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iChat AV v2.1

I hope they would, then it will solve all my problems. My mum said that AIM had a horrible and very intrusive interface. Plus we couldn't get the damn thing to work for audio.

I've submitted two feedback requests to Apple: one about my problems in getting an audio chat to work (i.e. it didn't), and the other is a feature request for MSN compatibility. It ain't ever going to happen but I can hope. Even if it just worked for text-based chat. I love iChat's interface over MSN's and all the problems I've been having with it.
 
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Originally posted by TorbX
I could live with the quality I've seen on Windows XP machines.

I whish iChat could be made for Windows XP, just like iTunes. Sell the iPod with iTunes, sell the iSight with iChat.
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now that AIM has the capabilities for video chatting, i don't see what the advantage would be unless if they come out with something revolutionary (not seen ever in anything else) in iChat. they wouldn't waste the money to develop something only some mac people would use on their windows boxes.

maybe iLife for windows (iTunes is already there, all they need is iMovie, iDVD and iPhoto), but not iChat.

i know a few friends who love iMovie, but have windows at home. and my neighbor is amazed that i can burn a DVD, and he likes iPhoto. (he also wants an iPod mini :p)
 
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Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
maybe iLife for windows (iTunes is already there, all they need is iMovie, iDVD and iPhoto), but not iChat.
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iLife will never come out for Windows because it is a device to draw people to the Mac. The great selling point for a Mac is its all-in-one solution for most family computers - get one and you've got a working solution for storing and editing your photos, family movies and then burn them to DVD for safekeeping. Now you can make music too with GarageBand. Putting these on Windows negates the need to get the Mac, especially as things like iLife are sold far cheaper than they could be to gain adoption of the Mac.

iTunes was a concession that was made to allow the iPod to flourish in the PC worlds as well as allowing the money-making (not that much but still not a loss-making initiative) iTunes Music Store.

iChat AV for Windows would be good because we could all chat in harmony and this would help Mac/PC compatibility. The problem is, they'd have to charge $30 for it or Jaguar users would be up in arms, and I can't see many people wanting to pay for it when other solutions are free. That said, they could sell it with the iSight and make money that way...
 
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Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
now that AIM has the capabilities for video chatting, i don't see what the advantage would be unless if they come out with something revolutionary (not seen ever in anything else) in iChat. they wouldn't waste the money to develop something only some mac people would use on their windows boxes.
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Come on, have you ever SEEN AIM 5.5? It's not exactly user friendly! Buttons and text here and there, commercial there and menus everywhere.

Compared to iChat and MSN Messenger, its useless.

Later,
TorbX.
 
From what I've heard from my mum and brother at home, I'd agree. iChat AV for Windows would solve all my problems too, as I know no-one with a Mac.
 
a lot of people i know won't use it, but if i was on windows and using aim that's a different story. it looks ugly :p and there are the ads. and now the ads talk! that
's horrible. if you're listening to something, and then it comes on. it's horrible.
 
iChatAV for the pc would not solve the problem. Noone you know will purchase iChat for $30 when they get AIM for free. Also people complain that no-one they know uses AIM, well it'd be the same problem if Apple released iChat for the PC, no-one would use it.
 
Originally posted by 7on
iChatAV for the pc would not solve the problem. Noone you know will purchase iChat for $30 when they get AIM for free. Also people complain that no-one they know uses AIM, well it'd be the same problem if Apple released iChat for the PC, no-one would use it.
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Whats this fuzz about paying for iChat? I've never payed anything.

Right now, I'm a little upset with AOL. How the H*LL are they thinking? WHY all these ads? The chat window is also ugly, lots of buttons and crap.

Of course people would use a free iChat on the PC. Its nice to keep on the desktop. My friends wont use AOL AIM _ONLY_ because it is ugly. But if I told them that I was on iChat, sure they would keep it there. It's even slicker than MSN - i guess they would migrate totally.

Apple should go with the flow on this one.
 
Originally posted by TorbX
Whats this fuzz about paying for iChat? I've never payed anything.

Right now, I'm a little upset with AOL. How the H*LL are they thinking? WHY all these ads? The chat window is also ugly, lots of buttons and crap.

Of course people would use a free iChat on the PC. Its nice to keep on the desktop. My friends wont use AOL AIM _ONLY_ because it is ugly. But if I told them that I was on iChat, sure they would keep it there. It's even slicker than MSN - i guess they would migrate totally.

Apple should go with the flow on this one.
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iChat AV is free for Panther users.

iChat AV is $30 for Jaguar users.
Therefore iChat AV for Windows would have to be $30 (or else Jaguar users will want their money back!)
 
i've just lost my cherry

Well i'm a happy bunny at least, FINALLY been able to have a 2 way video chat with someone! and to a certain extend it was thoroughly enjoyable! ok, so it cut out every now and then, and a few connection problems, but we are trying to connect two beta progs on two different OS's!

It is VITAL that iChat becomes compatible with both AOL *AND* MSN for it to be much use to anyone. And by the looks of it, it may be obtainable!

Surely Micro$oft relations aren't too bad with Apple, surely it would almost be an advantage to them to just DITCH development of their crappy MSN client (ok, i like it actually, except they are cheeky bastards! ; i noticed i am running 3.5 the latest version, but it keeps on reminding me to d/l a newer one. i tried the 'upgrade' at work and it turns out all Microsoft do is turn OFF the option to get rid of adverts!)

if they spent their time trying to make the Current MSN for PC work with iChat, surely they would earn a lot of kudos?
 
yeah i dont know anybody that consistently uses MSN. i did use it for one thing. my g/f and i talked on webcams when i was gone for a summer (summer before last), and turned out MSN was the easiest way to do it at the time.

of course both of us were on pc's at the time...
 
Originally posted by Engagebot
yeah i dont know anybody that consistently uses MSN. .
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i think its a UK/USA thing.. nobody uses AIM over here unless they wanna chat with our USA 'buddies'
 
What's annoying is that most of my friends (all with PCs) have only recently started to 'chat' and all use MSN. I bet it was just because that was the one that Windows tries to get you to use :(. Half of them probably hadn't heard of AIM or Yahoo...
 
Originally posted by johnnyjibbs
Apparently AIM is really horrid to use with talking adverts and banners.
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Yes, it REALLY is. One of my friends I talked into triyng AIM for my sake (I wanted to use iChat for once) said: "This program will cause me BUCKETS of spam! Just by the looks of it, it will!"

Later,
TorbX.
 
iChat AV 2.1

Hey. I have a an XP at home with AIM 5.5 (hate the pc) and a 12" PB with iChat AV and the pc said that the pb had video, not audio, but obviously does, cuz whats the use of vid w/o aud? Anyway, it was saying "one-way vid" but the pc was connecting and the pb timed out........ i never could connect. I hope that the real thing fixes this, but then again, i was on the same LAN so that could be it. Apple's not one to prelease a piece of software that doesn't work....



Caleb

P.S. still can't figure out the avatar, just new to this forum and it's different....
 
Well I thought I would take the plunge and buy myself a iSight. I had no problems setting it up to video chat with my old WindowsXP Pro box. I can't set up audio only, but then I don't need to at the moment.
 
Re: iChat AV 2.1

Originally posted by Calebj14
P.S. still can't figure out the avatar, just new to this forum and it's different....
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You have to post 500 times before you get to have an avatar..

Anyway, so no-one can get audio-only chat to work? Looks like I might have to steal some webcam from someone... Hopefully Apple can fix this ASAP.
 
more trouble with ichat 2.1 beta

hey everyone,

Im not sure if this issue has come up, but here's my problem. I have had and isight for about a month now, works great with my friends/family who have macs...but it seems those pc's are trouble makers.

I have been trying to connect with my sister who has a pc, a microphone, aim 5.5, xp, a fast processor above 1 gig. We both have cable modem connection speeds. She has gotten her mic to work with other pc's

I keep trying to invite to video chat (there is no option for one way video chat). but everytime i clik the video chat icon or the invite to video chat from the menubar (one way is greyed), a window appears for video chat on my sisters end but it says:

hockeygirl45 is not accepting Talk invitations or does not support the Talk feature.

if she tries to start a video chat with me then, she gets a message saying that im not responding.

i don't understand, since one of us has a camera, this should work, right?

any ideas?

thanks for your help!

-lori
 
Re: Re: iChat AV 2.1

Originally posted by johnnyjibbs
Anyway, so no-one can get audio-only chat to work? Looks like I might have to steal some webcam from someone... Hopefully Apple can fix this ASAP.
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Check out www.skype.com !

Works behind firewalls and everything - but it does not exist for mac. YET! At their help-pages, you can throw in a vote at it. With enough votes, they'll make a Mac-version! That could turn in to ONE CANDY APP! Brushed metal, nifty sounds, etc...
 
I've read and read these posts, and I'm afraid I'm just confused. Sorry. Please be patient-I'm just learning.

I used to be able to voice chat in Yahoo Chat and in AIM. Suddenly, that capability disappeared. Is there any way to get back in and voice chat in either of those programs? I am on an iMac running Safari 10.2.8.

I'm not interested in video, ONLY audio.
Thanks.
 
Originally posted by ThatGirl
I've read and read these posts, and I'm afraid I'm just confused. Sorry. Please be patient-I'm just learning.

I used to be able to voice chat in Yahoo Chat and in AIM. Suddenly, that capability disappeared. Is there any way to get back in and voice chat in either of those programs? I am on an iMac running Safari 10.2.8.

I'm not interested in video, ONLY audio.
Thanks.
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As mentioned, www.skype.com for mac is what we want. Its genious.
 
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