[doublepost=1531535892][/doublepost]I bought the new MacBook Pro 13” today and such a difference. I had both 2016 and 2017 models and this updated model is great. I sure wish this would have been the one from the beginning. The sound of the speakers is amazing and the keyboard is great!
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iFixit Teardown Suggests 2018 MacBook Pro Keys Feature a Silicone Barrier to Prevent Malfunctions Due to Dust
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This is being overlooked by a lot of people evidently. I still use an original Retina MacBook Pro (Mid 2012) and won't feel compelled to upgrade until Apple bumps up the resolution to 3360x2100.
Your point about the dongles is valid, but I've long stopped hoping for Apple to bring back USB-A ports or MagSafe or an SD card slot, and decided to just hope for a lower base price instead.
USB-C will eventually replace USB-A, but it's happening very slowly as I expected. USB-A is still found in many places that USB-C isn't, like the 2013 Mac Pro and 2014 Mac mini Apple is still selling as current models, as well as the 2015 MacBook Pro literally discontinued just yesterday.
No. Because what would people complain about? The MacRumors forum would be silenced forever.
And you won’t be disappointed.. I bought the 13” and love it and the speaker sound is SO much better!
For me the True Tone and the sound of the speakers is amazing. A lot more bass!! Keyboard is great
I've got to take my 2016 in. Drives me bonkers.
The 2018 has me very tempted...
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They upgraded the speakers on the new one?
The 2018 has me very tempted...
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They upgraded the speakers on the new one?
Still I wonder if the silicone will hold up as well as the keyboard on my regularly used nearly 10 year old MacBook.
Yes on the Apple site they have changed up the speaker system and sure hear more bass. Deeper sound and yet to me it surrounds the MacBook Pro.
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“MacBook Pro has beautifully balanced, high‑fidelity sound that takes listening to new levels with wide dynamic range and more bass for maximum boom. And the speakers are connected directly to system power, enabling greater peak amplification. So you can mix a track on the fly, edit video on location, or enjoy a movie on the go.” (from the Apple site )
Apple is in the middle of several class-action lawsuits for the failure of their keyboards, so of course they can't just come out and say, "Hey, we fixed it!" That says there was a problem to begin with.
That makes sense from a PR standpoint, but legally it's incorrect, just FYI. See Federal Rule of Evidence 407:
SUBSEQUENT REMEDIAL MEASURES. When measures are taken that would have made an earlier injury or harm less likely to occur, evidence of the subsequent measures is not admissible to prove:
- negligence;
- culpable conduct;
- a defect in a product or its design; or
- a need for a warning or instruction.
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If this actually is a fix rather than just sound dampening and with as much cash as Apple has, it seems like offering repairs with this (possible) improvement to older MBP and current MB models would be prudent. If they're already replacing the entire top case I can't imagine the cost being that much different. It might be logistically difficult. But sometimes taking a one-time hit is better in the long run, even for the shareholders. I mean at this point, I still don't know whether I could advise someone to buy a Mac laptop because Apple hasn't really telegraphed clear info like they did with the iPhone 4 antenna situation. They gave exact percentages of the increase in dropped calls, along with a specific solution. Here everyone is reading the tea leaves. Even John Gruber, who is Apple's steadiest ally, thinks Apple may be lying over the nature of the gen 3 keyboard because of the class-action lawsuits. That's like Ronald McDonald shrugging if you ask him if the burgers have e coli.
Apple has, what...7% market share, leaving a boat-load of Windows notebooks and desktops, most still equipped with USB-A ports, and until that large market share moves to USB-C, the market for USB-A will be high and USB-C will continue to grow very slowly. People just don't want a device that lacks full compatibility with everything.
A new pair of Beats headphones with your favorites tunes going should make you forget about any keyboard noise whatsoever.
It’s pretty hilarious to me what qualifies as “terrible” around here.
What are you adjusting in the middle of every sentence you type? Screen brightness? Volume? An application shortcut you could otherwise still do via your trackpad (though that would still mean touching another type of surface).
I’m pretty sure Apple putting in place an extended repair program acknowledges that there was a reliability problem.
On the very first page of the notice, Apple describes the nature of the keyboard problems:
- Letters or characters repeat unexpectedly
- Letters or characters do not appear
- Key(s) feel "sticky" or do not respond in a consistent manner
Can we please stop with the claims that Apple somehow doesn’t want to admit there’s a problem?
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This is great and all but rubber can dry out and crack over time, and if this happens the key and or keys would most likely flat out fail and be rendered useless given you would now have a piece or pieces of rubber floating around under the key(s). I guess only time will tell how long the rubber will hold up.
Terrible? I don’t think anyone who owns these think that at all. Time to turn in your Apple card and move along. I hear Acer has Alexa built into their notebooks now *thumbs up*
It's slower to type for me, especially for extended periods because it cramps your hand. There are lots of threads about this very issue. I prefer typing on my $300 chromebook because they keys are ergonomic with more travel and are a joy to use. Throw in the issue of dust specs rendering the keyboard inoperable, and the hassle of having to go to an Apple store to get it fixed for days, and you have the recipe for one crummy design. You're in the minority with your opinions for sure.
ikr? Like Apple tried to Jedi mind trick everyone, but got busted by iFixit, who were smart enough to see through Apple’s attempted cover-up.
iFixit to the rescue, you’re our hero