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No, actually, there is no difference. Maybe morally, or ethically, or "what Apple SHOULD do", but not legally.
Oh yes, there is a difference legally, for most illegal acts there is a difference whether you do them intentionally or unintentionally.
 
Well people can say "well you sign your rights away...." blah blah blah.

There is still a little support for the people over corporations in this nation. If this turns out to be a way to challenge the ruling that people have the right to jailbreak, I think it will go in the people's favor in the end. It might take some time though.

Lets hope that's not what's going on and Apple fixes this.

Of course isn't this what the jail break community is about? Shouldn't there be a patch coming along to enable the ibooks again anyway? Better be careful how that's coded for legal purposes...

And don't go all black and white on this issue. That's another problem with today's society. Everyone joins a team and its group think strategy. I've been called an Apple fanboy many times.
 
who the **** would rate this story positive? steve clones?

I would, and in fact, I did. This is Apple doing to the jail breakers exactly what the jail breakers did to Apple. It's a classic case of cat and mouse. Apple said they don't want users jail breaking their devices. The consumers won on a technicality. Apple is fighting back on a technicality.
 
Why so surprised

I think Apple made it clear that jailbreaking is up to you but things will not work the way they were intended to after that.

It's same thing if you buy customized third party parts for any car, the car manufacturer will not repair any damage. It's legal, but you're on your own.
 
I'm guessing if Apple can't reassure publishers that it can protect iBooks content, they'll be less keen on the platform. They might not have much of a choice.
The protection Apple has implemented is a single line of code?
comex said:
It seems that before opening a DRMed book, iBooks drops an improperly signed binary, tries to execute it, and if it works concludes that the device is jailbroken and refuses to open the book.

This is what the binary does:

int main() {
return 42;
}

Quite reassuring indeed..
 
What happens when they apply this method of JB detection to the iPod app, or even say the Phone app? :eek:

Since those apps can't be updated (at the moment) out of band, JB'er will just modify the jailbreak to report what the App is looking for. Thus creating a game of Cat and Mouse.
 
I love apple products... but it seems like the company is resembling a socialist democracy :(

Sigh. A socialist demoracy is far better than Apple's tightly closed ecosystem. Your probably thinking of some other type of system.
 
Same thing here. Guess they don't want me to buy them but steal them instead? Ok...

If you're gonna steal, then you're gonna steal. Don't blame Apple for your dishonesty. When I pirate software, I don't need an excuse. I do it because I want to not because I'm forced to or can't afford to pay. It's sad to admit but that's what it basically comes down to. ;)
 
Personally, I'm all for Apple cracking down on jailbreaking. I'm sure this will piss off a bunch of people, but when my 10-year-old son tells me about his friend who jailbroke his iPod and can do all this "really great stuff" with it, I think it's time for Apple to do something. Otherwise they may as well throw out all the parental controls and app vetting etc. that they do. In the hands of experienced computer users jailbreaking can be a useful thing, but when it becomes so simple that even the kids are doing it, it raises a whole bunch of security issues and other concerns.

Unfortunately some of the most "experienced computer users" are kids.
 
And this is exactly why I switched to Android this week. I simply can't support a company who does things like this.
 
Sigh. A socialist demoracy is far better than Apple's tightly closed ecosystem.

Exactly. So many people are brainwashed into thinking any social programs are bad. The rich enjoy them. They never bring up the social programs they benefit from in political discourse.
 
Sigh...far better than Apple's tightly closed ecosystem.

Are you insane? Apple has every right to rule with an iron fist over the services that they provide to devices that they've sold. So the government says that they can't lock down devices that a consumer has purchased because the consumer now owns the hardware. But Apple can do whatever they want with software services that they provide to that hardware.

If you don't like it, don't buy Apple products. Free market.
 
I think Comex already has a fix for this issue and will apply it to the 4.3 jailbreak. If that happens, you can be sure that Apple will update iBooks again soon thereafter - jailbreakers just need to avoid it like the plague.
 
Oh yes, there is a difference legally, for most illegal acts there is a difference whether you do them intentionally or unintentionally.

Yes, but the underlying act here isn't illegal no matter how you cut it. The Copyright Office determination regarding DMCA exemptions ≠ "any attempt to prevent/discourage jailbreaking is illegal". It just means that you, the end-user, cannot be liable under the DMCA for the act of jailbreaking.
 
I would, and in fact, I did. This is Apple doing to the jail breakers exactly what the jail breakers did to Apple. It's a classic case of cat and mouse. Apple said they don't want users jail breaking their devices. The consumers won on a technicality. Apple is fighting back on a technicality.

But why:confused::confused:

Why not go after pirated apps? Itunes can tell the difference, thats why thieves have to deleate the old apps and redown load the newest cracked apps. Why not go after them, look for installius, leave the rest of us that buy legit apple and 3rd party apps alone.

I get them voiding the warrenty, we are taking a chance they dont want to cover but to blocked paid content when they could go after the people actually getting cracked apps?!?!
 
Two possible outcomes to this:

1) People restore their jailbroken iPhones, losing access to the apps (some paid) from Cydia, in order to read the book

2) People just pirate the book, and won't waste their time paying for more books in the future.


I wonder which option will be more popular.
 
But why:confused::confused:

Why not go after pirated apps? Itunes can tell the difference, thats why thieves have to deleate the old apps and redown load the newest cracked apps. Why not go after them, look for installius, leave the rest of us that buy legit apple and 3rd party apps alone.

I get them voiding the warrenty, we are taking a chance they dont want to cover but to blocked paid content when they could go after the people actually getting cracked apps?!?!


This is the next step...its gonna happen.
 
Surely Apple can't deny people use of their legally purchased content without suffering legal consequences?

Read the fine print about what you actually purchased. It wasn't content. It was limited rights, possibly to allow viewing on only non-hacked devices.

What happens when they apply this method of JB detection to the iPod app, or even say the Phone app?

Any app on hardware in your possession could potentially be modified by you.
 
Since using the greenpois0n jailbreak, I have been unable to open some of my iBooks that I rightfully purchased from the iBook Store.

Poor guy... he thought he purchased the rights to the copyright for $10.

What part of D "Rights Management" do people not understand?
 
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