Even if the camera was on the correct side, the ARM (?) chip(s) Apple is most likely using probably won't be able to do very good video anyway—if at all—unless you like postage stamp quality video that will drain your battery down. There's just not enough power... the graphics are most likely pushed to the limit right now.
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Really, why?
If it can decode and play H.264, why not decode and play H.264 encoded video stream?
If it can decode and play H.264, why not decode and play H.264 encoded video stream?
Decoding is not very cpu intensive... it becomes a problem for a mobile device when you have to decode the incoming video, plus encode what you're sending out. On top of that, handle the wi-fi connection.
It's all speculative though... until it actually ships, we don't know what the chips are and what they're capable of doing.
It's all speculative though... until it actually ships, we don't know what the chips are and what they're capable of doing.
Soon we will have video phone ???
Umm we have had video phone for a few years now in Australia ? Especially if you buy a phone with Telstra who have 98% 3G coverage of the Australian population most of the phone do video calls now ...
Umm we have had video phone for a few years now in Australia ? Especially if you buy a phone with Telstra who have 98% 3G coverage of the Australian population most of the phone do video calls now ...
We have them here too...and few use them. Friends has one on her cell, never uses it. I guess it easier to talk, and be able to do other stuff.
I'm a big fan of texting...aviod human contact
I don't know why Apple didn't demand iChat on the phone. Unless they're gonna get some of the TEXT money.
The implementation of iChatAV on an iPhone will certainly spell the end of the cellular network.
And that's a good thing.
Let's look under the hood of the iPhone - it comes complete with quad-band network compatibility for all present environments, bluetooth, Edge and Wi-Fi. It's the latter that interests me the most.
With international roaming tariffs of anything around £2.50GBP per minute (@ $5US), the logical alternative would be the use of high speed broadband for voice communication - an example of this is Skype.
Skype has cheap rates (NEGLIGIBLE in comparison to cellular), reliable and accessible going down the route of broadband chat. The advent of 3rd party software for the iPhone has given the makers of Skype yet another platform to excel and dominate.
But insofar as VIDEO communications, iChatAV shows its class.
Apple's in-house proprietory software SHOULD take the iPhone to a completely stellar level. In his keynote speech last year, Steve Jobs indicated a fleet of iPhones will be released with various specifications over the coming months. A good indication to us that the current iPhone design will not remain stagnant for long - if at all.
With phones such as the Nokia N series, with still/video cameras front and rear, the technology currently exists to include such devices into units the size of the iPhone. I predict the NEXT generation of iPhone will have such cameras included as standard - thus offering V(ideo)OIP.
Cities such as Norwich in the east of England have launched pilot schemes bringing high speed wireless internet to the masses - for FREE. Considering the cost of upkeep, the slow performance and unreasonable price of the cellular network, the next logical step would be a nationwide roll-out of such plans.
Imagine being able with your iPhone communicating between 15-30 fps wirelessly to AIM and .mac users - anywhere on the global broadband footprint - and all for free... Say goodbye to the ridiculously high prices of our mobile networks.
Techno-anarchists of the world unite!
And that's a good thing.
Let's look under the hood of the iPhone - it comes complete with quad-band network compatibility for all present environments, bluetooth, Edge and Wi-Fi. It's the latter that interests me the most.
With international roaming tariffs of anything around £2.50GBP per minute (@ $5US), the logical alternative would be the use of high speed broadband for voice communication - an example of this is Skype.
Skype has cheap rates (NEGLIGIBLE in comparison to cellular), reliable and accessible going down the route of broadband chat. The advent of 3rd party software for the iPhone has given the makers of Skype yet another platform to excel and dominate.
But insofar as VIDEO communications, iChatAV shows its class.
Apple's in-house proprietory software SHOULD take the iPhone to a completely stellar level. In his keynote speech last year, Steve Jobs indicated a fleet of iPhones will be released with various specifications over the coming months. A good indication to us that the current iPhone design will not remain stagnant for long - if at all.
With phones such as the Nokia N series, with still/video cameras front and rear, the technology currently exists to include such devices into units the size of the iPhone. I predict the NEXT generation of iPhone will have such cameras included as standard - thus offering V(ideo)OIP.
Cities such as Norwich in the east of England have launched pilot schemes bringing high speed wireless internet to the masses - for FREE. Considering the cost of upkeep, the slow performance and unreasonable price of the cellular network, the next logical step would be a nationwide roll-out of such plans.
Imagine being able with your iPhone communicating between 15-30 fps wirelessly to AIM and .mac users - anywhere on the global broadband footprint - and all for free... Say goodbye to the ridiculously high prices of our mobile networks.
Techno-anarchists of the world unite!
how do i get this to work
i want to get this on my own server, which is php enabled but i cant seem to get it working, i am assuming i have to change something in the config file, but im not sure what, i am kind of new at php, can anybody help me with this? thanks
i want to get this on my own server, which is php enabled but i cant seem to get it working, i am assuming i have to change something in the config file, but im not sure what, i am kind of new at php, can anybody help me with this? thanks
skype will never happen on iphone.
dont even think about it..
if apple ever allow that on iPhone... they will get a letter from Linksys' attorney right away
Hang on -
What's the point of allowing 3rd party software on their iPhone, then?
If Apple are allowing companies to provide programs for their products, then isn't it contradictory to prevent certain companies access to that service?
Not very diplomatic OR democratic, if you ask me...
Anyway - Linksys wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Apple could easily market the iPhone as a portable computing device in any case, which falls under the juristiction and justification of Skype. It runs on a computer operating system (OSX), it uses Wi-Fi exactly the same as a laptop, and at NO POINT does it contravene any protocols in its inter-relation with the cellular network - meaning the two never cross paths.
In fact, it is much the same as putting a cellular PCMCIA card in your laptop. There is no contravention of laws. It's still a mobile computing device which utilises many different protocols. End of story.
If Skype WANT to write code for the iPhone, they should - and will - be legally entitled to, according to Apple's 3rd party regulations.
And there's not a thing that anyone else can do about it.
What's the point of allowing 3rd party software on their iPhone, then?
If Apple are allowing companies to provide programs for their products, then isn't it contradictory to prevent certain companies access to that service?
Not very diplomatic OR democratic, if you ask me...
Anyway - Linksys wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Apple could easily market the iPhone as a portable computing device in any case, which falls under the juristiction and justification of Skype. It runs on a computer operating system (OSX), it uses Wi-Fi exactly the same as a laptop, and at NO POINT does it contravene any protocols in its inter-relation with the cellular network - meaning the two never cross paths.
In fact, it is much the same as putting a cellular PCMCIA card in your laptop. There is no contravention of laws. It's still a mobile computing device which utilises many different protocols. End of story.
If Skype WANT to write code for the iPhone, they should - and will - be legally entitled to, according to Apple's 3rd party regulations.
And there's not a thing that anyone else can do about it.
As someone has mentioned, encoding H.264 takes a lot more work than decoding it.
Having said that, there was an interesting rumor a few months back about Apple securing an order for a huge number of computer chips just for decoding and encoding H.264 video, and the plan was to make make the chips standard on all Macs.
If the chips are small enough to fit inside the iPhone, it could be a real game changer!
Note: This is version 1.0 of the iPhone. Remember how many versions it took to get color and then video on the iPod. All these ideas may be slated for the iPhone, just don't expect them to be there on June 29th.
i cant get it to work at all, i just uploaded the entire thing to my server, but there has to be way to configure it for the php database, and i am assuming that you have to go into the config file, but i dont really know what i have to change there, any help would be great,
I've played with the config file, set up a database with sufficient privs, an did pretty much everything I can to get this thing to work. I must be missing something. I e-mailed the developer, I'm hoping to hear back.
Does anyone else have any experience getting it to work?
Does anyone else have any experience getting it to work?
Well, Cisco's lawyers. But I think Cisco and Apple has ironed out those issues. The problem is AT&T. I've read that they won't even enable WiFi on the iPhone until you purchased the data plan with AT&T. So if you thought of buying an iPhone, using WiFi, and avoid paying AT&T large monthly fees, forget about it.
AT&T makes money on chat (SMS text messaging), phone calls, ringtones, games, and other services. AT&T is going to work hard to avoid cannibalizing these revenue sources. Remember, these are the guys who hate Net Neutrality. I hope Steve wins these battles.
What I hope for is an iPod which is everything the iPhone has except the phone. Without having to deal with AT&T, Apple would have more freedom to offer an SDK for the OS X based iPod. The true killer app could emerge.
I think this will set a marker for the cell providers...
...times are changing, they must provide what subscribers want, on demand-- rather than cramming plans that nobody wants or needs down our throats...
...else the next incarnation of iPod will provide wifi EOIP (Everything over IP) and bypass the carriers, altogether.
My granddaughter got her first cell with a camera... she can take pictures, but must pay to do anything with them (MMS, email)...
...or spend $70 for a 3rd-party cable & software to synch/crossload them to a computer.
Das ist Scheise!
i've been trying to get it to work with no luck, but my server is down right now so ill have to try again later, let us know if you are able to get it to work
Ya that would be cool if we could have a vid chat, but i don't think that the iPhone has enough bandwidth to do that
The whole reason apple isn't releasing an sdk for the iphone is to prevent anyone from every making something like ichat or skype run on the iphone. That's truly the #1 reason. If AT&T can't make money off texting and voice calls, the relationship would never of happened.
It's a pity, but apple and at&t will do everything in their power to stop people ever having a VOIP app work on the iphone. Forget video, let alone audio.
It's a pity, but apple and at&t will do everything in their power to stop people ever having a VOIP app work on the iphone. Forget video, let alone audio.
Same here. I can't get it to work at all, and the developer hasn't returned any of my e-mails.
Anyone?