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iFixit Shares Full iPhone 12 and 12 Pro Teardown Revealing Interchangeable Displays and Batteries
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On the contrary. Akin to the "upsize" strategy done by fastfood chains, the smaller gap actually can entice customers to just get the Pro.
For SIM free versions, 128GB iPhone 12 is $879 and the 128GB iPhone 12 Pro is $999. Looking at the monthly installment from Apple.com, that translates to just an extra $5 a month for the Pro, and for some people that's probably not a big deal and might as well get the Pro and get the extras.
I'm guessing this is Apple's strategy to upsell, and thus increasing their ASP. Apple saw in the previous years that their XR and 11 models are selling more. I can see this move in closing the gap as a way to nudge some people into spending $999 instead.
Well that’s an ignorant comment if I ever read one before. There a reason for the animosity?
... because the improved waterproofing makes it more difficult to remove the screen, like I said?
I honestly think the phones are really similar on accident. I think the 12 Pro models were originally supposed to have 120Hz OLED screens, while the base 12 had 60Hz OLED screens, and something fell through in the production due to COVID-19 or in the supply chain. 120Hz seems like the perfect distinguishing major feature between Pro/Standard iPhones.
At the same year they get rid of the charger and headphones. Exciting year to be an apple shareholder but not so much a customer.
I don’t think it was ever Apple’s intention to have both 5g and 120hz displays in a smartphone at the same time.
Rather, it seems more that Apple has deemed the ability to edit raw photos format while still benefiting from Apple’s computational photography as being a “pro” feature that only a small percentage of the iPhone installed base will find value in or use.
As such, there is logic in Apple’s decision to tie said functionality to the best camera systems found with the Pro models. Most people will be fine using the base iPhone 12 model and continue to take great photos using the stock camera app and sharing them with friends and family.
I think it’s safe to say that Apple is doubling on better cameras being a “pro” feature to differentiate the iPhone lineup.
what? i just said the amount of times you need to repair something has no effect on the difficulty of actually repairing the device. you're not making any sense here.
if it was easy to replace a button on the phone, having to do it a hundred times because it broke easily vs doing it only once has no effect on the difficulty of replacing the button on the phone. it would still be easy.
Is computational photography really only limited to the 12 Pro? Is it not available for the 11 Pro?
Based on my understanding, it’s a feature that will be made available for the 12 pro models.
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The X chips usually have better GPU performance. The A12X/Z still performs better in some GPU tasks than the plain A14. Also, the X chip is designed for larger form factors in mind.
All good points.
Or, to make it even simpler, cite the law of large numbers: When roughly 1.7 billion devices have shipped over a period of ten years using a particular screw design, and around ⅓ of the population of the United States uses a device with those screws on a daily basis as their primary communication tool, it doesn’t matter if that’s the only thing they’re used on--it’s not uncommon anymore. You literally can’t even walk down the street without seeing someone using something with a Pentalobe screw on the outside of it.
I would wager that at least a quarter of the devices using sub-1mm screws in the United States have pentalobe screws. It’s not like I can go into a hardware store and buy a 0.8mm Torx screw, either--they don’t sell anything below T1. Heck, even Huawei is putting pentalobes on some devices now.
If you can buy the screwdrivers, can buy the screws, and a third of the nation owns at least a couple of them, it’s not really proprietary anymore, and is probably not much less common than other formats of microscopic screw.
Computational photography is available on all the iPhone 12 models. Not coming to the iPhone 11.
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Actually as per I fixit the screens are exactly the same. Interchangeable. Apple limits the nits via software limiting. The screens are the same. Exactly the same to be exact. The screen is brighter in only some conditions. That's it.
More ram. Yes that is a benefit.Telephoto lens. Yup. Stainless steel. No. I had the pro models for the last three years. I waited for a OLED aluminum iphone. Apple is really good at marketing. Very good. SS inferior to 7075 aluminum. 7075 aluminum cost twice as much. It is a more expensive metal, while SS is relatively cheap by comparison. Scratch resistance is relatively the same. How many reviewers say " more premium metal" 👍😂. When in reality it's cheaper and less premium.
7075 Aluminum vs. AISI 304 Stainless Steel :: MakeItFrom.com
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High tensile aluminum allows the phone to run cooler as 7075 aluminum has over twice the heat conductivity as SS. Possible better performance. This is more important to me than the possible benefit of more ram.
The pro models are much heavier. Feels like a paper weight in your pocket. Also the cost difference is $150 without applecare. $200 with as Apple care costs $50 more for the pro models. So that's $200, not $150.
So for $200 more you are getting a telephoto lens, same camera, same screen, cheaper steel, a phone that runs hotter, and weighs more, 2gb more ram.
Different perspective isn't it? To each their own, but the 12 pro is the worst deal in the line up. In my opinion.
Bad take. You realize that they sell replacement adhesive, right? They make money on the waterproofing.
They weren’t really bemoaning the water proofing if you read their article, that’s just macrumors editorializing. They noted that the water proofing makes some things harder to repair but also acknowledged that it makes repairs less likely to be needed in the first place. They actually praised that Apple made some components easily replaceable and that they used screws and foam to hold things down where they would have used glue in the past.
Did you watch the stream? I'll paste an earlier response:
If you watched the livestream video linked in the article, they mentioned about the new heating gun is now being supplied to Apple techs due to the increased water proofing and how it streamlines the process for Apple. They suggested that it was Apple's way of making intentionally harder on consumers (essentially ifixit's userbase) so that getting service through Apple makes more sense than doing it yourself because Apple won't sell the heat gun. And then she immediately segways into the topic of "right to repair" and how she's "sorry, actually no i'm not sorry at all" for the repair biased opinions.
That, to me, sounds like bemoaning on ifixit's part. This Macrumor's interpretation of why they said it is legitimate.
Super anecdotal, but I cracked the lens on the rear camera on my iPhone X. Apple charged like $550 or something in that ballpark for the fix, so I went to some random shop around me who said they’d do it for $60. So... they replaced it, but they scratched the metal a little bit, and accidentally cut part of the camera. So I took it back and he replaced the camera, but had to remove the display and go through the front of the phone... he didn’t seal the display down as well as it was originally, so if you pressed on the right side of the display, it had some give and you could see the screen depress and hear a bit of a squeezing sound. I figured the poorly sealed display wasn’t that big of a deal, but he didn’t have a filter grill piece to cover the microphone and said it was broken when the lens broke, so it got super dusty and the pictures turned out really poorly. I took it back again and he ordered a lens cover with the microphone filter. So I came back a few days later to get the dust cleaned out and a new lens and filter installed, but a week or so later the lens was all dusty again. I ended up selling the phone for a discount to a buyer (and disclosed the screen issue and dust in the camera, which is why I sold it cheap).
I ended up getting the iPhone 11 which I wanted to try anyways due to PWM, which was a great decision. Cheaper than getting the iPhone X fixed through Apple, and much faster and better pictures.
I still don’t regret not getting AppleCare though. I’ve saved tons of money over the years by not getting AppleCare, so even if I paid Apple to get it fixed, I still would be ahead in the long run. The way I see it, insurance is offered because it is profitable to the company. Apple makes more money from people who pay into the insurance than they lose by paying to fix or replace stuff. Anything I can afford (phone, TV, computer, coffee maker, vacuum, etc), I think it’s a waste to buy insurance for as it costs the average consumer more money. In addition to being cheaper in the long run, I ended up upgrading my phone which I wouldn’t have done right then if insurance fixed the screen.
No, iPhone has never used AX processor. It also doesn’t make sense to use A13 when cheaper iPhone SE uses it released 5 months ago.
Actually as per I fixit the screens are exactly the same. Interchangeable. Apple limits the nits via software limiting. The screens are the same. Exactly the same to be exact. The screen is brighter in only some conditions. That's it.
More ram. Yes that is a benefit.Telephoto lens. Yup. Stainless steel. No. I had the pro models for the last three years. I waited for a OLED aluminum iphone. Apple is really good at marketing. Very good. SS inferior to 7075 aluminum. 7075 aluminum cost twice as much. It is a more expensive metal, while SS is relatively cheap by comparison. Scratch resistance is relatively the same. How many reviewers say " more premium metal" 👍😂. When in reality it's cheaper and less premium.
7075 Aluminum vs. AISI 304 Stainless Steel :: MakeItFrom.com
High tensile aluminum allows the phone to run cooler as 7075 aluminum has over twice the heat conductivity as SS. Possible better performance. This is more important to me than the possible benefit of more ram.
The pro models are much heavier. Feels like a paper weight in your pocket. Also the cost difference is $150 without applecare. $200 with as Apple care costs $50 more for the pro models. So that's $200, not $150.
So for $200 more you are getting a telephoto lens, same camera, same screen, cheaper steel, a phone that runs hotter, and weighs more, 2gb more ram.
Different perspective isn't it? To each their own, but the 12 pro is the worst deal in the line up. In my opinion.
much more unbalanced view
Valid point with saving money by not getting AC+ over the years. As to your repair history, I would not have gone that route for the exact reason your history shows. I can see going the first time if there is not an Apple store near and one is in a ‘tight’ spot but, to keep going to the same person who continues to make things worse with each visit, only illustrates the point of making sure you go to Apple or a place you know is Apple approved and has a positive history.
I am glad it all worked out for your in the end with the new phone. That is the one bright spot.
Not from my perspective it isn't. As I said to each their own. I just see the short comings from my point of view seeing I have owned almost every pro model including the X since 2017. The short comings I talked about I have personally experienced myself. The phones run hotter, are heavier, provide little for money compared to what is important to me.
You may disagree, but what I said was factual.