If Steve jobs was still here ....

[jsmith189]

Stop assuming to know Steve or what he would have done. For all we know, he could have gone crazy and driven Apple into the ground and we wouldn't even be getting iPhones anymore. I guess at least then we could stop making threads about ~the notch~.

 

[Septembersrain]

He's not. End of story.

Seriously though, he wasn't perfect. People tend to glorify the dead and overlook their flaws and imperfections.

 

[Gathomblipoob]

People tend to glorify the dead and overlook their flaws and imperfections.

Heck, people do that to me now. 😀

 

[KGB7]

Steve would tell you all to shut up and buy it.

What's your point?

It's a crap idea on the 6 (which also has it) and all following iphones as well.

Apple often make stupid decisions lately. This blind need to defend their screw-ups will only lead to further screw ups. If a company really makes bad decisions we need to let them know its not good enough.

As to "if steve was alive", i think it's relevant. The current leadership seem to hold Steve with such reverence and dedicate stuff to him, etc. but they're really screwing with his vision in my opinion.

The current designs would have never passed final QA (i.e., Steve himself) when he was still running the show. Steve just didn't tolerate crap.

What's my point??

That none of you have done a single thing to prevent another camera bump or another disaster that you don't like.

Go build a bird house, instead of bitching about camera bumps and notches.

If Steve was around, you wouldnt have a clue what he would have done or said. The man is dead, leave him alone.

 

[TroyBoy30]

hed smell pretty bad by now if he was still here

 

[throAU]

We knew him from his keynotes, books, movies, and interviews. That is sort of like knowing Steve Jobs.

Also from the way he ran his companies, his drive to deliver his visions, etc.

i mean, just look up the history of NEXT. so much of the NEXT tech lives on in ios and macos today. back when next was being developed plenty of the team thought it was nigh impossible. ditto for the mac team for that matter.

none of these recent products are on that level. they are all safe, easy, boring releases, including major errors on style and ui functionality.

i think what we are seeing as of late is jony ive let off the leash without steve to do the QA on his first few drafts of a concept; by saying something like "hey jony this design is crap because x y z!"

and because no one was previously in the position to do that before, no one has the confidence to hold him accountable now because he was pretty close to steve as i understand with their design work.

 

[KGB7]

Your boy Steve refused to go with bigger screen, while every other company was coming out with phones with larger screens.

And what did Steve say? "Nobody is going to buy an iPhone with larger screen". There was even a picture from apple how a small screen is perfect to be used with a thumb.

People wanted iPhone with larger screen. At the end of the day, people bought small screen iPhones and loved it. So much for so called innovation from Steve.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Apple, Please take note:

 

[MrXiro]

With Steve Jobs paying so much attention asthetics, no way would he have allowed the iPhone X to have that huge camera system covering the top part and ruining the looks of the iPhone X.

Most of Jobs his patents were about the looks and feels of his products, so yeah ....

I think I wil wait for the 2nd generation where they hopefully will make it look better.

Jobs also chose ignore his doctors and go for a homeopathic remedy when his cancer came back and died as a result of it... and told the customers "you're holding it wrong" when there was a design issue with the iPhone 4.

You don't know what he would have done...

Stop acting like you actually know anything in regards to him.
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Your boy Steve refused to go with bigger screen, while every other company was coming out with phones with larger screens.

And what did Steve say? "Nobody is going to buy an iPhone with larger screen". There was even a picture from apple how a small screen is perfect to be used with a thumb.

People wanted iPhone with larger screen. At the end of the day, people bought small screen iPhones and loved it. So much for so called innovation from Steve.

Yeah for all we know we'd still be on a 4 inch screen with no NFC or Qi charging.

 

[ronincse]

So a few thoughts:

First off it is PAINFULLY obvious that when people use the phrase (or a variant): "Oh Steve Jobs would never have done this!" all they are really saying is: "I don't like this and thus I have to assume Steve wouldn't have either". No one knows what Steve Jobs would or wouldn't have done or approved.

Steve Jobs also wasn't some infallible being. As has been pointed out he thought big phones were dumb and wouldn't sell which has been proven to be absolutely false and of course we all remember antenna gate.

Also a little logic: If we do want to believe that Steve Jobs was somehow better than everyone else and would still be running Apple perfectly and with no mistakes then we have to believe he knew perfectly what he was doing when he picked Tim Cook to lead Apple...so which is it?

Personally I have preferred my Apple products in the last few years more than the older ones. I loved it when everything went flat in iOS 7, I like the bigger screens, I think holding these new iPhones is much nicer thanks to the rounded edges, etc...

So to wrap it up: people need to stop using the "Steve would never..." phrase in order to prop up their own opinions

 

[Dirtydutch]

Did he build the foundation of course, Steve got them here, but it's always harder to stay at the top than it is to get to the top, and their value has only increased every year to the point that they will be the first trillion dollar company soon. I think Cook and co. have done a fine job since his departure.

 

[ajones92]

can't stand these stupid threads. IMO if Steve were alive the iPhone would be way further back than it is. That's coming from a huge Steve Jobs fan but the dude was sort of stuck in his ways until he had no choice. We'd probably just now be getting a larger screen phone and possibly touch id since out of the gate it was far from 100%. I at least respect Cook for trying new things and adding in features that customers want. IMO I think no way Apple adds QI charging to the iPhone. They probably wait until WattUp is ready. Some may prefer that but i'll take the occasional half baked features myself as long as we keep progress going.

 

[throAU]

Your boy Steve refused to go with bigger screen, while every other company was coming out with phones with larger screens.

And what did Steve say? "Nobody is going to buy an iPhone with larger screen". There was even a picture from apple how a small screen is perfect to be used with a thumb.

People wanted iPhone with larger screen. At the end of the day, people bought small screen iPhones and loved it. So much for so called innovation from Steve.

You know what?

After having had an iphone 6, 6 plus and 7, i miss the usability of my 4s.

the fact that apple has been doing their best to make the 4s size unusable via iOS ui change in order to force people into larger more expensive handsets doesn’t mean steve was wrong in that there were advantages to the smaller form factor you could use with one hand.

Size of a device is nothing to do with “innovation”. That’s just a scaling factor.

Innovation is doing new things with hardware and software, finding new ways of making use of technology.

 

[Ralfi]

I wasn't a big follower of Steve Jobs, but I would hope he didn't do the rounds with morning TV like Tim Cook is.....cringy.

 

[Technarchy]

If you watch the iPhone reveal in 2007, and the iPhone 4 reveal in 2010, Steve was like a proud papa. He had this gleam in eyes.

He knew there was something special about what his team had made. He spent nearly an hour showing not just specs but how the product solved problems, and in some way changed the way people use tech on the entire planet.

Now Craig Federighi is making faces for animated poop emoji, and there is a notch in the way of the UI and UX. And everyone has said this reveal was so glum and the staff didn't seem into it or especially proud...Small wonder...

 

[44267547]

I wasn't a big follower of Steve Jobs, but I would hope he didn't do the rounds with morning TV like Tim Cook is.....cringy.

They definitely have different attributes between each other. But I have a lot of respect for Tim Cook and his composure with Apple. I know many appreciated Steve Jobs and his visionary status, but both Cook and Jobs are different, which there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[Ralfi]

They definitely have different attributes between each other. But I have a lot of respect for Tim Cook and his composure with Apple. I know many appreciated Steve Jobs and his visionary status, but both Cook and Jobs are different, which there is nothing wrong with that.

Main gripe wasn't with Cook btw. The cringe is more from the TV show & their cliché hosts. Apple doesn't need their gushing to sell products, but as you say, Tim has his style..respect for that.

 

[JayIsAwesome]

Steve Jobs is dead. Please let him RIP

 

[titrau]

Steve Jobs is dead. Please let him RIP

This funny ....

Tim alway said = His DNA still around and he feel steve attend every event 😎

 

[KGB7]

You know what?

After having had an iphone 6, 6 plus and 7, i miss the usability of my 4s.

the fact that apple has been doing their best to make the 4s size unusable via iOS ui change in order to force people into larger more expensive handsets doesn’t mean steve was wrong in that there were advantages to the smaller form factor you could use with one hand.

Size of a device is nothing to do with “innovation”. That’s just a scaling factor.

Innovation is doing new things with hardware and software, finding new ways of making use of technology.

Except when apple does something weird like removing a headphone jack, they call that innovation.
Bold text? Innovation.
Adding wireless charging? Innovation.

And apple has sold this so called innovation for years to its customers.

 

[mixel]

When Steve died I didn’t think Apple would change much. This is the year that I can say that without a doubt I was wrong. If he were alive today we definitely wouldn’t have seen a notch on the X or a talking poo emoji during the keynote. Steve knew how to keep those clowns in line.

You're talking about the guy who held an on stage funeral for Mac OS 9. Haha.

Steve loved his kitsch, people just remember whatever they want. He did crazy demo stuff all the time.

 

[Rob198612]

There wouldn’t be a plus version he felt the perfect size of the phone was 5”