iFixit Indicates Third-Party 2018 MacBook Pro, iMac Pro Repairs Still Possible For Now

[Glockworkorange]

Right. So, either we both are allowed to complain/chastise/comment, or we're both not. Although, from a moral standpoint, one offends those with a legitimate predicament using the comments section as a legitimate outlet to vent those frustrations whereas the other doesn't accomplish anything other than serve as a means for you to impose your eye-rolling on the crowd and/or troll. Just sayin'.

Eye rolling is exactly right. I don’t think it’s the same as trolling.

The continuous whining and crying gets tiring. No matter how much people bang their spoons on their high chairs, a more repairable Apple is not coming back.

 

[Ploki]

I'm not making it seem anything...Just operating from the many news stories that claim Apple will make the switch "as early as" 2020. They will probably have some kind of emulation built in for a while. But, I don't think they are concerned with making sure all the 3rd party apps are adapted...I think they will encourage the bigger developers to do so and not sweat the small stuff.

It's a big blow for professionals - enough to jump ship, if majors of the likes of Adobe and Avid aren't ready when it launches. + It means they need to either maintain two architectures, or switch desktops to ARM as well... Which is just can't see happening since x86 still outperforms it.

I think more likely scenario is switch to AMD and some kind of exclusivity and tighter collab on chip design (something intel isnt willing to do)

 

[zedsdeadbaby]

It's a big blow for professionals - enough to jump ship, if majors of the likes of Adobe and Avid aren't ready when it launches. + It means they need to either maintain two architectures, or switch desktops to ARM as well... Which is just can't see happening since x86 still outperforms it.

I think more likely scenario is switch to AMD and some kind of exclusivity and tighter collab on chip design (something intel isnt willing to do)

I just don't see Apple phasing out Intel on higher end machines. Logic is immensely popular, it's one of the 3 most common DAWs used for scoring TV and film, and Apple is very well aware of that. They're also well aware that Logic users love their 3rd party Audio Units, and I can't think of any other DAW whose dot releases can touch what the Logic developers accomplish in a release cycle.

I also can't see Apple being unaware of the popularity of Ableton Live, Native Instruments, Pro Tools, etc... (The Mac page currently features an Ableton Live artist, (Grimes), as one of the three people Apple’s spotlighting to sell the mac brand... I don’t think that's an arbitrary choice…)


And, that's only the audio side… Other than Final Cut, Apple doesn't have anything else that competes with Adobe's creative products. There's no native Apple graphics editor that comes within a mile of what Photoshop can do, no design suite, no motion graphics application resembling After Effects… Again, I just don’t see Apple being unaware about the impact it would have on the mac brand if the third party developers who dominate the mac’s creative ecosystem were left behind due to an inability to adapt to ARM.


The only rational thing I’ve read is that ARM will be a coprocessor like the T2… One that runs most of the background garbage that currently runs on the CPU, background garbage that takes a toll on CPU hungry programs like those mentioned above...

Imagine if all of the syncing, notification-pushing, background tasking, app store/app store apps, itunes, etc ran on a discreet processor... If anything that should be a substantial performance boost for audio-visual work.

As far as their repair policy? Not a fan, and completely onboard with R2R. Apple past the Trillion dollar mark, the revenue lost to 3rd party repair shops is table scraps, and considering they don't service out of warranty/AC products there's literally no competition, let alone no rationale.

That said, I do think they realize customers aren't capable of replacing their devices every few years, and that's been one of the major things driving up prices... Some of the features they've opened up recently on the cMP suggest they're not actually trying to kill them off ASAP. I never thought I'd say it, but it actually seems kind of like Apple might just be brand-smart enough to realize that the worst thing accomplished by a bunch of silver mac Pros still being used to create media is having a reputation for making a really durable machine that and still hangs in there with current machines almost a decade later.

Now if they'd just stop soldering **** to the logic board... (Aint gonna happen, I know...)

 

[Yebubbleman]

I know, you can scream and cry impotently while the rest of us enjoy working with the amazing devices Apple buils.

yawn.

Right, because in 2018 when just about every MacBook Pro (and iPhone, for that matter) in support has an open quality repair program while the other Mac lines aren't being maintained. Please, tell me more about how amazing Apple devices are!

 

[macnicol]

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Indeed it is a beast and indeed it will for an Audio professional - sans Fusion Drive (I always loathed that concept: mixing a HDD with an SSD).
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I know - much to many owners disdain. There is also the 2014 Mac Mini which has probably THE largest thread on this forum and of which I’m a member of

Yeah the Mac Pro slipped my mind to be honest. Yet the performance is significantly less than the MacBook Pro in “spec test” but it’s more than capable.

Are you willing to sell your late 2009 27in iMac?

 

[DeepIn2U]

Are you willing to sell your late 2009 27in iMac?

I never owned an iMac what you talking bout Willis?

 

[CooperBox]

The software lock incorporated that disallows any independent repair on new Macs is nothing short of disgraceful. A once great company that imho has now effectively fallen from grace from their high pinnacle with this anti-consumerist behaviour.

Assuming the latest MBPros were as repairable as the last really great model (late 2013 MBPro9,1) I would seriously consider buying one this year. However, due to their now over-the-top disgraceful policies, Apple won't be getting more of my money in future.