If Apple is super rich why would they value profit margin more than their loyal fans?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by DBZmusicboy01, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. DBZmusicboy01 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 30, 2011
    The iPhone 6 was not a huge update as they were making it seem like.
    Very disappointing spec update for such a super hyped device.
    They could easily had put 2GB of RAM and for the 6S they could just put 4 core processor. But why only give it 1GB in late 2014? and then also still have 16GB of Memory.
    Apple is already super rich and they value their profit more than fans..
    Just like how they will charge $350 for a watch with limited features.

    This is not the Apple I am proud of...
    Steve Jobs would not had let all this pricing insane. Besides I am pretty sure Steve would had demanded 2GB of RAM. He would not had liked Safari reloading so easily after 3 tabs.

    My huge rant.
    I hope Apple reads this somehow... I am not happy that they are treating their loyal long time fans like trash.
  2. phobic99 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 3, 2008
    Apple is still a business. Businesses typically have a goal of making more money. Apple likes making money.

    Pretty simple I'd say but you don't have to take my word for it.
  3. ZBoater macrumors G3


    Jul 2, 2007
    Sunny Florida
    Because that's how they get to be super rich.
  4. saltd macrumors 6502a


    Aug 1, 2010
    This is the correct answer.
  5. Steviejobz macrumors 68000

    Jun 19, 2010
    As a shareholder since 2006, I don't mind one bit. The stock price has more than paid for anything I've ever bought from them
  6. patrickdunn macrumors 6502a


    Apr 16, 2009
    St. Louis, MO
    They have a responsibility to the shareholders = maximize profits.

    Vote with your dollars, that's the only vote that matters.
  7. stuffradio macrumors 65816

    Mar 17, 2009
    I don't think any other reply after this one can answer it any better. Mods can delete my post, and the ones before mine up until this post and close the thread.
  8. 617aircav Suspended

    Jul 2, 2012
    These threads keep getting dumber and dumber.
  9. nostresshere macrumors 68030

    Dec 30, 2010

    Some of the stuff posted on here makes me wonder how the human race will survive.
  10. cynics macrumors G4

    Jan 8, 2012
    Firstly they are a business which like most are out to make the maximum amount of money. Kind of goes without saying. I'm not defending that as a good thing, just the way it is.

    Secondly. Their loyal fans value user experience not specs. Because like every Apple product the specs have always been weak comparatively speaking. I'd question a loyal fans creditability that was surprised that Apples hardware wasn't the latest and greats. That said they still lead in certain areas (64 bit, touch ID, screen color accuracy, camera quality w/o specs overkill, build material quality, etc).

    Third. You mention the 6 isn't much of an upgrade but just point out RAM? If the 6 had more RAM then its a huge upgrade? Quad core? We aren't even scratching at the A7's max capability yet.

    Four. RAM in relation to user experience. App reloading is a given, iOS and other mobile OS's utilize RAM to suspend apps. Once RAM is used up for foreground processes suspended background apps reload. Its annoying and more RAM should help fix that. Tab reloading, I haven't found a convincing argument that it can't be fixed with software like other mobile OS's with higher PPI screens with similar amounts of RAM. The only good counter comment I've seen is "If it can be fixed with software then why hasn't it?", touché to that.

    That said that doesn't mean Apple doesn't have plans for iOS in the future. With iOS 9 all devices running it should be 1gb of RAM at least. In Mavericks apple introduced memory compression which may be something that can be integrated into iOS much more efficiently using RAM.
  11. mantan macrumors 68000

    Nov 2, 2009
    Apple goals are no different than an insurance company, a cell phone carrier, a pharmaceutical company or big oil...to maximize profits. (of course we demonize those companies for making 10% of the profit margin Apple gets...)

    Thinking they care about you as a 'loyal fan' is laughable. They want your money. They sell expensive gadgets and dupe you on believing your part of an experience.

    I like their stuff too. But understand I'm paying a big azz premium for it.
  12. MICHAELSD macrumors 68040


    Jul 13, 2008
    Apple is a business as others have said.

    They're not a charity.

    They could easily charge more for their products but at least they're competitive.
  13. OneMike macrumors 603


    Oct 19, 2005
    Because you become super rich by running a business. Sure the customer matters, but you're in a business to make money.
  14. scaredpoet macrumors 604


    Apr 6, 2007
    Apple has no obligation to you, and you have no obligation to Apple. They offer a enw version of their phone. If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's that simple.

    First off, you don't know Steve Jobs, and have no earthly clue what he would have wanted.

    Second, he's dead. Apple must move on, and so should you.

    How is providing less RAM than you expected treating their fans like trash? Do you honestly think Tim Cook and Jony Ive sat in a boardroom laughing evilly, thinking up dastardly ways to REALLY stick it to their customers?
  15. Taco1933 macrumors 6502

    Aug 14, 2014
    Because apple has shareholders. It isn't your friend. It's a business.
  16. iphone5att64 macrumors 6502

    Sep 19, 2012
    Sounds like you were always on the Tock cycle for upgrades. You would be sympathetic if you were on the tick cycle with iPhone 3G, iPhone 4, iPad 1, iPad 3.
  17. scaredpoet macrumors 604


    Apr 6, 2007
    And you would be wrong about that. Up to now I've owned every model iPhone except the 5c.

    This has nothing to do with upgrade cycles. But if it did, why not just jump to Tock?

    I'm sympathetic to no one who labors under the delusion that they have some magical link with an individual who is no longer alive. Such that they think they can make an appeal in that dead person's name and claim that they know what that person wants and that his successors are doing it wrong.

    If you've fallen in love with a corporation, and now are falling out of love because they're not doing what you want, and you're taking it personally, then you need to face a very harsh truth: that love affair was nowhere close to being requited. Ever. You should be falling in love with people... preferably ones you've met. Not corporations.
  18. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

    Oct 9, 2007
    If you can't make your point without a "Steve would not have..." then you don't actually have a point at all.

    The fact is the no one knows what Jobs would do in any situation. But if I had to pick someone likely to guess correctly, I'd go with Tim Cook and Jonathan Ive than someone ranting on a message board
  19. accountforit macrumors 6502a

    Jan 22, 2014
    Does it matter how many cores, or how much RAM, a phone has when they can hang and sometimes beat their competition with less?

    Nope, it doesn't. Reading specs on a piece of marketing material doesn't make for a better phone.

    Apple's "loyal fans" would know that by now.
  20. ZBoater macrumors G3


    Jul 2, 2007
    Sunny Florida
    Mr. Cook, is that you?
  21. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

    Oct 9, 2007
    Then you're not buying enough stuff. ;)

    Seriously though, I was out of Apple from Dec. 30 till Apr 28th.

    I've earned 12.5 128GB iphone 6 Pluses just in these 4 ½ months.
  22. Gathomblipoob macrumors 601


    Mar 18, 2009
  23. 2IS macrumors 68030

    Jan 9, 2011
    The S variants have typically sported more impressive spec bumps while non S are focused more on design/engineering. Nothing different here.
  24. accountforit macrumors 6502a

    Jan 22, 2014
    Says the guy who is still buying Apple products.

    You forgot to quote the statement that you had no rebuttal too. Don't worry friend. Here it is again:

    "Does it matter how many cores, or how much RAM, a phone has when they can hang and sometimes beat their competition with less?"

    You are the type of guy that talks bad about his family behind their backs and kisses their ass when in their presence. AKA....the worse kind.
  25. spyda macrumors 6502a


    Jun 30, 2009

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