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If you don't renew in a certain time period, you loose all your stuff. Including your mail, apple id, cal, iDisk etc.

So people are forced to renew if they want to keep all the years of data.
 
I'll just be honest I don't really want to read all of these posts.

Do you have the ability with iCloud to upload all of your music for a price?
 
My question now really is "What else is there?". For the storage of my only itunes bought music I think 25$ is way too much. I guess we find out on monday if there is something else.

That is the one more thing they will announce!

It's the iBrainInTune

You hook it over your ear and it scans your brain and knows which music you want to download even before you know, then it extracts your iTunes id and password from your brain, puts it on iCloud and you can hear it within 2 seconds.
 
While clouds are the future of internet use, right now mobile connections are not all that fast in most of the zones of a country... buffering might be a problem, and besides, it would only be considered as an option once I've ran out of physical space

If it's the future and you can implement it now, why not do it then? Should Apple wait for cloud computing to be viable for all before rolling it out, or as they have the capability now, roll it out and let those who are able to use it get the benefits. As connections improve and cloud for all becomes more of a reality more and more can join in.
 
I'll just be honest I don't really want to read all of these posts.

Do you have the ability with iCloud to upload all of your music for a price?

The realistic answer is no. Just the stuff you've bought from iTunes.
 
Take a shower

Most of the posters in here need to get in the shower and wash the sand out of their clam. Everyone is getting upset about paying $25 and they don't like the service. First of all we don't even know what the service is. Maybe it is $25 and you can stream every song on iTunes, most likely not but just wait before you complain. You guys sound like my kids complaining about how something tastes before they have even tried it. Also after this comes out if you don't like it don't buy it. I have no need for final cut, so guess what I didn't buy it. There is a lot of apple stuff I don't have you can do it to. I know this is a message board to talk about apple, but it is hard to read the ggod posts with so many whiners that you need to read through.
 
There are 1 or 2 other places on the internet where people can legally purchase mp3s, apart from iTunes... :rolleyes:

Cdon,spotify, amazon etc. There is now loads of legal sites for music purchase. Itunes still has no film content available in my store so that is a bust for Apple's cloud. No content no purchase.

Spotify has the right idea, scan for songs and let you stream them or download them for offline use. All this tied into facebook. That is the only way for a service today to function. Spotify has 2/3 of the downloaded music market share here in my country. Apple must have a real service to compete against what is already the market leader here.
 
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I love how all you clowns have already concluded and wrapped up the uselessness of iCloud, knocking it using colorful and disparaging language, stating what an utter failure it is (and Apple, of course) and how they would not in a million years use it, based on..absolutely nothing. We do not officially know a single feature of this product.

You people will never grow up. Thank God Apple ignores the opinions of people like you, it's why they have become so successful. Such extreme hatred before a service is even revealed. Pretty much consistent with every single Apple reveal and new product. Pathetic.

I agree completely. Within the last year, the anti-Apple trolls have been completely unbearable on this site.

This site used to be a place to discuss positives and negatives of Apple rumors, but recently anything Apple does (which is largely successful) is bashed relentlessly.

This is pretty much like a Barack Obama website being overtaken by Rush Limbaugh fans.
 
So this is basically just an online locker for iTunes store purchases?

If true that is pretty disappointing.

That will be just one small part of the whole I suspect and a nice one at that IMHO.


I agree completely. Within the last year, the anti-Apple trolls have been completely unbearable on this site.

This site used to be a place to discuss positives and negatives of Apple rumors, but recently anything Apple does (which is largely successful) is bashed relentlessly.

This is pretty much like a Barack Obama website being overtaken by Rush Limbaugh fans.


I could not agree more. I come here less and less, I find AI is much better at keeping the trolls out.


Great for the people who find this handy. I'm not one of them though. No sale.


You make this statement based on ... a rumor?
 
I agree completely. Within the last year, the anti-Apple trolls have been completely unbearable on this site.

This site used to be a place to discuss positives and negatives of Apple rumors, but recently anything Apple does (which is largely successful) is bashed relentlessly.

This is pretty much like a Barack Obama website being overtaken by Rush Limbaugh fans.

+1 Except the last point! Some things are just deserved! :p

Really.... I too love how people will bash things before they even know what they are. Take rumors like they are fact and then start tearing them apart. Apple is not perfect, but they sure do get most things wildly right.

Now I need to log off here and head over to the Obama site. :D
 
I guess this is U.S only for "some time". Just like it's still not possible to buy movies and tv-series from iTunes in a majority of countries. The whole digital media distribution system with licenses that needs to be negotiated country by country stinks. I will probably retire (35 more years of waiting) before I can make good use of iTunes or any other distribution system.
 
I guess this is U.S only for "some time". Just like it's still not possible to buy movies and tv-series from iTunes in a majority of countries. The whole digital media distribution system with licenses that needs to be negotiated country by country stinks. I will probably retire (35 more years of waiting) before I can make good use of iTunes or any other distribution system.

OK you figured out why I left the UK to live in Florida ;)
 
A lot of talk about mainstream users usage of the cloud but I hope Apple might have something for industrial use like Microsoft Azure.
 
Sorry, but paying rent to use someone's harddrive to store music sounds pretty silly to me. Just buy a ipod classic and you'll be able to carry 120GB of music around you, much bigger and cheaper then any cloud service could give you.
$25/year is like going 10 years before you have to buy a $249 iPod classic. This doesn't even factor in amortized compound interest.
 
That's a fair criticism. But in theory you're getting extra rights to the songs that you didn't have before. The right to stream them from a centralized server. And Apple has some costs in storage and network access to pass on.

Isn't that what iDisk already is?
 
$25/year is like going 10 years before you have to buy a $249 iPod classic. This doesn't even factor in amortized compound interest.

You've still got to buy something to play it on and have a mobile tariff which allows you to download enough data.

I play my music at work for 8.5 hours a day, 5 days a week. Current iTunes content is roughly 2MB per minute so that works out as 1GB per day or 20GB per month just to listen to music while I'm at work.

I'll stick to my iPod classic for time being. :)
 
+1 Except the last point! Some things are just deserved! :p

Now I need to log off here and head over to the Obama site. :D

In the early days of the internet, I would only visit message boards I agreed with, like alt.girls.sexy.redheads. I guess I didn't realize that I should have also been a member of alt.girls.bbw.baldgirls and picked on the users there. Ah, how the internet has changed!
 
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So for a fee each year I'm able to store my data on servers in another country, rely on having a constantly good signal and worry about going over my bandwidth.

No I don't think I'll be using this service.

Flash storage is getting bigger and cheaper. Who is this for exactly? 4gb iPhone owners?
 
So for a fee each year I'm able to store my data on servers in another country, rely on having a constantly good signal and worry about going over my bandwidth.

No I don't think I'll be using this service.

Flash storage is getting bigger and cheaper. Who is this for exactly? 4gb iPhone owners?

Yeah I agree. I think this is bad news for anyone that wants increased capacities in their iPod/iPhone device because they will try to push people over to the iCloud service and charging you for extra space instead of upgrading the capacities of existing devices.

The world is just not ready for full time streaming technologies because:
a) signals are inconsistent in certain areas for certain carriers.
b) wireless providers are working backwards and instead of offering unlimited services they are trying to screw you buy charging you outrageous prices on a per GB basis making us all feel like this is 1992 where services like AOL charged by the hour.
c) technologies really aren't fast enough to replace flash/hard drives for storage.

People need to step up and stop these providers from gouging their customers.

As far as paying $25 to backup my iTunes purchases (something that SHOULD already happen anyway) they can KMA. At least with Amazon you can redownload your purchases no questions asked.

Apple has plenty of money to upgrade their servers but they don't do it. If the iCloud servers are anything like the iTunes Store servers you can count me out, I rarely ever get speeds above 500KB when downloading videos from iTunes Store.
 
So for a fee each year I'm able to store my data on servers in another country, rely on having a constantly good signal and worry about going over my bandwidth.

No I don't think I'll be using this service.

If what you're saying makes no sense for anyone to use, why do you think Apple would create something like this?

It seems obvious that it has to be something else.
 
Yes, but have you tried to use iDisk for this purpose? It's clunky and give up playing more than one song at a time. Plus, I'm not sure you're streaming it. More like downloading it to the device and then playing. I can't recall if the music can begin before the file is transferred completely.

So what we need is a better interface into a feature that us MobileMe users (the storage part) already have?

That and better speed, because the transfer rates are pretty crappy.
 
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