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iCloud Photos: What You Need to Know

nutmac said:
Dropbox's sole 1TB plan costs $0.12 per GB per year.

Google Drive costs $0.24 per GB per year for 100GB plan and $0.12 per GB per year for 1TB to 30TB plans.

Apple's iCloud costs whopping $0.59 per GB per year for 20GB plan and $0.24 per GB per year for 200-1TB plan.

Apple does not necessarily have to become cheapest, but I would like to see some pricing innovation, such as flat $9.99 per year for each 64GB increment ($0.16 per GB per year) consumed beyond free storage, with ability to share storage with family members.
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Yes, this. I'd also like to see the return of iDisk features..or what DropBox/Drive do now with file sharing, etc. I never really understood why Apple took this away as they were ahead of the game on it. I'd be all over it again if it came back.

But as it stands, my library of mostly raw files is huge and the cost is not worth it for just photos if you have an existing backup plan. I send what I need to PhotoStream when I need it.
 
JohhnyMagic said:
I'm using the beta photo app and can't figure out how to NOt DELETE something from all devices. As far as I can see, if I delete a photo from an iDevice or the cloud, it deletes the photo from everywhere. Am I missing something obvious? In other words, do I no longer have a master photo library?
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Photos app still works with iCloud Photo Library turned off.
 
After playing with Photos for a few days I will stick with iPhoto for now....

Photos might be faster but it's not visually appealing to me. To much white space everywhere and the way it displays years, collections etc. feels, I don't know, like desperately looking for a different way to show stuff.
 
iPhoto Migration <> Photos if iPhone already is using iPhone Cloud Sharing

Been reading through through the comments and trying to find an answer on other publications in regards to my problem, unfortunately with no luck still. Hopefully you guys can help me out.

I would love to switch to the OSX Photos app, but I'm concerned as to how things would get merged.

I have an iPhone 6 128GB running iOS 8.1.3 with 2000 photos which has iCloud Photo Sharing enabled with Photo Stream and iCloud Photo Sharing enabled.

I have a large 40GB iPhoto library (only 1 library) with many albums and events.

I haven't synced my phone with my iPhoto library ever. They are essentially 2 separate libraries in terms of photos and albums.

Questions:
1) When I migrate my iPhoto library to OSX Photos app what will happen to my events? Will all my albums just mirror on OSX Photos app?
2) Should I disable Photo Stream on my iPhone to prevent duplication on OSX Photos app ?
3) I will enable iCloud Photo Sharing on the OSX Photos app, will my photos/albums from my iPhone just also move to this library? What gets prioritized in the sync? My photos from OSX Photos app being uploaded to iCloud Photo Library or photos from my iPhone syncing to the OSX Phtoos app (due to iCloud Photo Library)?

Has anybody experienced this problem? If yes, what flow/approach did you take to minimize risk of loosing photos when the 2 devices (iPhoto library and iPhone library via iCloud Photo Sharing) are independent of each other.

Thanks
 
iOS 7.1.2 and iCloud Photo Library

If I have a iPhone 4s with iOS 7.1.2, can I still use this service?
 
ummmm

I haven't figured it out yet. Not intuitive... to me. I liked seeing all of my recent (1000) images on all of my devices. Where are they now? :confused:

A couple of hours later.

So.....
I had not messed with my iPad Air since this article came out and still had photo stream on it, so I figured I would restore my rMini and see what would happen. Luckily I had backed up my devices just one week ago.
It did restore and got my photo stream back. Happy camper now. I'm restoring my iPhone as I type this.
I always jump right into the frying pan with new stuff.
Glad I was able to get my stuff back. :)
I'll wait and see where this goes before trying again. The concept sounds great.
 
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paolik said:
What happens if the size of the library is such that it cannot fit on my iPhone even with optimized mode on?
I mean... I'm ok to pay for extra iCloud space and upload my entire photo library from the Mac. However, there are no doubts that at some point the size of the library will be larger than what can be squeezed on my iPhone. What will be the behavior at that point?
I was really hoping for the new Photo application to let the user decide which part of the library to upload and which part to keep local on the Mac. Was that really too complicated!?!?
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HvLee said:
Great, it immediately starts uploading my existing (iPhoto) photo's to the cloud, and my iPhone starts syncing. So what is the use of the cloud if my 16GB iPhone tries to sync with the 20GB cloud that has now been filled up by the photo app? :eek:
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MacRumors said:
...a more flexible optimized arrangement that stores originals locally if you have enough storage space but uses lower-resolution versions if local storage is tight and only downloads the full-resolution versions from iCloud as needed.

Similar settings are available on iOS, where users can choose between storing full-resolution photos right on their devices or saving some space by storing lower-resolution versions onboard and keeping the full-resolution version in iCloud.
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Right there in the article.
 
How to organize photos now without Events?

I'm really disappointed that Events has been removed. I feared it would happen and now it's a reality!

What is the best way now to organize photos? Moments is just a random collection of photos and it's impossible to label them or organize them into "Events" with proper names. Albums is also a poor substitute as it won't even sort albums by date properly and it's very difficult to create albums as you can't drag and drop photos as before. The expanded list of Event album folders in the left nav bar is also annoying.

Also, what ever happened to having a preview of photos in an album/event when moving your mouse across? With only one preview image per album it's hard to know exactly what's inside.

I'm quite frustrated with Photos...I love the idea of iCloud, but the organization and implementation is terrible.
 
How long????

The transition to Photos went very well although I do agree with others that it is a step down in features. My question concerns the icloud photo sharing. I have a 90gig library that has been uploading for 24 hours now and only about 28 gig has uploaded. Anyone think this is normal? I'm wondering if it will ever be completed.

And the photos are showing up on my iPhone but not my iPad. Any ideas about that?
 
My library is about 45GB and has been uploading for two days now and still has a long way to go.

My upload speed is 1MB max and while the Photo app is uploading my download speed is almost unusable (normally 12MB).

It's annoying my family as web browsing and Netflix streaming is suffering big time until this upload finishes.
 
Pug72 said:
My library is about 45GB and has been uploading for two days now and still has a long way to go.

My upload speed is 1MB max and while the Photo app is uploading my download speed is almost unusable (normally 12MB).

It's annoying my family as web browsing and Netflix streaming is suffering big time until this upload finishes.
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Same issues here. My library is 100GB+. Download speeds are severly slowed when the app is uploading. I open the app each night before going to bed and the progress really hasn't made much progress as far as I can see. I haven't written down the numbers but I still have 16,000+ items to upload which hasn't changed for 3 nights.

New pictures I take sync very quickly to the library from my iPhone or iPad. I was considering turning the feature off/on on my Mac but decided I would see if others have any known workarounds. Oh well, I'm pretty used to the Beta life.
 
iPhotos events - not showing in iOS or web?

I installed a few days ago and it's finally completed an upload of 17000 photos. I am noticing some odd behaviour though (though perhaps it's my misunderstanding).

It correctly recognises all my iPhoto events as "albums". It even moved them all into one folder called "iPhoto events". However these albums aren't showing up on my iPhone or in the iCloud web interface. This may be by design but the weird thing is that when I first installed it and started an upload - those albums did show up on my iPhone and on the web interface (though they were because the upload process only ran for 10 minutes or so before I aborted and restarted).

Even when I logged into the web interface half way through my second upload process the albums were showing on the website and had the correct photos in them this time- it was only when the upload completed that they disappeared.

Can it be that Photos will not sync albums to iOS devices and/or the iCloud website? That seems absolutely bizarre.

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Sorry - to chime in with my upload experience of a 80GB library - it took about 25 hours at speeds ranging from 6-30mbps. I took a break in the middle of 16 hours. However I noticed when I restarted the upload it hung on "updating" for several hours. I wasn't convinced anything was happening (the count on my iPhone wasn't increasing either) so eventually I restarted the computer and it jumped back into "uploading" and went A LOT quicker.
 
supes83 said:
I installed a few days ago and it's finally completed an upload of 17000 photos. I am noticing some odd behaviour though (though perhaps it's my misunderstanding).

It correctly recognises all my iPhoto events as "albums". It even moved them all into one folder called "iPhoto events". However these albums aren't showing up on my iPhone or in the iCloud web interface. This may be by design but the weird thing is that when I first installed it and started an upload - those albums did show up on my iPhone and on the web interface (though they were because the upload process only ran for 10 minutes or so before I aborted and restarted).

Even when I logged into the web interface half way through my second upload process the albums were showing on the website and had the correct photos in them this time- it was only when the upload completed that they disappeared.

Can it be that Photos will not sync albums to iOS devices and/or the iCloud website? That seems absolutely bizarre.

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Sorry - to chime in with my upload experience of a 80GB library - it took about 25 hours at speeds ranging from 6-30mbps. I took a break in the middle of 16 hours. However I noticed when I restarted the upload it hung on "updating" for several hours. I wasn't convinced anything was happening (the count on my iPhone wasn't increasing either) so eventually I restarted the computer and it jumped back into "uploading" and went A LOT quicker.
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Photos absolutely should sync albums across devices. It's done it fine with me. My only observation is that it needs to be done uploading everything in order for it to get to the albums. Maybe since your library is so ginormous, the albums haven't had a chance to sync yet.
 
Only 3000 photos left

Thank you all for the input. I have about 3000 photos left but unless something changes at the end, all of my photos will not be in the cloud. Mac says I have 26,300; icloud.com says I have 12,500; Mac says only 3000 left. I guess it's Beta.

I am 3 days into this and I sure hope all of my pictures actually make it. This will be a nightmare when it goes live. Too soon to say, but I think I may actually like Photos and storing in the cloud.
 
DribbleCastle said:
Same issues here. My library is 100GB+. Download speeds are severly slowed when the app is uploading. I open the app each night before going to bed and the progress really hasn't made much progress as far as I can see. I haven't written down the numbers but I still have 16,000+ items to upload which hasn't changed for 3 nights.

New pictures I take sync very quickly to the library from my iPhone or iPad. I was considering turning the feature off/on on my Mac but decided I would see if others have any known workarounds. Oh well, I'm pretty used to the Beta life.
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Never mind. My upload seems to be moving at a decent clip. I also forget that Comcast has never really been the king of upload speeds. Down around 12,500 as of this morning.
 
Re: Photos and iPhoto/Aperture Libs.

I have several libraries created using iPhoto /Aperture and other apps. These contain a good number of duplicated images. Does the new Photos app detect duplicates and would it allow the user to select which of these select/discard, and does the Photos app have the functionality to import from other apps.other than iPhoto/Aperture?

I don't have the need to have access to all of my pictures in all of my iOS devices; I might want to select a few of these. The bulk of my pictures I want to store in an external drive. Does the Photos app setting allows the user to accomplish that?

I also have a large number of pictures stored just in a finder folder and I want to include these in the Photos lib. Once imported, I want to delete all of these pictures. When I delete these pictures, the ones moved to the Photos lib are affected?

My goal is to consolidate all of my pictures (my guess is over 25K) in one place, free the space these pictures are now using and do better at managing what I now have.

A friend suggested I use Light Room instead of Photos to accomplish what I want to do and use iCloud only to have access to a few pictures on the IOS devices. What do you think about that idea?

Thanks for any input.
 
Importing error...

Does no one has problems with importing their library?

I have an aperture library of 170 Gb, 35k photos, and I've tried it numerous to import it in photos, but to no avail.

It always stops at about 90% with an unknown error that occurred.

I've tried rebuilding the library, did a fresh install of Yosemite but nothing seems to help.

Other - smaller - libraries import fine, but my main library doesn't. Any ideas?

I'd love to have my photos in the cloud...

Thanks!
 
Sure hope not

My upload to iCloud Photo Library began on Tuesday with 26,000 photos to upload. As of Sunday morning it is still uploading. Looks like about 3000 left. The speed has dropped to a snail's pace.

So I have not gotten an error message yet. Sure hope that doesn't happen. Go to icloud.com on your Mac and see how many photos you have there.

The download for me to both iPhone and iPad is also painfully slow.

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rivalbetony said:
I have several libraries created using iPhoto /Aperture and other apps. These contain a good number of duplicated images. Does the new Photos app detect duplicates and would it allow the user to select which of these select/discard, and does the Photos app have the functionality to import from other apps.other than iPhoto/Aperture?

I don't have the need to have access to all of my pictures in all of my iOS devices; I might want to select a few of these. The bulk of my pictures I want to store in an external drive. Does the Photos app setting allows the user to accomplish that?

I also have a large number of pictures stored just in a finder folder and I want to include these in the Photos lib. Once imported, I want to delete all of these pictures. When I delete these pictures, the ones moved to the Photos lib are affected?

My goal is to consolidate all of my pictures (my guess is over 25K) in one place, free the space these pictures are now using and do better at managing what I now have.

A friend suggested I use Light Room instead of Photos to accomplish what I want to do and use iCloud only to have access to a few pictures on the IOS devices. What do you think about that idea?

Thanks for any input.
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You cannot accomplish what you want in Photos. You would need to do all that revision before turning on iCloud Photo Library. So I suggest you do it all in your current iPhoto library first. I did that myself since you can only move one library to icloud.
Lightroom would probably work also but I know iphoto will.
 
Still an Aperture user here but a few questions...

I wonder if it is better to have 2 libraries, one is a Locally-stored EVERYTHING library. then take my 4 & 5 Star-rated photos (which would just 'convert' to Favorites--yuck!) and create a second library that would be synced to iCloud.

Then when importing on the MBP on vacation or in general, they'd go to the Favorites Cloud library. This enables me to review and then have a copy on the iMac (Main Machine) and then I could export (I guess) with Photos these last imports and put them onto my local library. then delete all the newly uploaded photos, with the exception of new Favorites.

Then I would have a Favorited Cloud library to view everywhere.
PLUS, a second Everything library stored locally.

every so often, I can push the Favorite Cloud library to the Main Local Library in case I have updated any photo edits and they match.


Does this make sense to anyone currently using Photos? and the Cloud portion of it?


Thanks in advance!
 
When does an upload happen from an IOS device

Hi,

so far i'm more or less clear how the new iCloud photo mediathek works. However it is absolutely not clear for me how the upload from an IOS device works.

I mean with the old photo stream it was clear -> as soon as i had a WIFI connection, more than 20% battery and the camera closed all new photos got uploaded. Independently if the fotos app was open or not.

How the upload off the iCloud photo library works is absolutely not clear for me. Sometimes photos get uploaded immediately, without having the fotos app open. Sometimes it does only upload fotos as long as the fotos app is running and the IOS device is not in standby....sometimes also during the standby....sometimes not at all........?????

Does someone know the rules? Are there official rules? Does someone know exactly how it works?

Thanks
bmodi
 
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