If youre a photographer you should not get a Retina MacBook Pro

[chrono1081]

After a few weeks deciding that I should sell my late 2011 Macbook pro and get a Retina Macbook pro I have decided not to. Here are my reasons on why I will not be getting one from a photographer’s point of view.

1. Adobe Photoshop CS6 + OpenCL GPU acceleration is only on AMD graphic card at this time. Nvidia gimped GPGPU in the 600 series so probably will not be supported in CS6. There's a possibility Adobe will only support openCL and plan to drop CUDA, because they don’t want to develop something that only half the world can use.

There might be support in the future with Nvidia cards but I like to buy computers to use for today not the future. This is a huge deal for photographers.

source

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPDGIcNi4gI

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2251507

2. Most professional Photographers I know use an external monitor that's colour calibrated when editing photos. There's not many "Professional" that would edit all their photos only on a laptop screen specially when it's glossy. I know I wouldn't and I'm pretty picky with my photos.

To be honest I can't tell the different from a non Retina (late 2011 MBP with HR-AG)vs a Retina screen from normal viewing distance unless I'm looking at the screen around 8" inch away. And who the hell sits that close to a screen at all time and edit their photographs professionally? I think it's just more of a gimmick/luxury for photography right now than any real practical use.


3. Bootcamp looks blurry/fuzzy at 1440x900, 1650x1050 or 1920x1200, native resolution at 2800 x 1800 everything looks to small to be usable. And the other resolution looks like ass. The gpu can’t handle games at 2800 x 1800 and 1gb is not enough for that resolution.

4. No Matte options – having the laptop in the field (outside bright sunlight) sometimes it’s hard to control the light so glossy is no good. I’m fine with glossy in door when I can control the light such as at home or at a studio. But the point of having a laptop is to be portable.

5. No upgrade options – I would like to grow with my computer, don’t want to buy a whole new computer to upgrade the memory or disk space. The trade off to be thinner by losing the upgradeability is not worth it because it’s still a 15” laptop. It’s not like the old model was thick.

Those are the final nails in the coffin that I will not be getting one. This is clearly a first gen product that still needs some of the bugs to be worked out. Some people have reported UI lag and Some Retina MacBook Pro Users Experiencing Display 'Ghosting'.

I am very disappointed that some of the photographers gave the thing a great review(Now I know they are biased fanboy); I’m not going to mentions any names. There might be other industries that would benefit greatly from this computer but as a photographer I don’t think it’s something a professional photographer would need.

What terrible advice. No offense. The Macbook Pro is easily one of, if not the fastest realistically portable laptops out there. The only people who wouldn't benefit are people just surfing the web on the thing.

Also the whole "glossy" thing is moot. Print (on a calibrated printer and monitors) after color correcting from a glossy monitor, then from a matte monitor (which diffuses color). You'll see your colors are all more accurate on a color corrected glossy display. The REAL reason people don't use them is personal preference, nothing more.

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Gorgeous work! I really enjoyed it.

 

[Cypther]

Dude.. you are a freelance photographer, which means you are barely a "professional" photographer (if you want to even state that)... Which also means you don't generate enough revenue consistently to make photography a career. Also your whining post and the fact your profile links to your "professional" page tells everyone here you are an amateur.

I'm not worried what you have to say because well.. you are inexperience and your words don't carry much weight. There are plenty of articles from REAL professional photographers that praise the rMBP. The color gamut accuracy makes this a winner for portability especially for a photographer that works outside of a studio and need tethering or quick edit options. Yes I understand the limitation but you are going to get that regardless of rMBP or some other laptop.

I would counter your points but it is not worth it. I think people here have said enough.

Okay, what's your definition of a professional photographer? I would really like to know. I did quit my job a few months ago and started to do wedding a lot more, I do make a pretty decent living off just doing wedding photography. You know there's different types of photography. Sports, Photojournalism, Glamour.etc.. Does not mean a photographer needs to specialize in all of them.

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Also the whole "glossy" thing is moot. Print (on a calibrated printer and monitors) after color correcting from a glossy monitor, then from a matte monitor (which diffuses color). You'll see your colors are all more accurate on a color corrected glossy display. The REAL reason people don't use them is personal preference, nothing more.

When you're in an area that you can't control your lighting, glossy screen is terrible such as outside which is unusable.

 

[maratus]

Apple support OpenCL in all drivers for all their GPUs. It was available since 320M and higher end cards. Windows test has nothing to do with that. Im pretty sure that under MacOS you are getting OpenCL support from either AMD or nVidia.

For upgradeability, tell me more how you're going to install 32Gb in you current laptop. And if you want, I'm pretty sure you can get aftermarket 1Tb SSD upgrade from OWC in near future. SSD upgrades are hard to swallow even though it's possible to find relatively cheap 2.5" versions. But I'm not putting HDD inside of the laptop anymore.

Bottom line:

Please, do you research on Apple's OpenCL driver for 650M and realize that it has nothing to do with Cuda/OpenCL support in Windows.

 

[AlvinNguyen]

So you edit all your photos on the laptop? No external monitor? Clearly my work flow is much different from yours.

When I travel to a location that's not in NY, I am usually gone for 10-14 days - those days out there still means I need to get editing done. I'm not going to lug my 27" display around so the next best is in getting a laptop with the best possible screen. Previously, that was a 17" matte display Late 2011 MBP.

 

[OatmealRocks]

... Hey man not all of us freelancers are bad... I choose to freelance, not because I didn't or can't generate $$$
... Your paintbrush is a little wide.

Sorry dude. I didn't mean it that way well I did to some degree but a photographer needing a laptop is usually one of the requirements. Not all professionals have the luxury of a capture station and a permanent studio to work in. Yes obvious main editing is done on a large screen (IPS) but rarely have I seen a photographer picking a desktop as their ONLY computer. Only cases I have seen where they require a power house desktop they also make enough revenue to justify portable laptop(s). As for upgradeability, that is reserved on redundant storage rarely a requirement for a laptop. DATA storage is essential and besides RAM upgrade and HD/SSD what else do you really need as a photographer or a power user. Next inline is obvious color accuracy so OP's argument to the retina screen is comical. My understanding is PS is more about scratch disk and ram and less to do with video card. I know plenty of professionals that use iMac and are happy with the video card performance. RAM is extremely important and option for scratch disk for PS is helpful for performance but a luxury. My take on it anyway.

 

[minnus]

I've tried everything and I can guarantee you this is the best machine for retouching on the go - ever. And I've tried every mac possible.

I have nothing to add to this thread. Just found it interesting that someone touting, "best machine" followed with "tried every Mac possible." There are other machines (ie non-Apple laptops) that are designed for photographers / graphic designers - which offer insane color accuracy (better then the rMBP). The only advantage the rMBP has atm is the resolution.

 

[jcpb]

When you're in an area that you can't control your lighting, glossy screen is terrible such as outside which is unusable.

Reason why there is a market for portable LCD hoods.

 

[Cypther]

When I travel to a location that's not in NY, I am usually gone for 10-14 days - those days out there still means I need to get editing done. I'm not going to lug my 27" display around so the next best is in getting a laptop with the best possible screen. Previously, that was a 17" matte display Late 2011 MBP.

The thing about editing on the retina display is, not everyone is going to see what you see if it's for web. When I was at the Apple I notices most photos on website looks pixelated, so you might have to do the editing twice to see what everyone else see on a normal display. I thought long and hard about getting the retina macbook pro for my photography but I just can't do it yet. Maybe in the future.

 

[Fortimir]

Iwhich offer insane color accuracy (better then the rMBP). The only advantage the rMBP has atm is the resolution.

Calibrated, the color accuracy of the rMBP is awesome. The color is even really good out of the box... it was mostly just too contrasty. But it covers sRGB perfectly. That's all that matters to me. EVERYTHING I output is in sRGB. I don't need to see AdobeRGB or ProRGB. It's great that my apps work in those spaces, but I don't need to see it.

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Reason why there is a market for portable LCD hoods.

Think Tank Pixel Sunscreen 2.0. ;-)

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The thing about editing on the retina display is, not everyone is going to see what you see if it's for web.

That's really the case with everything. It's funny that we go to all the trouble to calibrate and tweak shadow and highlight details... but so many people who see your photos won't see those details because of their monitors being just out of the box.

So I (and the OP) cater to what matters. Our clients. I calibrate and edit for print. When I do that, everything else looks as good as it can.

 

[AlvinNguyen]

I have nothing to add to this thread. Just found it interesting that someone touting, "best machine" followed with "tried every Mac possible." There are other machines (ie non-Apple laptops) that are designed for photographers / graphic designers - which offer insane color accuracy (better then the rMBP). The only advantage the rMBP has atm is the resolution.

If you can name a professional fashion photographer using anything BUT a Mac I'll retract everything I say and issue an apology. If you even bring a PC into a creative meeting I guarantee you will not be taken seriously. Walk into the office of any major magazine or large studio houses like MILK and you'll see only mac edit stations. No PCs. And this is the best screen Mac right now. Period. The only advantage of the rMBP is the resolution? Try to think about color, size, weight, portability. Those reasons alone (even without the screen) would make a pro photographer/cinematographer switch in a heart beat. You will not understand until you're taking 5 pelican cases with camera, lighting, and editing equipments + clothing for a 10 days on location shoots in SE Asia. I did just that and my neck literally took 3 weeks to recover from just going in/out of the airport.

Example: I would check in everything minus my camera/lens and main lights due to risk of losing it - that means 2 pelican cases to carry on PLUS a backpack with my laptop, ipad (portfolio), iphone, chargers, multiple hard drives. You can see why 2 lbs off my back (6.6 lbs for the 17" MBP) was a life safer.

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The thing about editing on the retina display is, not everyone is going to see what you see if it's for web. When I was at the Apple I notices most photos on website looks pixelated, so you might have to do the editing twice to see what everyone else see on a normal display. I thought long and hard about getting the retina macbook pro for my photography but I just can't do it yet. Maybe in the future.

The only reason the photos looks pixelated is because the web site isn't retina-ready. This will change very soon. My new site is being coded with that in mind as we speak.

I think you are highly misinformed - what do you mean edit twice to see what people see? Are you going to edit for every single type of LCD out there? Edit it under industry standard or simply what your client as for. When I edit it's for print. Even if it's going to be viewed on a screen it's going to look different on random user's screens but on my clients in the fashion industry it'll also be an iOS or a Mac - in which case it's already perfect.

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Gorgeous work! I really enjoyed it.

Thank you

 

[OatmealRocks]

Okay, what's your definition of a professional photographer? I would really like to know. I did quit my job a few months ago and started to do wedding a lot more, I do make a pretty decent living off just doing wedding photography. You know there's different types of photography. Sports, Photojournalism, Glamour.etc.. Does not mean a photographer needs to specialize in all of them.

Yayy another wedding photographer. I'm not knocking wedding photography because well I know some VERY successful wedding photographers, one friend of mine shoots nation wide and to give you an idea uses PROFOTO (what wedding photographer uses profoto !?) and makes above consistently in the range of $200-300k/yr (in this economy change in business landscape) with over 10 years of experience. She also have a semi cult following and in fact they are doing a pilot on a reality series based on her. Not sure if it will get picked up.

Anyway.. wedding photography is a huge grey area because of the easy barrier of entry, i have seen amazing to not so much and yes you can make a living off it but quality work builds on experience, reputation and tactfulness. Unfortunately every soccer mom who buys a starter kit from best buy now thinks they can shoot weddings. It is a fact and the main reason it drives down the price and profession as a whole. You have yet to prove anything here. A professional does not need to know it all and I never said that. What ever genre you pick yayyy.. but in short your advice is horrible. Look at the "PUBLISHED" work of the other member check out the creatives, what do you have other than weddings and some TFP pics? Great wedding photographers also have personal creatives that are amazing and usually have tear sheets to back it up.

I don't want to sound harsh but just chill out on your ridiculous advice, your work will grow and you will get better as you learn from experience but your advice at present (TODAY) bleeds immaturity and inexperience. Remember pressing a button is really like 9% of what one does as photographer, balancing, managing creative teams, assistants, clients, editing, logistics, operations to delivery/submissions comes into play. There is no accreditation in wedding photography anyone can be one but the ones that are successful wedding or fashion are whatever can do all I stated and more.

 

[Lord Appleseed]

Wasn't there a thread nerly exactly like this just a week ago?

Why do some people think their opinions and decisions are always also right for the rest of thier branch?

 

[minnus]

If you can name a professional fashion photographer using anything BUT a Mac I'll retract everything I say and issue an apology. If you even bring a PC into a creative meeting I guarantee you will not be taken seriously. Walk into the office of any major magazine or large studio houses like MILK and you'll see only mac edit stations. No PCs. And this is the best screen Mac right now. Period. The only advantage of the rMBP is the resolution? Try to think about color, size, weight, portability. Those reasons alone (even without the screen) would make a pro photographer/cinematographer switch in a heart beat. You will not understand until you're taking 5 pelican cases with camera, lighting, and editing equipments + clothing for a 10 days on location shoots in SE Asia. I did just that and my neck literally took 3 weeks to recover from just going in/out of the airport.

Example: I would check in everything minus my camera/lens and main lights due to risk of losing it - that means 2 pelican cases to carry on PLUS a backpack with my laptop, ipad (portfolio), iphone, chargers, multiple hard drives. You can see why 2 lbs off my back (6.6 lbs for the 17" MBP) was a life safer.

I am not a photographer. From a purely technical standpoint, there are other laptops with great if not better screens. Just pointing that out.

Your whole brand recognition statement sounds very irrelevant, and fairly illogical (in the sense that you would get an Apple laptop over another, even if anyone was superior in technical aspects - which I would consider true pre-retina) to me. But - I've attended my share of...events where appearance and branding is 'everything', so I can definitely understand the mentality even if I don't agree with it.

I don't know why you went on about how much you have to carry and how often you travel. While we can tout random things on the interwebs, I had similar experience, except replace camera equipment with computer equipment. Yes, a few pounds makes all the difference, I won't deny that. To me though, if you have the same packing mentality - if there is space, an extra ____ won't hurt just in case (even if the chance of using it is very low).

Anyways, not dissing the rMBP (I have one). Just pointing out the fallacy of your previously quoted statement.

 

[OatmealRocks]

I think you are highly misinformed - what do you mean edit twice to see what people see? Are you going to edit for every single type of LCD out there? Edit it under industry standard or simply what your client as for. When I edit it's for print. Even if it's going to be viewed on a screen it's going to look different on random user's screens but on my clients in the fashion industry it'll also be an iOS or a Mac - in which case it's already perfect.

Most likely his workflow is well.. inefficient. It wouldn't cross my mind if he is using different color space NOT Adobe or sRGB and just by eye in a "NORMAL" screen. I also wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't completely understand color gamut on random pre retina (LCD screens) and the obvious impact to pictures. Also what the heck is edit twice and "NORMAL" screen? SMH!

 

[AlvinNguyen]

I am not a photographer. From a purely technical standpoint, there are other laptops with great if not better screens. Just pointing that out.

Your whole brand recognition statement sounds very irrelevant, and fairly illogical (in the sense that you would get an Apple laptop over another, even if anyone was superior in technical aspects - which I would consider true pre-retina) to me. But - I've attended my share of...events where appearance and branding is 'everything', so I can definitely understand the mentality even if I don't agree with it.

I don't know why you went on about how much you have to carry and how often you travel. While we can tout random things on the interwebs, I had similar experience, except replace camera equipment with computer equipment. Yes, a few pounds makes all the difference, I won't deny that. To me though, if you have the same packing mentality - if there is space, an extra ____ won't hurt just in case (even if the chance of using it is very low).

Anyways, not dissing the rMBP (I have one). Just pointing out the fallacy of your previously quoted statement.

You pointed out that the only good thing was the resolution and that is simple not true - hence my reply. The second part is that you're pointing out "other PC laptops" - that does not apply to my industry and my work. Hence, my defense of my statement.

 

[Cypther]

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The only reason the photos looks pixelated is because the web site isn't retina-ready. This will change very soon. My new site is being coded with that in mind as we speak.

I think you are highly misinformed - what do you mean edit twice to see what people see? Are you going to edit for every single type of LCD out there? Edit it under industry standard or simply what your client as for. When I edit it's for print. Even if it's going to be viewed on a screen it's going to look different on random user's screens but on my clients in the fashion industry it'll also be an iOS or a Mac - in which case it's already perfect.

Soon? That really depends on how many retina Macbook pro are sold, plus when PC get's HiDPI screens. Probably not going to be for another 3 years, thunderblot haven't really taken off yet.

I think most photographers that cared about colour acuity will calibrated for print, it's not a secret. But most will be using colour-critical monitor such as the NCE not a laptop screen. But I guess you have to use what you have to use for traveling.

 

[OatmealRocks]

I am not a photographer. From a purely technical standpoint, there are other laptops with great if not better screens. Just pointing that out.

Your whole brand recognition statement sounds very irrelevant, and fairly illogical (in the sense that you would get an Apple laptop over another, even if anyone was superior in technical aspects - which I would consider true pre-retina) to me. But - I've attended my share of...events where appearance and branding is 'everything', so I can definitely understand the mentality even if I don't agree with it.

Doesn't need to be relevant or logical. It is the fashion industry. From across the globe to here it is the same and there are certain tools Professional will only work with. It is not all appearance and branding but it is to some degree. AlvinNguyen is right if you use PC you will not be taken seriously as a PROFESSIONAL. It is the fact and if you are trying to make a career in the fashion industry you might as well quit before you waste your money on gear.

 

[AlvinNguyen]

Yayy another wedding photographer. I'm not knocking wedding photography because well I know some VERY successful wedding photographers, one friend of mine shoots nation wide and to give you an idea uses PROFOTO (what wedding photographer uses profoto !?) and makes above consistently in the range of $200-300k/yr (in this economy change in business landscape) with over 10 years of experience. She also have a semi cult following and in fact they are doing a pilot on a reality series based on her. Not sure if it will get picked up.

Anyway.. wedding photography is a huge grey area because of the easy barrier of entry, i have seen amazing to not so much and yes you can make a living off it but quality work builds on experience, reputation and tactfulness. Unfortunately every soccer mom who buys a starter kit from best buy now thinks they can shoot weddings. It is a fact and the main reason it drives down the price and profession as a whole. You have yet to prove anything here. A professional does not need to know it all and I never said that. What ever genre you pick yayyy.. but in short your advice is horrible. Look at the "PUBLISHED" work of the other member check out the creatives, what do you have other than weddings and some TFP pics? Great wedding photographers also have personal creatives that are amazing and usually have tear sheets to back it up.

I don't want to sound harsh but just chill out on your ridiculous advice, your work will grow and you will get better as you learn from experience but your advice at present (TODAY) bleeds immaturity and inexperience. Remember pressing a button is really like 9% of what one does as photographer, balancing, managing creative teams, assistants, clients, editing, logistics, operations to delivery/submissions comes into play. There is no accreditation in wedding photography anyone can be one but the ones that are successful wedding or fashion are whatever can do all I stated and more.

I'm favoriting this as the best reply ever given on MR. This is true and to the point and honest. I am so sick and tired of everyone and their mom calling themselves "photographers" shooting on automatic modes or claiming professional status after getting laid off from their day job and taking a photography course from the local college.

I'm not bashing emerging photographers - I think that's great and it's a beautiful thing to have amazing images. But until then, the best thing to do is shoot more, learn more, talk less. Otherwise you'll just sound like someone trying to compensate for your skill (or lack thereof)

 

[Evil Spoonman]

1. Adobe Photoshop CS6 + OpenCL GPU acceleration is only on AMD graphic card at this time. Nvidia gimped GPGPU in the 600 series so probably will not be supported in CS6. There's a possibility Adobe will only support openCL and plan to drop CUDA, because they don’t want to develop something that only half the world can use.

There might be support in the future with Nvidia cards but I like to buy computers to use for today not the future. This is a huge deal for photographers.

source

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPDGIcNi4gI

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2251507

Your sources are one random person who mentions this without a source in a forum, and an AMD PR video where no Nvidia cards are compared. This is not valid data.

How do you know that Nvidia cards are not supported by CS6? OpenCL is an open platform/architecture-agnostic framework. Nvidia, AMD (CPU and GPU), and Intel (CPU and GPU) all support OpenCL at present. GCN was a strong GPU Compute showing for AMD. Nvidia switched to a compute-centric architecture with Fermi awhile back now. Tests will be required before we will have a clue how performance is between Kepler and Turks, or Kepler and Cape Verde for that matter.

2. Most professional Photographers I know use an external monitor that's colour calibrated when editing photos. There's not many "Professional" that would edit all their photos only on a laptop screen specially when it's glossy. I know I wouldn't and I'm pretty picky with my photos.

To be honest I can't tell the different from a non Retina (late 2011 MBP with HR-AG)vs a Retina screen from normal viewing distance unless I'm looking at the screen around 8" inch away. And who the hell sits that close to a screen at all time and edit their photographs professionally? I think it's just more of a gimmick/luxury for photography right now than any real practical use.

You can calibrate notebook screens just fine. For mobile work, they are excellent. Some of the better displays on the market. Glossy vs matte is an interesting ongoing argument, some people love it (including some photographers) some hate it (including myself). I was satisfied with the reduction in gloss on the rMBP, it is now usable without becoming a mirror in many conditions.

You claim to be picky about your photos, yet you cannot tell the difference between 2880x1800 and 1680x1050 on a 15" display? I find that a pretty remarkable statement. I ran a demo rMBP through a battery of nice DSLR photos during my testing to get a feel for how it handled colour, viewing angle, contrast, and what difference the resolution made. It's big, you can see a lot of detail in photos, and it's not a subtle effect either. The increase in detail is impressive and deep, it will be better when calibrated as well. Not to mention the insane utility granted by applications that take advantage of resolution independence.

3. Bootcamp looks blurry/fuzzy at 1440x900, 1650x1050 or 1920x1200, native resolution at 2800 x 1800 everything looks to small to be usable. And the other resolution looks like ass. The gpu can’t handle games at 2800 x 1800 and 1gb is not enough for that resolution.

Nobody will argue these points. Windows scaling is not elegant or pretty, and native resolution is a lot of pixels to push for a game. That said, this thread was specifically about photography, and neither of these topics are applicable.

4. No Matte options – having the laptop in the field (outside bright sunlight) sometimes it’s hard to control the light so glossy is no good. I’m fine with glossy in door when I can control the light such as at home or at a studio. But the point of having a laptop is to be portable.

Sure, and like I've said earlier... this is a personal preference issue. I know a lot of visual compute folks (video editing, photography, 3D) who love glossy, and a lot (including myself) who love matte. If you don't like it, don't buy it. I found it to be acceptable and I am firmly in the matte camp.

5. No upgrade options – I would like to grow with my computer, don’t want to buy a whole new computer to upgrade the memory or disk space. The trade off to be thinner by losing the upgradeability is not worth it because it’s still a 15” laptop. It’s not like the old model was thick.

Let me just quote you here: "... I like to buy computers to use for today not the future ...". Today this is the best notebook you can buy. Hardware upgrades shouldn't concern you if that is your attitude.

Those are the final nails in the coffin that I will not be getting one. This is clearly a first gen product that still needs some of the bugs to be worked out. Some people have reported UI lag and Some Retina MacBook Pro Users Experiencing Display 'Ghosting'.

Great, you don't get one. I doubt anybody has an issue with that. We wish you happiness waiting for the eventual revB which will no doubt be more stable and less buggy than this rev.

I am very disappointed that some of the photographers gave the thing a great review(Now I know they are biased fanboy); I’m not going to mentions any names. There might be other industries that would benefit greatly from this computer but as a photographer I don’t think it’s something a professional photographer would need.

This thing is awesome to use, awesome to view content on, and great to carry around. Also incidentally you are inconsistent and uninformed with your arguments. Accusations of "fanboy" removes any credibility.

 

[OatmealRocks]

Soon? That really depends on how many retina Macbook pro are sold, plus when PC get's HiDPI screens. Probably not going to be for another 3 years, thunderblot haven't really taken off yet.

I think most photographers that cared about colour acuity will calibrated for print, it's not a secret. But most will be using colour-critical monitor such as the NCE not a laptop screen. But I guess you have to use what you have to use for traveling.

You think? DUHHHH Of course color calibration would be important, not all professionals LIKE YOU uses Walmart to print their photos. GEez stop talking.

 

[Cypther]

So I all I out of this thread is the rMBP is lighter, which is great for traveling photographers. I understand that and I'm not arguing that. But the software for the resolution is not even close prefect. Why should a photographer rush out and get one now when Adobe CS6/lightroom 4 is not retina ready? Like I said I will get one in the future when it's more mature.

 

[Kurwenal]

Like I said I will get one in the future when it's more mature.

That's great for you. Congrats on your decision.

Believing that every other photographer on this planet has your same wants and needs, though, is, well, wrong.

 

[Cypther]

You think? Of course color calibration would be important, not all professionals uses Walmart to print their photos. GEez stop talking.

No ****!

 

[OatmealRocks]

So I all I out of this thread is the rMBP is lighter, which is great for traveling photographers. I understand that and I'm not arguing that. But the software for the resolution is not even close prefect. Why should a photographer rush out and get one now when Adobe CS6/lightroom 4 is not retina ready? Like I said I will get one in the future when it's more mature.

Or you can get one when you are more mature (in the industry). Goodnight.

 

[Fortimir]

So I all I out of this thread is the rMBP is lighter, which is great for traveling photographers.

If that's all you got out of it, you're not listening to anything but the sound coming out of your own mouth. Portability is a lynchpin of why this is great to serious professionals... but it's the fact that it's portable coupled with an incredible display, and ample power that makes this a serious machine for serious photographers.