Stop assuming to know Steve or what he would have done. For all we know, he could have gone crazy and driven Apple into the ground and we wouldn't even be getting iPhones anymore. I guess at least then we could stop making threads about ~the notch~.
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If Steve jobs was still here ....
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He's not. End of story.
Seriously though, he wasn't perfect. People tend to glorify the dead and overlook their flaws and imperfections.
Seriously though, he wasn't perfect. People tend to glorify the dead and overlook their flaws and imperfections.
Steve would tell you all to shut up and buy it.
What's my point??
That none of you have done a single thing to prevent another camera bump or another disaster that you don't like.
Go build a bird house, instead of bitching about camera bumps and notches.
If Steve was around, you wouldnt have a clue what he would have done or said. The man is dead, leave him alone.
What's my point??
That none of you have done a single thing to prevent another camera bump or another disaster that you don't like.
Go build a bird house, instead of bitching about camera bumps and notches.
If Steve was around, you wouldnt have a clue what he would have done or said. The man is dead, leave him alone.
Also from the way he ran his companies, his drive to deliver his visions, etc.
i mean, just look up the history of NEXT. so much of the NEXT tech lives on in ios and macos today. back when next was being developed plenty of the team thought it was nigh impossible. ditto for the mac team for that matter.
none of these recent products are on that level. they are all safe, easy, boring releases, including major errors on style and ui functionality.
i think what we are seeing as of late is jony ive let off the leash without steve to do the QA on his first few drafts of a concept; by saying something like "hey jony this design is crap because x y z!"
and because no one was previously in the position to do that before, no one has the confidence to hold him accountable now because he was pretty close to steve as i understand with their design work.
Your boy Steve refused to go with bigger screen, while every other company was coming out with phones with larger screens.
And what did Steve say? "Nobody is going to buy an iPhone with larger screen". There was even a picture from apple how a small screen is perfect to be used with a thumb.
People wanted iPhone with larger screen. At the end of the day, people bought small screen iPhones and loved it. So much for so called innovation from Steve.
And what did Steve say? "Nobody is going to buy an iPhone with larger screen". There was even a picture from apple how a small screen is perfect to be used with a thumb.
People wanted iPhone with larger screen. At the end of the day, people bought small screen iPhones and loved it. So much for so called innovation from Steve.
Jobs also chose ignore his doctors and go for a homeopathic remedy when his cancer came back and died as a result of it... and told the customers "you're holding it wrong" when there was a design issue with the iPhone 4.
You don't know what he would have done...
Stop acting like you actually know anything in regards to him.
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Yeah for all we know we'd still be on a 4 inch screen with no NFC or Qi charging.
So a few thoughts:
First off it is PAINFULLY obvious that when people use the phrase (or a variant): "Oh Steve Jobs would never have done this!" all they are really saying is: "I don't like this and thus I have to assume Steve wouldn't have either". No one knows what Steve Jobs would or wouldn't have done or approved.
Steve Jobs also wasn't some infallible being. As has been pointed out he thought big phones were dumb and wouldn't sell which has been proven to be absolutely false and of course we all remember antenna gate.
Also a little logic: If we do want to believe that Steve Jobs was somehow better than everyone else and would still be running Apple perfectly and with no mistakes then we have to believe he knew perfectly what he was doing when he picked Tim Cook to lead Apple...so which is it?
Personally I have preferred my Apple products in the last few years more than the older ones. I loved it when everything went flat in iOS 7, I like the bigger screens, I think holding these new iPhones is much nicer thanks to the rounded edges, etc...
So to wrap it up: people need to stop using the "Steve would never..." phrase in order to prop up their own opinions
First off it is PAINFULLY obvious that when people use the phrase (or a variant): "Oh Steve Jobs would never have done this!" all they are really saying is: "I don't like this and thus I have to assume Steve wouldn't have either". No one knows what Steve Jobs would or wouldn't have done or approved.
Steve Jobs also wasn't some infallible being. As has been pointed out he thought big phones were dumb and wouldn't sell which has been proven to be absolutely false and of course we all remember antenna gate.
Also a little logic: If we do want to believe that Steve Jobs was somehow better than everyone else and would still be running Apple perfectly and with no mistakes then we have to believe he knew perfectly what he was doing when he picked Tim Cook to lead Apple...so which is it?
Personally I have preferred my Apple products in the last few years more than the older ones. I loved it when everything went flat in iOS 7, I like the bigger screens, I think holding these new iPhones is much nicer thanks to the rounded edges, etc...
So to wrap it up: people need to stop using the "Steve would never..." phrase in order to prop up their own opinions
Did he build the foundation of course, Steve got them here, but it's always harder to stay at the top than it is to get to the top, and their value has only increased every year to the point that they will be the first trillion dollar company soon. I think Cook and co. have done a fine job since his departure.
can't stand these stupid threads. IMO if Steve were alive the iPhone would be way further back than it is. That's coming from a huge Steve Jobs fan but the dude was sort of stuck in his ways until he had no choice. We'd probably just now be getting a larger screen phone and possibly touch id since out of the gate it was far from 100%. I at least respect Cook for trying new things and adding in features that customers want. IMO I think no way Apple adds QI charging to the iPhone. They probably wait until WattUp is ready. Some may prefer that but i'll take the occasional half baked features myself as long as we keep progress going.
You know what?
After having had an iphone 6, 6 plus and 7, i miss the usability of my 4s.
the fact that apple has been doing their best to make the 4s size unusable via iOS ui change in order to force people into larger more expensive handsets doesn’t mean steve was wrong in that there were advantages to the smaller form factor you could use with one hand.
Size of a device is nothing to do with “innovation”. That’s just a scaling factor.
Innovation is doing new things with hardware and software, finding new ways of making use of technology.
If you watch the iPhone reveal in 2007, and the iPhone 4 reveal in 2010, Steve was like a proud papa. He had this gleam in eyes.
He knew there was something special about what his team had made. He spent nearly an hour showing not just specs but how the product solved problems, and in some way changed the way people use tech on the entire planet.
Now Craig Federighi is making faces for animated poop emoji, and there is a notch in the way of the UI and UX. And everyone has said this reveal was so glum and the staff didn't seem into it or especially proud...Small wonder...
He knew there was something special about what his team had made. He spent nearly an hour showing not just specs but how the product solved problems, and in some way changed the way people use tech on the entire planet.
Now Craig Federighi is making faces for animated poop emoji, and there is a notch in the way of the UI and UX. And everyone has said this reveal was so glum and the staff didn't seem into it or especially proud...Small wonder...
They definitely have different attributes between each other. But I have a lot of respect for Tim Cook and his composure with Apple. I know many appreciated Steve Jobs and his visionary status, but both Cook and Jobs are different, which there is nothing wrong with that.
Main gripe wasn't with Cook btw. The cringe is more from the TV show & their cliché hosts. Apple doesn't need their gushing to sell products, but as you say, Tim has his style..respect for that.
This funny ....
Tim alway said = His DNA still around and he feel steve attend every event
Except when apple does something weird like removing a headphone jack, they call that innovation.
Bold text? Innovation.
Adding wireless charging? Innovation.
And apple has sold this so called innovation for years to its customers.
You're talking about the guy who held an on stage funeral for Mac OS 9. Haha.
Steve loved his kitsch, people just remember whatever they want. He did crazy demo stuff all the time.
