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iFixit Shares Full 16-Inch MacBook Pro Teardown
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You accuse me if putting words in your mouth and then in the very next breath have the nerve to say: “you said regardless of what Apple "craps out" *some* people will buy it”.
1) Some people like Macs and are willing to pay for them. Deal with it. Call them fools if you want, but as I said it’s not productive, nor does it further your argument. For some, the MBP 16” is exactly what they want.
2) Apple didn’t make the machine you wanted so you bought something else. Awesome! Enjoy your machine! Life’s too short to pay good money for something that’s not going to make you happy. You did what’s right for you. Other people will choose different.
3) What does it matter to you what other people choose to spend their money on? Can’t you just be happy with your own purchase? There’s no need to try to build yourself up by tearing others down.
One has an OLED the Apple one does not, Apple even sells OLED as being superior compared to LCD according to its iPhone X debute.
One has an nVidia the other an ATI, this is preference but most would gladly opt for the nVidia GPU.
Now the question being is the RAM and SSD soldiered on that Dell. Plus overpriced upgrade tiers for RAM and SSD.
So you think OLED costs the same as LED? And you're forgetting that you can configure minimum Dell then upgrade with aftermaket parts, can you do same with Apple???
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Here's your answer:
You said "...Apple offers and overcharges." And now you want to nitpick that one has NVIDIA and the other has AMD. The RAM and SSD being soldered have absolutely NOTHING to do with what a company charges, spec for spec.
1) Apple does not agree to the factory selling overproduction on the grey market. That’s exactly why they check to see if the battery is authorized or not. None of the grey market product sold out the back door is authorized by Apple, and will thus throw a code when put into a customers iPhone.
Sure it is productive, have you ever heard "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools."?
If people never voice what they want, when would they ever stand a chance of getting it? Your approach is rather naive!
Where did I say that?
To move down to a 4K Non-OLED screen on the Dell, its a WAIT FOR IT.....$72.10 LESS.
So without the 4K OLED panel, the total on the Dell is still more than Apple. $4,314.56
It is not even a spec for spec as mentioned one has an OLED the other does not. I believe the Dell permits users replaceable RAM and SSD the Apple one does not.
Are you being deliberately obtuse? Apple charge, for example ~GBP500 uplift on 64GB that I can get that much cheaper aftermarket! Ditto SSD, and given that they offer upto 8TB, I suspect their "SSD" is QLC chips...
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Absolutely, but anyone can buy it, eat it, and it costs on par with Big Mac, what's your point? Monopoly is not bad, abuse of monopolistic position if frowned upon, legally, however!
I even mentioned if I purchased two iPhones same model and one breaks and I store that battery for when my other one has a degraded battery for me to replace, how is this not a genuine part, why is Apple restricting iOS to recognize they own part.
I'm not being obtuse, just calling out a lousy argument when I see it. Every computer manufacturer overcharges for upgrades. This is a known fact if you are in the prosumer/enthusiast categories. Just because something is less in the aftermarket, doesn't take away from what a manufacturer is charging a customer to have them install said component(s).
Also, their SSD is their SSD now. The T2 is the SSD controller and is not using anything from any controller provider out there. And on their higher end SSDs, they are MORE THAN LIKELY using Samsung based NAND.
I use to work for them and I'm still very connected to the Fruit Stand.
That's still with a 4K display, Apple's is what, again?.. 3072x1920 🤣
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Yet you fail to notice that I can't CHOOSE to upgrade with Apple, yet I can with virtually other "PRO" laptop!
I did (ThinkPad), and I have to say I am glad.
1. Best laptop keyboard in the industry
2. Trackpoint
3. USB-A and USB-C ports so no dongles
4. Thunderbolt 3
5. 500 nit display (same as Apple).
6. Surprisingly solid Windows 10, with Linux as another great option.
1) You can choose to think name calling is productive, but I disagree. A simple difference of opinion ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2) I never said you shouldn’t voice your opinion. I said Apple didn’t make what you want so you bought something else. Good for you!
3) Contrasting the fools who buy whatever Apple “craps out” with your apparently wise choice of a P73 is what I refer to when I said you’re trying “to build yourself up by tearing others down”. Feel free to disagree but that’s my take.
My Z key is sticking... going to have to trash this entire laptop and replace it with a new one. So you know, we are environmentally friendly... thx Apple. Take my money.
So a monopoly on parts, either but from Apple at their set prices or do not have iOS recognize the part.
That is like purchasing a car and being forced to purchase tyres and oil changes from the dealership because you do not have a code to reset the warning indicator. Yes, because that dealership produces special oil and tyres that are manufactured in the same factories however relabelled with the companies logo. Get real, what next Apple provides you complimentary tea, coffee or drink of choice with a treat while you wait for the repair to get done.
Actually, you can choose to upgrade with Apple. It's just at the time of purchase.
I understand what you are wanting before and after the purchase. The ability to upgrade in the future. I get it. Just don't come on an Apple forum to bash what Apple does and how they want to control the user experience, from hardware through software and services.
And I configured the Precision to resemble the MacBook Pro as closely as possible to prove that Apple doesn't really "overcharge" nearly as bad as people make it out to be. They just don't. When it comes to prosumer/professional level notebooks, everyone is pretty close in pricing, spec for spec.
Oh it’s a genuine part. But so is the battery stripped from a stolen phone that’s parted out because it’s iCloud locked.
No security measure is perfect, talk to Apple and maybe they can help you clear that error codes
I suppose you're of the "everyone's a winner, participation medals for everyone!" mentality. Good for you!
If that's not what you meant, why bother mentioning it in the first place, information value = 0!
I never juxtaposed the two, so don't put words in my mouth, that comment was made to a specific comment you made, verbatim: "Those who like this MBP 16” despite iFixit’s repair rating of “1” will buy it." You said "like" not "need," and boy, are there many people with more money than sense when it comes to Apple gear!
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Yup, you are being obtuse.
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