iFixit Examines Apple Vision Pro's Displays, Battery, and Repairability

[Mr_Ed]

You reply will be popular, but did you mean to overlook the point that I was clear to make was that I wasn't talking about people talking about or for themselves but are talking as if they have the final judgement to fit everyone? Words do matter. And actually I do try to make sure when I give my opinion that it's simply from my perspective for me. For example, I get some people feel pain wearing one relatively quickly, but when I comment on my experience, that I can wear one 5 hours straight with zero issue, I take pains (pun intended) to acknowledge I may be an anomaly. My wife calls me hard headed all the time

TBH, I read you comment as saying that the lack of “disclaimers” means the writer is “deciding for everyone.” My point is “disclaimers” should not be necessary to take it as a personal opinion. After all, we are on an Internet forum, and opinions are like sphincters: everyone has at least two

 

[dwaite]

more proof the vision pro ls not worth $3500. My gosh the battery pack is just some stacked iPhone batteries.

I bet they reuse the same screws they use to build the iPhone too! The travesty!

 

[dwaite]

What an idiotic thing to say.

Anyone can have an opinion about anything, ANYTHING.

Opinions are interpretations of information… what they cannot make without experience is a conclusive judgement (as they are founded in fact and experience)

Right:

noun

1. a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

One can have an opinion which is basically just an uninformed emotional reaction. It just won't actually contribute anything to conversation.

 

[G5isAlive]

TBH, I read you comment as saying that the lack of “disclaimers” means the writer is “deciding for everyone.” My point is “disclaimers” should not be necessary to take it as a personal opinion. After all, we are on an Internet forum, and opinions are like sphincters: everyone has at least two

I get your point and I think we are in what I like to call 'violent agreement' for the most part. Sure in a spoken word where context is easier to discern it's not necessary to clarify, but the written word is harder. I try to assume good intentions but when folks say word to the effect 'apple failed, this is too expensive and only fanboys would buy one'... well... I think their meaning is clear and bordering on offensive. I think the Internet would be a better place if folks made more effort to be clear and not assume things. You know what they say about "assume". Maybe thats me being pedantic, or maybe thats trying to reduce confusion. I dont think we should necessarily accept as normal those that talk out of one sphincter more than the other Anyway thanks for the back and forth discussion and letting me state my opinion. Peace Out.

 

[Mr_Ed]

One can have an opinion which is basically just an uninformed emotional reaction. It just won't actually contribute anything to conversation.

Reaction != Opinion

Someone may react to a comment they read by posting a rebuttal (or concurrence), which may include opinion-based information, but they are not the same thing.

Uninformed: While I agree some posts here may well be “uninformed”, most are stating opinions based on the information on hand as provided by this site. So, not “uninformed.” If you mean some may not be based on objective facts, I would agree, but then again, we are discussing information on a rumors site that sometimes publishes facts.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

3 pages in and I'm not seeing one comment about these little nuggets...

iFixit managed to design its own battery pack to circumvent the restrictions of Apple's design, providing double the battery life of the included pack.

...which I'm interpreting to mean third party Vpro batteries incoming with better battery life than the stock one. I don't know how to read "double the battery life of the included pack" and not think 4-5 hours. If that's true, that seems like a very big deal.

BUT, I didn't get through the video yet. Did they have to make a much larger battery? Or same approx size and just an altered design or choices focused on maximizing battery life?

iFixit revealed that the Vision Pro is relatively free from parts pairing, a common practice in Apple products that restricts repairability. This means components can be swapped between headsets without triggering "unrecognized part" warnings, a key benefit for repair enthusiasts and professionals.

Does that mean, third party storage upgrades are likely? Or are these parts only things "on the outside."

 

[Surf Monkey]

Right:


One can have an opinion which is basically just an uninformed emotional reaction. It just won't actually contribute anything to conversation.

That isn’t happening here.

 

[klasma]

"...contains a range of hardware features such as temperature sensors and an accelerometer."

The simple cost of any single component is not necessarily relevant when it comes to an entire assembly.

Yeah, I still don’t see how that would come anywhere close to $200. You can get an Android phone for well under $100 which surely has more hardware features than the VP battery.

 

[G5isAlive]

3 pages in and I'm not seeing one comment about these little nuggets...



...which I'm interpreting to mean third party Vpro batteries incoming with better battery life than the stock one. I don't know how to read "double the battery life of the included pack" and not think 4-5 hours. If that's true, that seems like a very big deal.

BUT, I didn't get through the video yet. Did they have to make a much larger battery? Or same approx size and just an altered design or choices focused on maximizing battery life?



Does that mean, third party storage upgrades are likely? Or are these parts only things "on the outside."

then you missed my comment on Page two. I wont take it personally lol.

"Anyway, back to the video. I give them credit for proudly showing what has to be the world's ugliest fanny pack battery as a prototype for doubling the APV battery lifetime. But it also is a good example of why quality costs. I did enjoy learning there's much more in the battery pack than a battery."

and yep you should watch the video. It's maybe 6 or 8 times the size of Apple's and doesnt look like anything I would hook up to my APV. Electronics is sensitive to voltage regulation etc, and I have never understood why someone would buy an expensive device and then trust cheap third party batteries only interested in a buck to not fry their equipment. Learned that lesson in the DSLR world, OEM equipment is often more expensive but often more reliable.

and .. this whole battery thing is overblown in my opinion. For one thing it really is most useful when sitting down, and often there is a nearby plug for that (yes I know not all planes etc). For another, the battery life really is longer than 2 hours, and finally some people seem to suggest no one could wear it that long (not clear if they had tried it on). I am the anomaly, I have to force myself to put it down after 5 hours.

EDIT: oh and not to mention you can hook up a third party battery to the USB C port of Apple's battery no problem (I have verified this personally). So presumably in that instance the apple battery acts as a filter. like I said, $200 is cheap insurance for a $3500 device.

 

[JosephAW]

Not sure why Apple didn’t just move all the computing process to an external box and just leave the cameras speakers and screens in the headset, that would make it lighter and cooler.
Even better Apple should allow your iPhone 15 Pro to just plug into the headset and do all the computational work instead of having its own computer.
That’s where it’s going anyway, all the logic and computational power would still be in a little brick, putting it in the headset doesn’t necessarily make sense.

 

[G5isAlive]

Not sure why Apple didn’t just move all the computing process to an external box and just leave the cameras speakers and screens in the headset, that would make it lighter and cooler.
Even better Apple should allow your iPhone 15 Pro to just plug into the headset and do all the computational work instead of having its own computer.
That’s where it’s going anyway, all the logic and computational power would still be in a little brick, putting it in the headset doesn’t necessarily make sense.

In the tear down I dont see any evidence of a heavy heat sink, except for the actual frame lol. and the circuit boards really dont weigh much so you would not save as much as you might think. Others claim that the rate of data transmission over a cable would not be fast enough, but I find that hard to believe. In any event, I think this is a gen 1 product, apple's vision is its all self contained at some point, maybe not this point.

 

[FlimFlamDude]

Anyone saying this product isn't worth the money has either not tried the headset, or doesn't understand how much research and development works. Actually triggering to see.

People are jealous

 

[turbineseaplane]

People are jealous

Lol

No… they are not

 

[turbineseaplane]

Anyone saying this product isn't worth the money has either not tried the headset, or doesn't understand how much research and development works. Actually triggering to see.

What if they have tried it but simply don’t find it to be desirable or perhaps just not a good value?

 

[Surf Monkey]

People are jealous

Right. People are jealous. And they’re too poor. And they don’t understand what Vision is.

Weak, pointless comments to make. None of them are true.

 

[neuropsychguy]

Such sensors cost a few dollars at most.

And a team of people engineered them to be in the pack and perform specific functions. The cost of a product is not just the cost of the parts.

 

[sunny5]

more proof the vision pro ls not worth $3500. My gosh the battery pack is just some stacked iPhone batteries.

3rd party usually use proper big battery cells with better specs and performance less than $100.

 

[0ceans]

I won't get this until the apps that I want are released. But this device looks absolutely amazing and futuristic.

I haven't seen a cooler gadget in the market than this one. We don't currently have the tech to make a cheap VR set that doesn't suck. Making a halfway decent one like VP, costs a ton. It being beyond one's purchasing power or willingness to pay is totally unsurprising. But disregarding price - how can anybody look at this thing and not be amazed?

Other than not being able to afford it, which is understandable for a lot of people I guess, I'm just kind of surprised how negative attitudes towards it are.

 

[citysnaps]

I won't get this until the apps that I want are released. But this device looks absolutely amazing and futuristic.

I haven't seen a cooler gadget in the market than this one. We don't currently have the tech to make a cheap VR set that doesn't suck. Making a halfway decent one like VP, costs a ton. It being beyond one's purchasing power or willingness to pay is totally unsurprising. But disregarding price - how can anybody look at this thing and not be amazed?

Other than not being able to afford it, which is understandable for a lot of people I guess, I'm just kind of surprised how negative attitudes towards it are.

"Other than not being able to afford it, which is understandable for a lot of people I guess, I'm just kind of surprised how negative attitudes towards it are."

The good news is there are more and more people here who have and are using AVP. I'd recommend closely listening to those people. Sadly, there's negativity all over the internet.

 

[citysnaps]

Here's a journalist's story about his time and reactions using an AVP during an Apple Store demo. It's a good read.

The Apple Vision Pro will make a trillion dollars

SFGATE columnist Drew Magary put on an Apple Vision Pro headset and saw the future.

www.sfgate.com

 

[kkee]

Seems like no one talk about the 20% battery reserved in Vision Pro. By limiting the charge to 80%, you can protect your battery from overheating and overcharging and reduce the number of charged cycles that the battery goes through.

 

[picpicmac]

Incredibly, someone can look at the guts of this and say yeah, it's crap.

Incredibly, someone can be a hack on the internet and think they can deliver actual advanced electronics globally.

 

[doelcm82]

Translation: Each panel has a resolution of 3660x3200, which is less wide than the 3840x2160 standard 4K resolution, but also significantly taller, hence resulting in a 41% higher pixel count. Nevertheless, it means that the AVP can’t render a 4K screen at full resolution to either eye, even ignoring interpolation artifacts.

And yet, MAN does that "4K" or better screen look good floating in my room or on the wall of a virtual theater, or on my ceiling as I lie in bed. I can get up and walk to the screen, so that some of it is outside my field of view. It's still so sharp! And it's 3D (because the program I picked happened to be in 3D).

There are aspects of the 4K experience in Apple Vision Pro that are far superior to the new 75" 4K TV that I have hanging above my fireplace. I'm typically watching that TV from 20+ feet away in the kitchen. I'm not getting 4K hitting my retinas at that distance.

 

[svish]

Always good to see these teardown videos. Good to see the internal parts of Vision Pro

 

[MacFarmer]

without watching I can already tell what they gonna say. Buy our tools, apple is bad, this is nonreairable.