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iCloud Photo Library issues in 8.1
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me too. progress bar is stuck. does it take really long to upload? how long did your uploads take?
Mine uploaded like 3-4gb in under an hour. Just waiting on optmized to free up space now
It's just stuck. No movement period. It once worked back on beta 1, but hasn't worked since beta 2 or the official 8.1.
FWIW, I had a ~30GB library and it seems to have only "optimized" about half of it. In other words, I reclaimed about 12GB of free space, but there are still a lot of videos and full size pictures left on my device (for weeks now).
Not sure what the criteria for optimization is, but I'm thinking it either waits until a pic/video hasn't been viewed in a while, or only completes the process when the phone gets low on storage space. Would love to find out exactly what's going on behind the scenes.
Maybe it only does it when plugged in or something. Like icloud backups. I could just disable backups of photos and restore and the backup wouldn't have the original photos.
So this is my question. You take a photo with your iPhone but you have iCloud photo library enabled to optimize device space. I understand that the full resolution will be backed up to iCloud Photo Library, but my question is what about the Dropbox camera roll backup? Will Dropbox upload the full resolution or the optimized version?
As I said above, mine is doing the same thing. I activated the feature on my wife's iPad and set optimize on. It took all of 10 minutes to upload and optimize a couple hundred photos. I on the other hand have been able to upload only.
I still have an original iPad on my iCloud account. It can only run iOS 5. I wonder if that has anything to do with it. My wife's phone and iPad are both on iOS 8.
I had some very weird iCloud Photo Library storage discrepencies that at first made no sense until I figured it out. So no one else need to go through what I did, I'm adding what I learned.
Just like with the normal camera roll, the iCloud Photo Library does not count non-favorited Burst photos when counting the total number of photos. Unlike with My Photo Stream though, iCloud Photo Library ignores the "Upload Burst Photos" setting and uploads them anyway. They get added to the total photo count under the Manage Storage section. That's why the Photo count in Photos and under beta.icloud.com may not match the count in the Manage storage area.
In my case, Manage Storage said I had uploaded 198 photos and 20 videos. All Photos showed a count of 154 of which 20 were videos for 134 photos. I have a "burst photo" with 65 bursts, one of which is favorited. That means that there are actually 134 + 65 - 1 = 198 photos, so the math adds up.
Something that doesn't make a lot of sense though is the fact that, despite having the "Photo Library" removed from my iCloud Backup when I enabled iCloud Photo Library, the actually backing up of the photos wasn't disabled. Since I set up iCloud Photo Library to "Download and store originals", that means my photos are now being backed up twice: once in iCloud Photo Library and once in iCloud Backup for my iPhone. That makes no sense since my understanding is that if I turned off backing up "Photo Library" in iCloud Backup and then did an iCloud restore from backup, that my photos would download from the iCloud Photo Library.
Basically photos take up double the amount of space by default, if you save the originals. That makes no sense and just wastes space.
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When I disabled backup up "Photo Library" in iCloud Backups, my current backup size shrunk down to 124 MB, with the next backup taking up 1.1 GB. That makes absolutely no sense. Why would disabling "Photo Library", which deletes the photos from the backup, remove all the other iCloud backup data?
I tried re-enabling backing up "Photo Library" in my phone's iCloud Backup settings and now it contains "No Data". Huh? So when iCloud Photo Library is enabled, it screws up iCloud Backup?
Just like with the normal camera roll, the iCloud Photo Library does not count non-favorited Burst photos when counting the total number of photos. Unlike with My Photo Stream though, iCloud Photo Library ignores the "Upload Burst Photos" setting and uploads them anyway. They get added to the total photo count under the Manage Storage section. That's why the Photo count in Photos and under beta.icloud.com may not match the count in the Manage storage area.
In my case, Manage Storage said I had uploaded 198 photos and 20 videos. All Photos showed a count of 154 of which 20 were videos for 134 photos. I have a "burst photo" with 65 bursts, one of which is favorited. That means that there are actually 134 + 65 - 1 = 198 photos, so the math adds up.
Something that doesn't make a lot of sense though is the fact that, despite having the "Photo Library" removed from my iCloud Backup when I enabled iCloud Photo Library, the actually backing up of the photos wasn't disabled. Since I set up iCloud Photo Library to "Download and store originals", that means my photos are now being backed up twice: once in iCloud Photo Library and once in iCloud Backup for my iPhone. That makes no sense since my understanding is that if I turned off backing up "Photo Library" in iCloud Backup and then did an iCloud restore from backup, that my photos would download from the iCloud Photo Library.
Basically photos take up double the amount of space by default, if you save the originals. That makes no sense and just wastes space.
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When I disabled backup up "Photo Library" in iCloud Backups, my current backup size shrunk down to 124 MB, with the next backup taking up 1.1 GB. That makes absolutely no sense. Why would disabling "Photo Library", which deletes the photos from the backup, remove all the other iCloud backup data?
I tried re-enabling backing up "Photo Library" in my phone's iCloud Backup settings and now it contains "No Data". Huh? So when iCloud Photo Library is enabled, it screws up iCloud Backup?
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Oh I see, I'm not sure on that one. I guess it depends on how quickly they get optimized. But if they are optimized and Dropbox attempts to upload them, I would think (hope) that it would pull from the original source file (original resolution) as standard.
But yea, this would need testing.
I don't know if this was said already but there maybe a way to make this go quicker. As I noticed with mine. Go to settings > general > auto lock > never. Go to your photo library and leave it open, you should see the uploading/downloading indicator at the top left constantly move. I didn't use any other apps in the process I just let it sit in the photo library, until it was complete. Again I don't know if it made a difference but my 10gb library uploaded a lot quicker than whats being reported.
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What happens if my photo library size (~20gb) is larger than the amount of free space I have on iCloud (~10gb)? Does it only upload whatever it can fit or does it just not do anything since there isn't enough storage?
I'm pretty sure it will just upload what it can...then send you several emails prompting you to pay to upgrade
Mine has only uploaded pictures from the past few weeks and the progress bar disappeared, and it still says "Uploading 450 items"
Only seeing the photos from the past few weeks on iCloud.com.
Angry.
Only seeing the photos from the past few weeks on iCloud.com.
Angry.
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For those of you with huge libraries on your iPhone for uploading, how exactly did you get the photos on to your phone in the first place?
I'm waiting for this, as well. While I'm sure some phones are just uploading extremely slow, I think some are also "frozen" for some odd reason. Mine hasn't budged in around 11 days or so.
Didn't have this problem on the iOS 8.0.2 but now with 8.1 when on wifi everything works perfect. But when I'm out of wifi range, as in once the phone drops to 4G it attempts to do a sync.
Settings, photos showing a progress bar which is half way there.
In photos, I see the "updating" with a spinning throbber.
I have 60 photos that's all and they are all on the cloud already.
The minute I switch to wifi, the bar completes and the sync completes
Settings, photos showing a progress bar which is half way there.
In photos, I see the "updating" with a spinning throbber.
I have 60 photos that's all and they are all on the cloud already.
The minute I switch to wifi, the bar completes and the sync completes
Mine uploaded 178 photos and 20 videos (927 MB) in about 10 minutes. It hosed my iCloud backup though and I had to delete that and redo it. That took about an hour to upload 750 MB.
Both iCloud backup and iCloud photo library use Amazon's AWS to store data. Sometimes uploading to that is slow.
Both iCloud backup and iCloud photo library use Amazon's AWS to store data. Sometimes uploading to that is slow.
I tried turning it on and it said it would remove photos (over 3,000) that I synched from iTunes. Why would it remove them? This behavior isn't clear to me. If I want them on my phone, how can I get the photos on my Mac (that I synched via iTunes) onto my phone?
There's reports that iCloud photo library is compressing photos and videos stored in iCloud.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6614540
Also with iCloud Photo library enabled, it appears My PhotoStream photos are removed from the device. This can be confirmed by going to the local Storage usage setting and checking Photos and Camera Roll. I'm not sure if photos are still uploaded to My PhotoStream or. It.
There's also some reports that not all photos are being uploaded. That was a common problem with My PhotoStream and poor Wifi networks.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6614540
Also with iCloud Photo library enabled, it appears My PhotoStream photos are removed from the device. This can be confirmed by going to the local Storage usage setting and checking Photos and Camera Roll. I'm not sure if photos are still uploaded to My PhotoStream or. It.
There's also some reports that not all photos are being uploaded. That was a common problem with My PhotoStream and poor Wifi networks.
Mine's been bouncing around since I updated a few hours ago. Was in the mid 150's, now showing 32. Not sure why, really.
I was able to get the photos from my iPad uploaded to icloud photo.But this is the second try at getting the photos to upload from the phone. I tried earlier and it got to 358 (or so) and then got stuck there, so I turned icloud photo off and then back on to try again. but my iphone 6+ is stuck at 'uploading 827 files', which is where it started, and there is no movement. Very disappointing. Odder yet is that the ipad that had no trouble is not the newest one, while the phone is. You'd think the newer phone would have less trouble.
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11 days? How could that be. The feature was only added with todays ios8.1 update.
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I had that happen and turned ICPL off and then back on again to start over, but now it's stuck at the point where it started, so now ever worse off than before. It looked like I had gotten 500 items uploaded the last time before it froze, and now nothing is moving.
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Another question..The photos from my iPad got uploaded and I can view them on the icloud website with my Mac. Now what happens to the photos uploaded from my iPhone, many of which are the same as the ones that were uploaded from the ipad? Could this be why my phone is stuck uploading and showing no progress at all?
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11 days? How could that be. The feature was only added with todays ios8.1 update.
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I had that happen and turned ICPL off and then back on again to start over, but now it's stuck at the point where it started, so now ever worse off than before. It looked like I had gotten 500 items uploaded the last time before it froze, and now nothing is moving.
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Another question..The photos from my iPad got uploaded and I can view them on the icloud website with my Mac. Now what happens to the photos uploaded from my iPhone, many of which are the same as the ones that were uploaded from the ipad? Could this be why my phone is stuck uploading and showing no progress at all?