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iChat AV v2.1
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Re: Re: Re: Booo!
Well, with iChat you can set yourself as "Away" but still IM people and receive IM's. I know it's not invisible mode but it kinda works the same. With AIM you can't chat with someone when you are away...but you can in iChat.
Originally posted by MacBoyX
Invisible mode means you can be signed on and look like you're offline but you aren't. You can initiate and receive IMs. This is important to me because sometimes I am online working and just want to msg one person but nor be seen.
On another note... i have already reverted. I don't think this beta is cooked enough yet. I had ALOT of problems with just sending IMs and getting a "you've sent to many messages too fast, please wait a short while and try again".
I also could not chat with 5 different Windows friends and 3 iChat friends that I could chat with yesterday.
macboyX
Well, with iChat you can set yourself as "Away" but still IM people and receive IM's. I know it's not invisible mode but it kinda works the same. With AIM you can't chat with someone when you are away...but you can in iChat.
Originally posted by mrzippy
His camera works at his end...
Anyway I show no mic or camera for him in iChat
He has turned his firewall off and I just set default server on my router to the machine I'm using - still no luck.
Yeah, the mic or camera aren't coming up for me either.
I love Microsoft..
Think they'll buy the April Fool's joke thing again?
Michael Hanscom, a temp worker at Microsoft's in-house print shop, is fired after posting to his blog a photo that showed workers at the facility taking delivery of several Apple G5 computers. His supervisor insists that Hanscom was fired not for showing the company relying on the product of its chief rival, but for revealing the location of one of its shipping and receiving departments.
Did anyone see this?? Hilarious...
To make this relevant to the thread... iSight and iChatAV rock. I never talk to my family on the phone anymore..
Think they'll buy the April Fool's joke thing again?
Michael Hanscom, a temp worker at Microsoft's in-house print shop, is fired after posting to his blog a photo that showed workers at the facility taking delivery of several Apple G5 computers. His supervisor insists that Hanscom was fired not for showing the company relying on the product of its chief rival, but for revealing the location of one of its shipping and receiving departments.
Did anyone see this?? Hilarious...
To make this relevant to the thread... iSight and iChatAV rock. I never talk to my family on the phone anymore..
I have connected a camera to my mac now, suddenly it says my friend has a camera, now I have one.
Voice only chat is still greyed out.
Very odd, so you both must have a camera to use.
Will test too, friend just gone offline - PC probably crashed
updated... I was right
Voice only chat is still greyed out.
Very odd, so you both must have a camera to use.
Will test too, friend just gone offline - PC probably crashed
updated... I was right
forgot the pic
http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclecticism/2003/10/even_microsoft_.html
I took this shot on the way into work on the loading dock (MSCopy, the print shop I work in, is in the same building as MS's shipping and receiving). Three palettes of Dual 2.0Ghz G5's on their way in to somewhere deep in the bowels of Redmond. Hopefully they're all in good condition when they arrive the boxes are slick enough that a few of them took a bit of a tumble (you can see them back in the truck)!
http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclecticism/2003/10/even_microsoft_.html
I took this shot on the way into work on the loading dock (MSCopy, the print shop I work in, is in the same building as MS's shipping and receiving). Three palettes of Dual 2.0Ghz G5's on their way in to somewhere deep in the bowels of Redmond. Hopefully they're all in good condition when they arrive the boxes are slick enough that a few of them took a bit of a tumble (you can see them back in the truck)!
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Hmmm, it won't launch for me. Unexpected quit error.
I'll try trashing prefs and such later, but that's not a great first impression.
I'll try trashing prefs and such later, but that's not a great first impression.
Well it says starting Video Chat now forever.... but never gets any further.
This is not a very good beta.
I am using NAPT router, but iChat was supposed to be transparent to that sort of setup, have even assigned a default server as this machine just in case.
This is not a very good beta.
I am using NAPT router, but iChat was supposed to be transparent to that sort of setup, have even assigned a default server as this machine just in case.
It's really strange...
I have a new PB with iSight. I've tried 5.5 with two different people:
--First person has a PC with 5.5 and no webcam. I was able to do a one-way video chat with 2-way audio. In other words, she could see and hear me; I could hear her.
--Second person has a PC with 5.5 and a USB webcam. She could see and hear me, but i could only see her.
Don't know what the deal is. I'm disappointed there's no option for 1-to-1 audio chat without video. There are some times when I just don't want to see people/don't want them to see me.
I have a new PB with iSight. I've tried 5.5 with two different people:
--First person has a PC with 5.5 and no webcam. I was able to do a one-way video chat with 2-way audio. In other words, she could see and hear me; I could hear her.
--Second person has a PC with 5.5 and a USB webcam. She could see and hear me, but i could only see her.
Don't know what the deal is. I'm disappointed there's no option for 1-to-1 audio chat without video. There are some times when I just don't want to see people/don't want them to see me.
If my friend calls me I get the following error in connection doctor.
2004-02-05 23:26:33 +0000: AIMUSER cancelled the connection
Tried to send UDP SIP "invite" to the following IP addresses and ports:
81.76.118.194:3568
AIMUSER is censored shows username
2004-02-05 23:26:33 +0000: AIMUSER cancelled the connection
Tried to send UDP SIP "invite" to the following IP addresses and ports:
81.76.118.194:3568
AIMUSER is censored shows username
it's a step in the right direction.
iPod for mac ---> then Windoze
iChat for mac ---> then Windoze
convert the users' habits, then you can convert the users.
iPod for mac ---> then Windoze
iChat for mac ---> then Windoze
convert the users' habits, then you can convert the users.
Re: TwoMore Big iSight Problems!
Maybe that's because iSight doesn't transmit 44.1kHz of audio. You don't need that much frequency range just for audio. Normal human speech is in the 1kHz range and doesn't stray too far higher or lower. Just think.. all that added and unneccessary frequency adds for a larger amount of data to travel over the net. Sending high quality audio like that would prohibit people on dialup to use the audio-only chat feature like they can now.
The iSight is not meant to be a studio mic, but a videoconferencing mic. If you're recording you want a decent mic. Music compositions should be atleast 44,100 Hz.
In my mind as a computer geek and musician this makes complete sense to me why Apple would go this route for both applications.
Maybe that's because iSight doesn't transmit 44.1kHz of audio. You don't need that much frequency range just for audio. Normal human speech is in the 1kHz range and doesn't stray too far higher or lower. Just think.. all that added and unneccessary frequency adds for a larger amount of data to travel over the net. Sending high quality audio like that would prohibit people on dialup to use the audio-only chat feature like they can now.
The iSight is not meant to be a studio mic, but a videoconferencing mic. If you're recording you want a decent mic. Music compositions should be atleast 44,100 Hz.
In my mind as a computer geek and musician this makes complete sense to me why Apple would go this route for both applications.
I have started a thread on the Apple discussions site too.
http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?14@18.1ojCac8wb4k.6@.688e49a1
http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?14@18.1ojCac8wb4k.6@.688e49a1
Alternative to iSight
If anyone is looking for a good FireWire webcam that is BETTER than the iSight, look to the Unibrain Fire-i webcam. The Fire-i does not have a built-in mic like the iSight, but you can get a $10 USB mic for that (that is what I use, plus you can put mic closer to the source). I have been using a Fire-i for over a year, and just picked up a second at amazon.com for about $75 (currently Amazon is out of stock, plus it seems they may have raised their price), so this saves you almost half of what you can find an iSight for.
I purchased an iSight at Christmas expecting better video performance and was shocked to find out it was WORSE! So I sold the iSight and bought another Fire-i. The picture on the iSight was very dark in my room that has moderate room lighting. The Fire-i has a MUCH better/brighter picture in comparison and didn't require I go out and buy photo lamps or something. Read the Apple forums and you will find many other users unhappy with the iSight picture quality being too dark.
FOR THOSE WITH PROBLEMS CONNECTING TO OTHER USERS: If you or your friend are using a router, they will need to open up specific ports in order to use videoconferencing. Check the Apple website. I have a netgear wireless router, and could see people but could not make a connection until I opened up the ports on my router as Apple instructed.
If anyone is looking for a good FireWire webcam that is BETTER than the iSight, look to the Unibrain Fire-i webcam. The Fire-i does not have a built-in mic like the iSight, but you can get a $10 USB mic for that (that is what I use, plus you can put mic closer to the source). I have been using a Fire-i for over a year, and just picked up a second at amazon.com for about $75 (currently Amazon is out of stock, plus it seems they may have raised their price), so this saves you almost half of what you can find an iSight for.
I purchased an iSight at Christmas expecting better video performance and was shocked to find out it was WORSE! So I sold the iSight and bought another Fire-i. The picture on the iSight was very dark in my room that has moderate room lighting. The Fire-i has a MUCH better/brighter picture in comparison and didn't require I go out and buy photo lamps or something.
Read the Apple forums and you will find many other users unhappy with the iSight picture quality being too dark.FOR THOSE WITH PROBLEMS CONNECTING TO OTHER USERS: If you or your friend are using a router, they will need to open up specific ports in order to use videoconferencing. Check the Apple website. I have a netgear wireless router, and could see people but could not make a connection until I opened up the ports on my router as Apple instructed.
Have just found this on firewall / NAPT setting for iChat
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93208
Will try removing SIP Binding and forwarding the ports shown tomorrow.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93208
Is shown in that document, my router has a NAT binding for SIP for port 5060 - is that likely to cause my problems?
Will try removing SIP Binding and forwarding the ports shown tomorrow.
Does not look like many people are getting this to work with PC 5.5. I know Apple said it was beta, looks more like Alpha to me.
Audio does work with iChat -> aol 5.5
I've tested this on using my mac -> PC
the mac person seems to have to make a video request for the audio to work.
unfortunately I don't have a mic for my PC so I couldn't see whether audio works from pc -> mac
I've tested this on using my mac -> PC
the mac person seems to have to make a video request for the audio to work.
unfortunately I don't have a mic for my PC so I couldn't see whether audio works from pc -> mac
Re: Re: TwoMore Big iSight Problems!
I'm sorry, but I don't understand how the bui;lt-in Mic in my 12" Powerbook should be more of a "Studio Mic" than the iSight that I paid a C-Note for. The whole idea of the iLife Suite is simplicity... a suite for the rest of us. So, it is just plain unaceptable... MAKE IT WORK, APPLE!
I'm sorry, but I don't understand how the bui;lt-in Mic in my 12" Powerbook should be more of a "Studio Mic" than the iSight that I paid a C-Note for. The whole idea of the iLife Suite is simplicity... a suite for the rest of us. So, it is just plain unaceptable... MAKE IT WORK, APPLE!