I guess you prefer to blow off steam at your family, or did you not read what I wrote?.. 🤣 Incidentally, extrapolating your logic, nobody here is a Pro 🤔 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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I guess you prefer to blow off steam at your family, or did you not read what I wrote?.. 🤣 Incidentally, extrapolating your logic, nobody here is a Pro 🤔 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
I think that all SSD chips are not made the same, the all do not have the same speed and reliability and number write times. Apple does not use cheap parts because they want the computer to last without have to replace stuff. Yes Apple might make a little profit on the SSD but they don’t use do not use joe blows SSD chips. Not all chips are made the same way with the same engineering quality and testing. Same with memory chips.
Yes. Which is why I wrote “Apple gives away the OS and years of free updates as long as you buy Apple hardware. The software is built into the price of the Mac”.
Mac has somewhere around 10% of the market. I don’t think “monopoly” means what you think it means. In any case, Apple is under no obligation to license their OS in whichever way you may prefer.
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yet, you still fail to read what I wrote...
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You *think*??? Why, because manufacturers would rather use "worse" parts and have to replace them under warranty, given that most manufacturer's warranties are longer than Apple's default (non paid-for) warranty?.. For example, Crucial has lifetime, while Samsung gives you 5 years... 🤔 🤣
And what what happens when you damage the computer logic board during the installation does Lenovo give you a whole new logic board or computer? I bet you are out of luck.
FYI it is limited lifetime warranty not lifetime warranty and people have hadd problems Samsung 5 year warranty trying to get them to cover the replacement.
You can call people who buy Macs fools, but where does that get you? Name calling is non-productive and doesn’t help your argument in the least.
I’m sure you’ll enjoy your P73. As I often say, if you don’t need or want MacOS, you can save money buying a PC instead. Some 90% of computer users do exactly that. Lots of options out there. Different strokes for different folks
But I don’t think I’ll ever understand why any of those 90% care one tiny little bit what the other 10% prefer to do with our money ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Monopoly on hardware post-purchase upgradability, repairability, pricing relating to components offered on hardware that is legally only permitted to run on Apple produced and sold hardware. That is a monopoly relating to a product cycle. In comparison other manufacturers use industrial standard COTS parts that can be upgraded or repaired without going through that specific company and you do not have to purchase a warranty from those companies either as they will sell you genuine parts.
I believe you are thinking that official macOS users have a 10% marketshare, I am not sure if this is accurate as Windows and Linux runs on servers, POS, etc. I remember the consumer marketshare being around 3-6% for macOS and I wonder why that is because one the OS is not licenses and only included with the purchase of Apple hardware and two the cost of that hardware is absurd expensive for what one is getting in comparison to other manufacturers.
It is possible to run macOS on non-Apple sold or supported hardware for educational purposes but nothing more as it it becomes a legal issue. Years of free updates is questionable as some Apple hardware is considered obsolete or vintage due to parts availability however is artificially bared from running the latest macOS, even third-party hacks have proven the official unsupported hardware can be run, it is Apple who limits support as to persuade those users to purchase new hardware. Windows and Linux for example can run on hardware for 5+ years. The usually limitations of not having more than 4GB of RAM to run a 64bit OS and apps or more than 128GB of SSD has been long passed as most users usually use they laptops for office environment work, the few that do require more computing power care more about the software used vice macOS additional features. As mentioned desktop OSes have matured a long time ago, hence the focus is on mobile OSes and the incorporation of its benefits on a desktop model.
I have had iMac's, iBooks, MacBooks, MBPs and MBAs, I have never run into a situation where I could not complete any photo editing, processing work or video/music editing work. Granted I am not editing more than two 4K streams at the same time on my MBA, but it is still capable.
Most users over purchase a product rather purchase what they need.
Where did I say that? You're putting words into my mouth: you said regardless of what Apple "craps out" *some* people will buy it, and yes, those people *are* fools!
You clearly missed the important part of what I was saying: I was waiting to buy a mac given that with Mac Pro Apple addmitted (and expressly so!) that they realised that pros want modular design, so I was waiting for them to go modular for MBP16, given that there is plenty of space to do so, yet they stuck with their expensive but shiny brick concept...
No, Apple does not overproduce to lower prices, and does not want ANY of their genuine product landing in local stores, where it undercuts their own price.Not stolen more like overproduction stock. Manufacturers overproduce to lower costs, Apple gets its genuine part as well as excess is produced from the same line that lands in local stores. Same company producing them to the same spec with the same logo etc. The testing is all done in the same factory before it gets shipped around the globe or stays local. There is no difference, if you want unbranded or cheaper parts that is also available in China. I did not know it costs more than double for Apple to bless a part as it being authentic. Seriously
The owner of the factory is stealing from Apple, plain and simple, piggybacking off Apple’s high volume production to get inexpensive parts to sell for their own benefit—profiting at Apple’s expense. Whether Apple is charging twice or ten times as much as you think they should has zero relevance.
In the US (and many other countries, I’d guess) this is a felony crime and those perpetrating such a scheme would spend many years in prison if they are caught.
The only thing that really works loose are poorly designed EDP cables. I have yet to see a screw work its way loose inside a computer chassis.
Nah. They recycle (better, reuse) parts like everyone else. Apple makes their money on unit sales—direct profit from the sale and indirect profit from stock speculation.
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You can call people who buy Macs fools, but where does that get you? Name calling is non-productive and doesn’t help your argument in the least.
I’m sure you’ll enjoy your P73. As I often say, if you don’t need or want MacOS, you can save money buying a PC instead. Some 90% of computer users do exactly that. Lots of options out there. Different strokes for different folks
But I don’t think I’ll ever understand why any of those 90% care one tiny little bit what the other 10% prefer to do with our money ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Who said I was not willing to pay for macOS to be run on hardware other than what Apple offers and overcharges. I like macOS, I have been using it since it was OS X and used OS 9 and prior. I have used Windows and Linux, but prefer macOS, why am I being limited to what hardware Apple artificially limits it to. Seeing through those rose tinted glasses will only make Apple offer better updated hardware more frequent and cheaper with reasonable upgrade options, unless you believe Apple should be permitted to do what it wants. Remember FreeBSD is open source supported and that is what macOS is built upon for years. Apple did not build and secure macOS without community support, so lets gain some insight yeah.
I've still got a Dell E6430 that's been upgraded to 8GB RAM and 2.5" SSD. It's got a triple boot configuration of Kali, Fedora, and Windows 10. Upgraded from Windows 7. This is a notebook which can be serviced and I don't expect to compare it to a MBP because of the design. But, it's STILL quite useful which you could find similar notebooks such as this with other sysadmins or coders. I use it for a lot of remote work or if I have to carry to different servers, APs, etc. because it has every port you could use with the included express card interface. It was released in '12 and the only "maintenance" was replacing the battery, reapplied thermal paste, and cleaning dust accumulation. There are many capable Apple computers which could still be supported by 10.15 but were cutoff for being discontinued. It wasn't because of only software reasons. So, expecting that everyone should replace there electronics to have a similar lifespan as every other product, like phones, is idiotic. I'm sure that Apple would love it if every product you owned by them were on an annual cycle. They certainly don't want the user repairing/replacing any component or other third parties that they don't authorize and make money off of either.
And my MBP17" failed again after Apple had the GPU "repaired" two months after... I've never had problems replacing failed parts, even with Intel!
Because they took away something that we found very valuable, and it still hurts.
Apple does indeed provide years of OS support for every Mac they sell, at least five years but often much longer. And whether Apple has 1, 3, 5, 10 or 20% of the market isn’t particularly relevant. The point still remains that Apple doesn’t have a monopoly. There’s no such thing as “monopoly relating to a product cycle” and Apple is under no obligation to use any COTS parts unless they so choose.
Example: Apple approaches a manufacturer in China that produces batteries for many companies. Apple asks can you produce X amount of batteries with this tech that you have experience with for X lower dollars compared to market costs. Manufacturers thinks about it says it can produce X amount of batteries for Apple however in order to reach that price point it has to overproduce due to QC issues. Apple agrees to the overproduction. Manufacturers overproduces battery with Apples knowledge, those that do not meet QC get recycled and the over production is sold on the grey market. Both Apple and the Manufacturers wins. Apple gets to overcharge for those parts and the Manufacturer gets to sell the same genuine part it produced for Apple, they are just not allow to sell it to Apple Stores directly or its Authorized Repair shops.
How is this stealing from Apple, you think Apple does not know about it practise to get the price they want and hold customers to higher prices for things that effectively costs a fraction of the price it charges, to me that is illegal to hold the customer hostage in this situation by lying to them.
I think you need to look up what monopoly actually means, hint: it relates to a commercial market in a specific area. Given that you already argued over and over that MacOS is different to everything else in the market, guess what! 🤣
Dell Precision 5540 Mobile Workstation - $4,372.66
15.6" OLED, i9-9980HK, 64GB DDR4, Quadra T2000 w/ 4GB GDDR5, 2TB PCIe Class 40, 6-cell 97Whr
Apple MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2019) - $4299.00
16" LCD, i9-9980HK, 64GB DDR4, Radeon Pro 5500M w/ 8GB GDDR6, 2TB Apple PCIe SSD, 6-cell 99.8Whr
Tell me again how Apple "overcharges". And mind you, the MacBook Pro is a full aluminum chassis v. the aluminum covering of the Precision Mobile Workstation.
EDIT: The Precision Mobile Workstation Datasheet says it is "a 100% aluminum workstation". I haven't seen a teardown to verify this nor do I have one in front of me.
Because M.2 is just as fast as Apple’s proprietary solution
Because M.2 is a standard
Because M.2 is easy to repair / replace—and they do not come loose.
You would understand if you saw the working conditions in certain places where your Apple products are fixed.