not being that bright. The cold hand of irony smacks another one.
 
Apple one more shows they are the enemy of the consumer. I'm sure the Kool-aid set will be here shorty to tell us how great this is and any criticism of Apple is an effort to 'troll'.

Its been a sad couple of years, where Apple has in-effect declared war on its customer base that does not follow lock step with their edicts. I guess we will have to, once more, bow down at the Alter of Steve Jobs if we want to access our LEGALLY purchased content.

Woe to anyone who challenges them.
 
Centient said:
Look at this way, Apple just did you a favor. Seriously, you'll be wondering why you didn't switch to Kindle sooner.
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Oh, I have - Kindle 3 and all. :) I bought some iBooks initially on my iPad. They do look nicer than Kindle books, so I may have occasionally purchased a few more if not for this.
 
jlmitnick said:
This doesn't make any sense. Why would Apple discourage and make it harder to legally purchase and view books in their store? Does jailbreakingreally cause that much of a headache for Apple that they think it's worth it to lose legal iBooks customers?
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I'm guessing if Apple can't reassure publishers that it can protect iBooks content, they'll be less keen on the platform. They might not have much of a choice.
 
rwilliams said:
I said this in another thread - it's really s****y of Apple to allow you to purchase iBooks content on your jailbroken device and then block you from using it. If they're going to take this approach to dealing with jailbroken devices, then the right thing to do is to disable you from being able to buy their books in the first place. Otherwise, they're taking your money and then denying you access to content that you legally purchased, and that is extremely low of Apple.
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Apple isn't denying you of anything. It's telling you what you can do to gain access to your purchases. Reset your device back to standard configuration. Too difficult to figure out, huh?
 
thompson11 said:
No, actually, there is no difference. Maybe morally, or ethically, or "what Apple SHOULD do", but not legally.
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Maybe you're ok with Sony installing rootkits to your computer too, but the point is aggressive counter-piracy measures only force the general consumer's hand to resort to piracy - which makes things more convenient for them to consume content (and cheaper).

You can look at the software, music, and movie industries for examples of whether anti piracy measures are effective (they're not), and whether they annoy legitimate consumers (they do).

If you read comex's twitter feed, he already has an idea of which function to patch. Installing Comex's patch from Cydia is about as easy as installing stuff from the App Store. Introducing this irritation has bought Apple no additional security, and only the ire of some of its consumers using a legal modification to their device.

It's great, keep it up.
 
OrangeSVTguy said:
So it's only a matter of time before Apple implements this JB checker in all their apps. [:(] I don't JB anymore since I'm no longer on Tmobile.
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Yeah, they're just testing the waters here. Depending on the uproar they'll roll it out across all (Apple) apps.
 
I JB my phone just to use padnet to share out my unlimited 3G on a non-JB iPad. I didn't know this stuff was going on, since books are not easily read on the phone. But still. I've paid for my books, and if I want to read them on a JB product I should be able to.

This seems like a case of two wrongs trying to make a right.
 
Constable Odo said:
Apple isn't denying you of anything. It's telling you what you can do to gain access to your purchases. Reset your device back to standard configuration. Too difficult to figure out, huh?
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Don't be an ass. How about Apple informing their users of these new methods before taking their money?
 
pbateman said:
Good thing I use the Kindle app....
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This.

Dunno what Apple was expecting to happen. It's not going to make anyone remove their jailbreak; it's going to either:

(A) make jailbreakers revert to an older version of iBooks

or

(B) make jailbreakers switch to Kindle, thus losing sales

In addition to fostering ill will. Look at Sony; the PS3 remained the least-hacked system for two years, and allowed a very limited degree of system modifications since you could install Linux through OtherOS. Hackers, meanwhile, would hack the Wii and XBox 360 just to let them do stuff like install Linux, and then other people would build off that work for piracy.

Hackers found a way to develop homebrew using OtherOS...and then Sony, worried it might eventually lead to Piracy, removed the OtherOS option.

The angry hackers whom Sony removed functionality from then paid attention and had the PS3 completely hacked and able to run anything (pirated software included) in short order, and far worse than the other systems have been hacked.

Pity they haven't learned their lesson yet.
 
Full of Win said:
Its been a sad couple of years, where Apple has in-effect declared war on its customer base that does not follow lock step with their edicts. I guess we will have to, once more, bow down at the Alter of Steve Jobs if we want to access our LEGALLY purchased content.
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I'm not defending the move in this story, but isn't complaining about what you can do with DRM'd material so very 2004?

You know who doesn't have a problem with this story? People who didn't buy books with DRM.

I buy lots of music from iTunes now that it's open. I still don't buy movies or books. Haven't we all learned this by now? This story really shouldn't be an issue for any of us here.
 
I really do not see how this is not illegal on Apple's part. If a court gives someone the right to do something and someone interferes with that legal action there is usually consequences.
 
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