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Will an ongoing ban keep you from buying a future Apple Watch

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Actually, I looked it up before I posted. Series 6 came out in September 2020 at the height of the pandemic, before vaccinations and before in-home testing became available.
Thanks for the correction.

All the tracking of oxygen and I didn't get COVID until December of last year. I unknowingly gave it to family as well, which was my biggest fear with my dying mother.
 
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Correct and that's why I said if my health changed, I might feel different. Would it be nice to have? Sure. Would not having it stop me from purchasing it? Not today.

A CGM monitor would be extremely beneficial if I were a diabetic and fortunately I am not. A watch having that feature would not be make or break for me either. Having the data would be nice but it's not the reason I purchase the Apple Watch. So saying things may change in the future with my health, has no bearing on my decision today.

Pretty much this. Additionally, having all the other heath monitoring metrics is better than not having them, and i don’t believe there’s any other smartwatch on the market with anywhere near the level of monitoring and trending that the apple watch gives you with or without the oxygen level monitoring
 

If the Apple Watch ban is upheld...​


then apple will eventually not be able to even have enough Series 9 and Ultra 2 to continue its usual way of "repairing" one of these models. meaning, they wouldn't have enough replacement units available since its current available inventory of unsold units is finite.

but its worse. its likely available stock of Series 7 and Series 8 and Ultra (1) , which all use the same blood oxygen sensors as the Series 9 and Ultra 2, would also be impacted by the ban, for repairs.

this date when it will run out of inventory for repairs is what provides to apple its actual "must solve by" deadline.
 
The amount of people who can actually make us of that sensor is EXTREMELY small. I don’t doubt that Apple put it in AW because it was easy to do back then and very good to market it, but the real value of it is zero. On the other hand if they switched it with BGM, damn that would be amazing.
 
I’d prefer a watch that did time, music and steps. No heart rate etc as it doesn’t help my anxiety.

That being said I often think that the Apple Watch depreciation is bad so it would be better to buy a premium brand like tag or omega etc that appreciates.
 
The o2 app and senser is vital to me, so yes, I wouldn't buy another Apple Watch and switch to an android watch instead. (even though I really don't like the design of any of the android watches right now)
 
Ehh I played with the oximeter it when I first got my apple watch and have pretty much forgot about it since. It's not a factor for me. I'm a healthy individual and have never had a reading less than 98-99% with my PCP. If that wasn't the case, maybe I would feel different.
Same here. And if I was concerned for some reason (like if I was really sick or whatever) then I'd just use a standalone oximeter that clips onto the finger.
 
This obsession with tracking every little thing is more of a concern than helpful IMO. I get that healthcare in different parts of the world have their own issues but it feels like people are using Apple watches as a potential replacement for it. I’m all about life saving stuff like fall detection, etc, but all these federally unapproved sensors just seem like potential legal issues in the future.

Kind of feels like if you don’t have an Apple Watch then you’ll probably just die ha.
 
3 , only this answer matters 😅
As you can see from the picture, the 3 you took the time to point out appears to be a glitch in their software.
 

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The amount of people who can actually make us of that sensor is EXTREMELY small. I don’t doubt that Apple put it in AW because it was easy to do back then and very good to market it, but the real value of it is zero. On the other hand if they switched it with BGM, damn that would be amazing.
The real value of the oxygen sensor is zero?!? That specifically matters to me and is one reason why the nursing staff i. Dialysis told me about the watch. A BGM would, on the other hand, be useless to me. But I wouldn’t call or term it useless b/c I know that it possesses utility to others.

Tom
 
Same here. And if I was concerned for some reason (like if I was really sick or whatever) then I'd just use a standalone oximeter that clips onto the finger.
Sure, but I can and do use those when at the hospital. The AW goes with me all the time. I can coorelate feeling crappy with low O2, report that to medical staff, get an Hg test and the. Possibly some more Erythropoeitin > Tom feels less crappy and the heart attack is a little further off.

Tom

edit: I use Sleep/Health/Autosleep > potential adjustment of anti anxiety medication/sleep aids
Heart rate/Heartwatch > potential adjustment of 2 beta blockers I take

As mentioned, I could move over to Garmin, but all of my computational devices are Apple, with the exception of a Chromebook that acts as a server for a computer chess board. Having the Apple watch unlock clamshelled Macbooks is priceless considering I make my passwords too complex.
 
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The oximeter is one of the main reasons I got the Apple watch so I'm not sure if I would want to be carrying around a separate one. I have congestive heart failure and an irregular, slow heart rate after a botched attempt to fix AFib. So the ability to monitor things like blood oxygen and heart rate quickly without hunting for something is important to me. I have to say I don't rely on the accuracy of either though since the defibrillator/pacemaker that resides in my chest when interrogated says that there have been no AFib episodes at all since it was installed, and the Apple watch continues to say I am having episodes. Apparently the Apple watch cannot tell the difference between AFib and PVC's which are harmless. That said I do like the watch and am not sure whether this would stop me from getting another down the road.
 
This obsession with tracking every little thing is more of a concern than helpful IMO. I get that healthcare in different parts of the world have their own issues but it feels like people are using Apple watches as a potential replacement for it. I’m all about life saving stuff like fall detection, etc, but all these federally unapproved sensors just seem like potential legal issues in the future.

Kind of feels like if you don’t have an Apple Watch then you’ll probably just die ha.
I disagree with this, I also have anxiety disorders and being able to check things like O2sats and heart rate without having to search for another piece of equipment, is reassuring to me. It helps to show me that everything is fine so I can relax. Heart rate spikes during an episode that drip quickly also is reassuring. It isn't the exact number reading that is important, it is knowing that things drop back into a normal range quickly. Like I said in my first post I know that the watch isn't absolutely accurate, but that really doesn't matter.
 
I’d prefer a watch that did time, music and steps. No heart rate etc as it doesn’t help my anxiety.

That being said I often think that the Apple Watch depreciation is bad so it would be better to buy a premium brand like tag or omega etc that appreciates.
If you go down the premium watch route you need to factor in servicing, which on my Omega cost £700 last time it was done. It is needed roughly every 5 to 8 years depending on make, model, movement (mechanical costs more and in some cases reduces the service interval) and usage. Once you factor in the cost of servicing, premium watches aren’t the appreciating asset people think they are. While mine has gone up in value as it’s a rare model, I’m spending almost the cost of an Apple Watch Ultra just to keep it working. Of course it won’t depreciate like an Apple Watch but buy one because you like it rather than the investment potential.
 
If you go down the premium watch route you need to factor in servicing, which on my Omega cost £700 last time it was done. It is needed roughly every 5 to 8 years depending on make, model, movement (mechanical costs more and in some cases reduces the service interval) and usage. Once you factor in the cost of servicing, premium watches aren’t the appreciating asset people think they are. While mine has gone up in value as it’s a rare model, I’m spending almost the cost of an Apple Watch Ultra just to keep it working. Of course it won’t depreciate like an Apple Watch but buy one because you like it rather than the investment potential.
Didn’t realise they needed servicing like that. I had a tag carrera in 2006 but sold it after 2 years because I didn’t wear it much due to being worried about it getting damaged etc.. but even in that time it went up a few hundred when I sold it.
 
If you go down the premium watch route you need to factor in servicing, which on my Omega cost £700 last time it was done. It is needed roughly every 5 to 8 years depending on make, model, movement (mechanical costs more and in some cases reduces the service interval) and usage. Once you factor in the cost of servicing, premium watches aren’t the appreciating asset people think they are. While mine has gone up in value as it’s a rare model, I’m spending almost the cost of an Apple Watch Ultra just to keep it working. Of course it won’t depreciate like an Apple Watch but buy one because you like it rather than the investment potential.

This.

Also, only relatively few, very specific brands/models actually appreciate, the vast majority depreciate.

Also, none of them has even 1/100 of the functionality of an Apple Watch. So they may be pretty, but they are certainly dumb (as in: not smart).
 
I'm not american and enjoying my S9.

Hopefully Apple get their **** together and sort this out by the time I decide to replace my Watch. I'm sure they will because they will be losing a lot of money from lack of sales and having to deal with legal ****. They should've just worked with the company to avoid this. I'm glad to see it get banned in the US. Apple need to remember they aren't above the law.
 
If I need an Oxygen sensor for health, I'd rather rely on a dedicated device. I wouldn't rely on a watch.
You definitely shouldn't rely on a watch but it's good to use for early warnings or just getting an idea of something not being right.

I'm quite healthy but my family has history of heart problems so chances are that at some point in my life I'll have heart problems. The watch is great for monitoring heart rate and blood oxygen. Sometimes I'll do the ECG if i'm not feeling too great. If I ever think that something isn't right then yeah I'll go straight to a professional. Last time I was really ill and thought I was going to die (it was not heart related) I got an ECG by paramedics. In that situation of course I wouldn't rely on a Watch. If I thought I was having heart problems I'd not be using my watch. I'd be going to a doctor/hospital.
 
I used it during Covid and I’ve used it a couple other times when I had upper respiratory crud, but I’d likely just buy a fingertip one and call it a day if it wasn’t on my watch. I use my EKG more since my cardiologist actually recommended it, and I can send the info directly to his office.

However, since my main use for the AW is a watch with the ability to see anything coming that’s critical, I’d likely continue to buy them.
 
I personally doubt the pulse oximeter in the watch is especially accurate so no.
I have the Ultra and a finger pulse oximeter. I used to compare the two when I first got my watch.

The Ultra is pretty much spot on to the oximeter. If they are a percentage off its usually a 1-2 second lag on the watch and they then are in line again. I have never seen it off by more than a percentage.

I decided to look at the chart in the health app and over the last year there have been maybe 3 or 4 weird readings below the 95% with one in the 80s.

That very low reading could have been an error since all the other readings were above 97% that day. Although looking back at my other health data something might have been going on too.

Anyway, I thought that blood oxygen was used when determining VO2 max but apparently its not. That makes the sensor less of a concern for me to have.
 
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