iFixit Details Which Parts Can Be Swapped Between the iPhone 8 and iPhone SE

[PickUrPoison]

1) The XDR display is no better than what is currently available so it is irrelevant the need to find a better monitor.

You cannot compare the XDR to more expensive and better performing monitors when the XDR itself performs no better than what Apple offer in the 5K iMac or the LG display currently on sale.

2) It is your opinion they are wrong, doesn't mean you're right. Falling iPhone sales says differently.

3) Missing the point completely in your answer. If Apple only sold the iPhone 11 Pro and that was it, what would they price it at? All models have the latest features. The only difference between them are storage tiers and screen size.

Bearing in mind it is the lowest selling iPhone in the entire lineup. Guarantee they would not be selling it at current prices.

4) I will disagree. Market research is mostly useless, thats how Apple operated when they were most successful.

If they asked people if they wanted a phone without buttons probably 99% of them would have said no, which is why they were so ahead of the game for the next 2-3 years.

5) Show me data for the UK specifically. That figure is global. Show me data for the UK alone and how they calculate costs for an iPhone in the UK.

1) OK, so Apple sells the best high quality, high resolution, high density 31.5” display for pro video editors (and others) that’s available. Seems like since there’s no competition, they can name their price, whether you like it or not.

You might not need it or be able to afford it, but that’s not relevant, is it? If you want it, you’re going to pay Apple’s price. Full stop. All the whingeing in the world won’t change that.

2) As long as Apple is selling the number of iPhones they want to sell, for their $400, $700 and $1,000 models, iPhone isn’t overpriced—by definition. If you want the best, save up and buy the best. It’s more productive than just whingeing about price.

3) I don’t think Apple should only sell one mid-priced model. If they did, you’d get only the iPhone 11—exactly how it is right now. You definitely would not get the $1,000 Pro for $700. That makes no more sense than saying that if they only had a $400 phone you’d get all the Pro features for $400. Hardly.

No, for $400 you’d get the SE, not the 11 or 11 Pro. And for $700, you get the 11, not the Pro. The features on the Pro are $1,000. Sorry.

If you want the best/most expensive features, buy the $1,000 Pro. If you don’t care about OLED, triple cameras or other exclusives of the Pro, buy the iPhone 11 or SE. They’re much cheaper, at $700 or $400, respectively.

Similarly, if Apple only sold one model iPad, you would have the $500 Air, but no $300 basic model and no $700 iPad Pro. You may want that, but Apple doesn’t. And no, you wouldn’t get all the Pro features at $500—you’d get the Air features.

Apple wants customers to be able to buy an iPhone and an iPad for $700. Or $1,200, if they want more than the basics. Or $2,000 if they want—and can afford—Apple’s best. You just saying the best should cost $1,200, not $2,000, is just you whingeing about price.

4) You thinking you know more than Apple about what products would be profitable to make is ridiculous imo, and I suspect there’s no basis for your high opinion of your guesses about such matters. But feel free. At least it’s not just you whingeing about prices.

5) Prices seem to be set based on current FX rate, plus a premium of around 5-10% to hedge against future weakening of the currency. Sometimes it works against you, sometimes for you. Right now, you’re paying hundreds of dollars less than we do here in the States for some items.

But nobody complains when FX works in their favor, do they lol. Some would say, with a straight face, “I’m saving $300 on this Mac, but paying an extra $30 for my iPhone. I’m mad! What a ripoff! Apple sucks!”

Apple’s pretty good at forecasting currency fluctuations, and in the aggregate, things tend to balance out. But as I mentioned, last quarter the losses from FX exceeded gains from FX by $600 million. Oh well, you win some, you lose some 🤷‍♂️

Of course, Apple could just let the prices float on a day to day basis, that would keep certainly keep them from incurring FX losses caused by large underpricing errors.

 

[UK-MacAddict]

1) OK, so Apple sells the best high quality, high resolution, high density 31.5” display for pro video editors (and others) that’s available. Seems like since there’s no competition, they can name their price, whether you like it or not.

You might not need it or be able to afford it, but that’s not relevant, is it? If you want it, you’re going to pay Apple’s price. Full stop. All the whingeing in the world won’t change that.

2) As long as Apple is selling the number of iPhones they want to sell, for their $400, $700 and $1,000 models, iPhone isn’t overpriced—by definition. If you want the best, save up and buy the best. It’s more productive than just whingeing about price.

3) I don’t think Apple should only sell one mid-priced model. If they did, you’d get only the iPhone 11—exactly how it is right now. You definitely would not get the $1,000 Pro for $700. That makes no more sense than saying that if they only had a $400 phone you’d get all the Pro features for $400. Hardly.

No, for $400 you’d get the SE, not the 11 or 11 Pro. And for $700, you get the 11, not the Pro. The features on the Pro are $1,000. Sorry.

If you want the best/most expensive features, buy the $1,000 Pro. If you don’t care about OLED, triple cameras or other exclusives of the Pro, buy the iPhone 11 or SE. They’re much cheaper, at $700 or $400, respectively.

Similarly, if Apple only sold one model iPad, you would have the $500 Air, but no $300 basic model and no $700 iPad Pro. You may want that, but Apple doesn’t. And no, you wouldn’t get all the Pro features at $500—you’d get the Air features.

Apple wants customers to be able to buy an iPhone and an iPad for $700. Or $1,200, if they want more than the basics. Or $2,000 if they want—and can afford—Apple’s best. You just saying the best should cost $1,200, not $2,000, is just you whingeing about price.

4) You thinking you know more than Apple about what products would be profitable to make is ridiculous imo, and I suspect there’s no basis for your high opinion of your guesses about such matters. But feel free. At least it’s not just you whingeing about prices.

5) Prices seem to be set based on current FX rate, plus a premium of around 5-10% to hedge against future weakening of the currency. Sometimes it works against you, sometimes for you. Right now, you’re paying hundreds of dollars less than we do here in the States for some items.

But nobody complains when FX works in their favor, do they lol. Some would say, with a straight face, “I’m saving $300 on this Mac, but paying an extra $30 for my iPhone. I’m mad! What a ripoff! Apple sucks!”

Apple’s pretty good at forecasting currency fluctuations, and in the aggregate, things tend to balance out. But as I mentioned, last quarter the losses from FX exceeded gains from FX by $600 million. Oh well, you win some, you lose some 🤷‍♂️

Of course, Apple could just let the prices float on a day to day basis, that would keep certainly keep them from incurring FX losses caused by large underpricing errors.

Since all of what you say is just your own opinion and not fact then it is just as irrelevant as my point of view and you are just whinging about people who dare to question Apples pricing.

1) Yes they can price it at whatever they want, currently they want to price it at a ridiculous price to schmucks who think its worth it.

If you tried to sell it on the next day after purchase you'd probably get less than a third of its value back. The depreciation would be massive.

2) In terms of iPhone all those features worth £1000+ you speak of were already available on other devices for years at sub £1000 pricing.

Everything you just wrote is conjecture. You don't know what tech would have been in iPhones and iPads if Apple stuck to the one model strategy. So everything you wrote about what goes in an iPhone or iPad and at what price points is irrelevant and pure guesswork from you.

3) You keep quoting figures of this and that but all that shows is you learnt to read a financial document and regurgitate what Apple feeds the press. I stopped reading as soon as I saw FX which you keep repeating, you are starting to sound like a broken record and you say I'm repetitive. Like I said before all big companies lie and fluff figures etc.

What Apple products are currently priced hundreds of pounds less here than the US?

Also you say Apple lost $600m which is around £480m in FX fluctuations, well they’ve been dodging tax in Ireland to the tune of £11bn for 10 years and also settling multiple lawsuits with Qualcomm and other companies for hundreds of millions. So I wouldn’t feel to sorry for them since they obviously have a lot of cash in reserve to pay those fines. I think it stood at something like $150bn in a cash stockpile last time I looked.

If they can and are willing risk those huge fines which dwarf a measly £480m (to Apple £480m is pocket change) they can reduce their profit margins by at least 10% and lower prices and still have billions in cash reserves.

In addition you speak of my price whinging about Apple products, Apple themselves whinge about pricing of tech and licences of other companies. Take the Qualcomm case for instance. By your logic then Qualcomm can charge whatever they like for their tech because there are no alternatives to their 5G modems at the moment.

So why didn’t Apple shut up and stop whinging about the price and just pay what its worth? Instead they try to sue companies when they cant get their own way.

Apple can make those big profit margins because they bully suppliers into lowering prices with the threat they will take their business elsewhere and with their huge size those small companies feel obliged to comply. There are many stories of companies collapsing after Apple pulled their business. I’m sure those OLED suppliers would love to charge more for their displays than they currently are but if they did Apple would start complaining of price just like customers complain about their pricing.

I’m a big user of Apple products but don’t be misguided into thinking they’re a saint of a company.