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iFixit Tears Down 13-Inch M2 MacBook Pro
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For every YouTuber that says it is throttling, there is another that shows that it is not under sustained load. For every YouTuber that shows a benchmark that the SSD is slower, there is another that does real world copying of files to show it is almost twice as fast. I would not discount the M2 MacBook pro yet. Too much disinformation out there.
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It seems like everyone is tearing down this MBP.
It is the heard mentality on here. One person or source posts something potentially "bad" about an apple product and EVERYONE assumes its true without any thought. They then regurgitate it over and over on here and other places until it seems like it is fact. And most people commenting don't even own the product they are talking about. They are desperate for another "gate".
Or did you mean...like physically tearing it down to see inside?
It's not necessarily software locking that prevents using a new logic board in an older model. It could just be slight upgrades to the interface chips in the peripherals or the overall peripheral that prevent functionality. Since these are internal parts, Apple doesn't have to guarantee a trackpad works from model to model if they want to take advantage of performance, cost or power enhancements by using a newer chip, peripheral, supplier, etc.
I don't understand the insistence that Apple make everything backwards compatible, modular, etc. I don't want a Dell.
And I've rarely seen anything from Apple fail besides older third party rotational drives, some caps during the Chinese faux capacitor scam, and a CRT in a 1998 era iMac. It would be nice to be able to add some more RAM after buying a lower cost device, which one can do on some Apple devices, but I can see why it is also soldered directly to the logic board for MFG reasons. Even the batteries that seemed to degrade and fail in older MacBooks now seem way more reliable, and those are still replaceable.
And they implemented the new tool/rental / replacement program. So if you really want to fix it, now you often can. Some will complain that Apple isn't making everything cheap and easy for them to replace on their own, but that ignores the extremely high production volumes of many Apple devices that make it much less practical for repairability. And it also ignores that Apple doesn't want to deal with a bunch of "I worked on it first" broken devices or failed repairs using cheap ripoff parts from Amazon, etc. They have standards, even for repair. That should be praised.
I don't understand the insistence that Apple make everything backwards compatible, modular, etc. I don't want a Dell.
And I've rarely seen anything from Apple fail besides older third party rotational drives, some caps during the Chinese faux capacitor scam, and a CRT in a 1998 era iMac. It would be nice to be able to add some more RAM after buying a lower cost device, which one can do on some Apple devices, but I can see why it is also soldered directly to the logic board for MFG reasons. Even the batteries that seemed to degrade and fail in older MacBooks now seem way more reliable, and those are still replaceable.
And they implemented the new tool/rental / replacement program. So if you really want to fix it, now you often can. Some will complain that Apple isn't making everything cheap and easy for them to replace on their own, but that ignores the extremely high production volumes of many Apple devices that make it much less practical for repairability. And it also ignores that Apple doesn't want to deal with a bunch of "I worked on it first" broken devices or failed repairs using cheap ripoff parts from Amazon, etc. They have standards, even for repair. That should be praised.
They had a bunch of leftover parts so they decided to use those parts and release a "new" MBP. Threw in the M2 to really hammer that point home. More and more this machine should have been scrapped. Apple raising prices for essentially another M1....
They’re both $400, but the starting point is different. With the M1 Pro you pay $400 to upgrade from 16GB to 32GB. With the M2 you pay the same amount to upgrade from 8GB to 24GB. So in both cases you pay $400 to add 16GB to the base configuration. Pay the same to get the same additional memory.
I for one, love the useless Touch Bar. Totally underrated and not used to its full potential by many. I’d say it’s one of Apples most innovative side projects they produced.
Now that iFixit has partnered with Goophabet, I really don’t trust their opinions regarding Apple.
The year is 2026. The M1 chip is no longer supported by the latest macOS update, but tens of thousands of users everywhere are able to swap in a processor upgrade to prevent the rest of the computer from turning into e-waste.
This is the hellish nightmare that Apple is protecting us from.
This is the hellish nightmare that Apple is protecting us from.
You spent so long working out whether you could, you didn’t think about whether you should
Indeed. I mean why continue to sell the world's second most-popular laptop computer model? Everyone knows iPhone is where the money is.
Makes one wonder why Apple even bothers with the Mac, considering...
Exactly what corners did they cut?
Using multiple NAND for such a tiny amount of storage is unusual and a waste of resources. I wouldn’t be surprised if their NAND manufacturer just told them “no, we don’t do 128gb modules anymore, minimum density is 256 now”.
The people buying a BASE MODEL MacBook don’t give a damn about storage speed. Apple will continue to sell these like hotcakes, while you armchair engineers scoff and rage.
If you’re buying a luxury car for Honda civic prices, you can’t expect it to be toe to toe with a Ferrari.
Probably a great space heater too. And when the manufacturer stops supporting it in a year, it will be a great paperweight.
If “physically fits” becomes the standard for mandated compatibility between objects then life is about to get weird…
There has to be some random edge case somewhere that is keeping the assembly lines operational for this old machine. Logically it should have been killed when the new 14 and 16 in were released and especially when the new MacBook Air was released.
Indeed. I mean why continue to sell the world's second most-popular laptop computer model? Everyone knows iPhone is where the money is.
Makes one wonder why Apple even bothers with the Mac, considering...
There is obviously someone that is ordering a significant enough of these old machines to make it worth while for Apple to keep re-using old parts and keeping the assembly lines running...my guess is education, governments, or some other red-tape large organizations.
In light of the new MacBook Pros and now Air...it is just a confusing machine to still be selling.
Exactly this. I hope iFixit doesn’t actually think that every component that looks the same and serves the same general purpose is interchangeable—it would raise some real doubts about their engineering abilities and the quality of their replacement parts.
Did you forget for 5 years Apple sold the Butterfly keyboards MacBook's in which you CANNOT replace the keyboard as it's riveted. That is what makes me mad and they STILL rivet the keyboard even in the 2021 models. If the a user wants to replace a broken keyboard that's not possible. Apple has to replace the WHOLE bottom case just for a keyboard replacement. This is why Apple charges $700-800USD for that. It's insane.
Apple also sold laptops in 2016-2017 with a glued in display cable that failed...
Lenovo has extremely high production volumes even higher than Apple for laptops and PCs and yet their computers are easily repairable.
oh then why is that a small company called Framework can upgrade the logic board from 11th gen Intel to 12th gen Intel using the same old case and this can be done by the customer but Apple with all their billions cannot engineer a way to it.
Upgrade Kit (12th Gen Intel® Core™)
Upgrade your Framework Laptop with this kit, which includes an i5-1240P, i7-1260P, or i7-1280P Framework Laptop Mainboard and a CNC Top Cover.
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or maybe Apple made a unrepairable device by gluing in the SSD
I was one of the first buyers of the Framework laptop. It's nice and delivers in the upgradeability/repairability space. But it's still a Windows machine and still has teething pains regarding the BIOS, drivers etc. In short, it's buggy and I sold it.
You do 'pay a price' when you have to assemble a machine with components from 50 different vendors, and expecting it to run on Windows with 50K different kinds of applications.
Framework laptop got much better. Even Apple devices like the 14" and 16" MBP had software issues when they came out.