I think the “Pro” moniker should be for actual Pro machines only.
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iFixit Shares 2019 Mac Pro Teardown: 'A Masterclass in Repairability'
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I think the “Pro” moniker should be for actual Pro machines only.
Kind of goes against how "Green" Apple wants the world to think it is. But in the end, Apple's more interested in making profits than making their best selling products repairable.
The market this is aimed at don’t “upgrade” machines. They buy them fully configured and replace them with a newer model when the old one no longer suits their needs. Compared to other pro machines in that market, the Mac Pro is a bargain..... the prices are insanely higher than the MP.
So you would like to order replacement wheels from Home Depot? Dude, get a Dell.
Apple is a corporation whose main goal is to make profits for their shareholders (i.e. profits should be their main goal).
That being said, I think Apple is one of the better corporations in going Green.
So the machine gets a 9/10 from its fiercest critic, calling it a masterclass in repairability, and YOU decide to harp on this? Really?
You are unable to swap the SSD in any of the recent Macs that have the T2 chip.
iFixIt is all about repairability, anything else, including security, is extra.
With a plethora of PCI slots, I don't think it will be particularly hard to add additional storage not tied to the T2 chip. I think this is an excellent solution that provides the best of security as well as expansion.
EDIT: In fact, there is already an expansion bay solution on Apple's website, that doesn't even use the PCI slots. Promise Pegasus J2i 8TB Internal Storage Enclosure
Ok here's your brick of an iPhone that weighs 10 lbs and is 8"x6"x4"
Yes.
If I had a problem with my boot drive, I had cloned drives all ready to go. Just shut down, open, remove the boot drive and slide in the clone. OR - just reboot into the clone. That was my 2008 Mac Pro with 4 drive bays.
Presumably if you want to add your own SSD as a boot drive you can though...? If I was getting one of these I’d probably keep a basic, clean install on the default SSD, then add my own boot drive and storage. I’m sure others will have different approaches too - that is the beauty of this kind of system.
That would be called a Lenovo Thinkpad P73. Windows 10 ain't that bad and you can get a Xeon chip with 32Gb Ram, 1Tb SSD for less than $3k. I just purchased one.
I hope you are ok??? did you survive the seizure?? 🙃
Here it comes.. Mac mini replacement with a PCIe slot.. sell it empty with default Intel graphics and give me the option of upgrading the video card and memory in the future.. I shouldn’t have to spend $6,000 to upgrade my graphics card. Also bury the hatchet with nvidia because limiting graphics cards to AMD is very anti-competitive. If Microsoft did that with Windows it would be with the DOJ the next day.
EDIT: I added Mac mini replacement because my original wording caused some confusion.
EDIT: I added Mac mini replacement because my original wording caused some confusion.
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Yeah, kind of, but moreso just a reasonably priced, upgradeable machine, with more than just a QC i5 CPU.
You can upgrade the GPU of any modern Mac.
Windows was determined to be a monopoly, MacOS is nowhere close. For better, or like in this case, worse.
I think it does have a SATA port, and adding new storage ports via PCI should be very easy.
There is a reason you can't swap out the SSD in any Mac with a T2 chip. Apple redesigned and intergrated the SSD controller into the T2 chip - so the SSD's Apple uses are without the embedded SSD Controller. That said, I hope that SOMEONE eventually comes out with a lower cost Apple compatible SSD; but there is a reason why you can't swap the SSD's out, and that reason is security.
Wow, 2019 seems like the year Apple listened to customers. I wonder if it's the beginning of a new trend, or just an exception.
Yep! Exactly this! This T2 security chip is already proving to have some real downsides, including the audio glitches people are having because all the sound has to be encrypted/decrypted via the T2 and the general concern it will create much more e-waste, due to people who don't remember to disable their locks on the machines before getting rid of them -- rendering them impossible to clean up and re-use elsewhere.
The fact it limits the ability to use "off the shelf" replacement SSDs is yet another problem when it comes to a desktop workstation machine like the Mac Pro.
Really, Apple's hardware security chips seem to me like they were spawned from the phones, where they make a lot more sense. Phones are constantly lost or stolen, don't really get opened up and upgraded with any replacement or additional components, and don't have THAT much resale value after they've been around a few years. So the people who leave them activation locked and render them scrap when they discard them aren't a really big problem vs the advantages of adding that much security for the users.
On a Mac, I think all of this is overkill. My data is pretty well protected already if I encrypted the drive with FileVault -- without the need for a T2 chip on-board. This feels like a tool for Apple to artificially create more "lock in" to their repair parts, more than something users were clamoring for.
The fact it limits the ability to use "off the shelf" replacement SSDs is yet another problem when it comes to a desktop workstation machine like the Mac Pro.
Really, Apple's hardware security chips seem to me like they were spawned from the phones, where they make a lot more sense. Phones are constantly lost or stolen, don't really get opened up and upgraded with any replacement or additional components, and don't have THAT much resale value after they've been around a few years. So the people who leave them activation locked and render them scrap when they discard them aren't a really big problem vs the advantages of adding that much security for the users.
On a Mac, I think all of this is overkill. My data is pretty well protected already if I encrypted the drive with FileVault -- without the need for a T2 chip on-board. This feels like a tool for Apple to artificially create more "lock in" to their repair parts, more than something users were clamoring for.