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Trump's advisors helped a Russian campaign to elect Trump. His campaign manager was literally giving confidential polling data to oligarchs linked to the Kremlin. That's not collusion in your book?



They weren't "based upon the Dossier" and the warrants were, pardon the pun, absolutely warranted. The investigation was already underway and bits of the dossier about Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page (not Trump) were used in the warrant application. Page had attended high-level meetings with Russians during a trip to Europe, and Page was lying about it at the time. The Dossier noted that he had met with Russians (and was correct on that point). That's what was used in the warrant.

I certainly think it's worth of investigation that a a major-party Presidential candidate's foreign policy advisor, who years prior been suspected of being a Russian intelligence asset, was lying about meeting with a deputy Russian Prime Minister while working for said major-party Presidential candidate.

Finally, the FISA warrants of Page continued even after Trump was inaugurated. You know for a FISA warrant of an American citizen you have to show the judges you are collecting valuable information or otherwise they get shut down? Investigators went back to the court at least four times and demonstrated that they were collecting valuable information from the wiretap of Page. So it wasn't some sort of Obama fishing expedition.
Carter Page was never charged with a crime. Also the FBI made serious errors in its applications to the FISA court. Former FBI lawyer was convicted for altering an email that was part of the surveillance application process.
 
More FUD. They resulted in multiple guilty pleas (including Micheal Cohen).
Wrong. Cohen was convicted of lying to congress, not any degree of collusion. The convictions were procedural infractions, or guilty pleas due to illegal pressure on certain people (like illegally threatening to go after an accused's children). Four different investigations found ZERO evidence of any collusion, anywhere. It was all made up.
 
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Wrong. Cohen was convicted of lying to congress, not any degree of collusion. The convictions were procedural infractions, or guilty pleas due to illegal pressure on certain people (like illegally threatening to go after an accused's children). Four different investigations found ZERO evidence of any collusion, anywhere. It was all made up.
What was I wrong about? I never said anything about collusion. We were specifically discussing criminal referrals by the Mueller investigation. By definition, they are unrelated to the main investigation.
 
Citation needed, because according to my LLM there is *no* evidence of this whatsoever.
Another LLM says otherwise, and provides evidence:
Not speaking for the other poster, but the government didn't "ask". They, by their own statement, "demanded." After 3 months of the government pressuring Apple through the press to remove the app, the attorney general reached out to Apple, demanded that the app be removed, and it was removed the same day. Bondi: “We reached out to Apple today demanding they remove the ICEBlock app from their App Store – and Apple did so.”

Combined with their repeated tariff threats on Apple, there is certainly the appearance of coercion. In addition, the complaint details clear viewpoint discrimination in Bondi's statements about the app. Meanwhile, other apps that provide similar information about other LEO locations continue to be published on the App Store without issue. Apple Maps even allows reporting of speed traps.

Let’s stay on one topic. What leads you to the conclusion that the government asking a company to enforce their own policies is “unconstitutional.”
 
You should be appalled that the government is just rounding up law abiding citizens based on racial profiling and making them prove their innocence. If you aren't, then you are an enemy of the principles upon which this country was founded.
lol right, because the government is just rounding up random people. They don’t have any type of tips showing criminal history at all.
 
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love to see this! **** ICE
I mean ICE is helping get illegals out — illegal immigration is already out of control here in Germany.
That being said, I can see both side of this argument regarding the validity of removing the app. If it truly is a danger for ICE officials that would be a valid point. Also aiding and abetting would be a valid argument.
 
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Another LLM says otherwise, and provides evidence:
Perhaps you should try another LLM, or at least view the YouTube video before you link it here. Because that video doesn’t even mention ICEBlock. At all. So once again, as I said, if you want to say it has been used for purposes of violence toward law enforcement, prove it.
 
lol right, because the government is just rounding up random people. They don’t have any type of tips showing criminal history at all.
That’s literally what they’re doing. I know it’s hard to believe because this is America, but they really are.


Even the immigrants they are targeting are non-criminals:

Since January 20, ICE’s street enforcement efforts mainly targeted non-criminals. By early June, 79 percent of ICE’s weekly non-custodial arrests involved people with no criminal convictions—up 23 percentage points since January 20.

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There have been at least 170 such detentions, and probably more; they include *children*, including two with cancer.

170 out of how many?

Appeal to emotion is a logical fallacy for a reason.
 
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It is unheard of (with the exception of Kent State) that troops have ever opened fire on *any* protesters in this country, and it would have been 100% unnecessary even at the time. You are attempting to defend the indefensible.
Troops did not, in fact, open fire on protesters at Lafayette Square. There is nothing here to defend.
 
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If we are gonna ban ICE block on the premise that providing information about things occurring in public spaces is endangering a group of people, then we should also be banning neighborly, citizen, next door and other similar apps

This app developer is an idiot! The first amendment prevents the government from banning apps or restricting speech within them unless it falls into categories like incitement which this app absolutely does.

Apple App Store is a private entity so they set their rules to block apps.
You may have missed the point. If Apple was pressured by the government to pull the app, then there is certainly a case to be argued about a potential first amendment violation.

and yes, Apple can set their own rules, within reason (see anti competitive behavior), but there is no current rule that this developer violated. Still, if you believe they did violate one of Apple’s rules, then several other prominent apps violate it as well, yet they still exist.
 
Troops did not, in fact, open fire on protesters at Lafayette Square. There is nothing here to defend.
So you are, then, defending Trump’s desire to have troops open fire on them? Because earlier that is exactly what you did, on the grounds that the protesters were allegedly not peaceful. The only reason it didn’t happen is that his Secretary of Defense at the time objected – something that Hegseth is clearly unlikely to do if such circumstances arise again.
 
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170 out of how many?

Appeal to emotion is a logical fallacy for a reason.
171 now, at minimum (as the article I linked to pointed out, the number is almost certainly higher):

 
That claim of using an App to facilitate violence could be levied against basically any App.

Would we say this about map apps?
Communication apps?

There's no end to where that slope slides down to.
That’s a question you’ll have to ask Apple, as they specify that apps cannot lead to violence against a “targeted group or individual.”
Weird how your “evidence” doesn’t mention the app.
The claim was that there was no violence, because an LLM said so. I provided an example of violence provided by a different LLM.
Perhaps you should try another LLM, or at least view the YouTube video before you link it here. Because that video doesn’t even mention ICEBlock. At all. So once again, as I said, if you want to say it has been used for purposes of violence toward law enforcement, prove it.
Could you please provide evidence from your LLM?

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Let’s get back to the original questions: what leads you to the conclusion that the government asking a company to enforce their own policies is “unconstitutional”? Do you extend the same belief about the constitutionality to other acts, such as safety, theft, and discrimination?
 
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171 now, at minimum (as the article I linked to pointed out, the number is almost certainly higher):

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