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iFixit Tears Down 13-Inch M2 MacBook Pro
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It is interesting that the M1 can technically be swapped for the M2. Should Apple be forced to allow for this and is it wrong if they don’t? I imagine it would require Apple to create new drivers at minimum, and a crazy amount of encryption and decryption work at most. But I as a consumer would find it cool if I could swap out SOCs in a MacBook(while not paying again and taxing the earth for everything that isn’t the SOC), and it would make the machine worth more in my opinion. It would be a giant leap forward for the environmental responsibility of these products as well.
I sold my Framework 18 days ago. No doubt all machines have glitches and improve over time, but the Framework was no panacea.
I think you mean can *not be swapped. No, Apple should not be 'forced' to do anything. If you don't like their strategy, you just don't buy. Simple.
There are some who prefer the Touch Bar. Apparently more then this forum believes. Apple would not continue giving one option for those who want it if there wasn’t a market for it.
When working in Logic Pro, the Touch Bar comes alive. Silent recording start; precise punch-in with a soft tap etc. etc. the issue with the Touch Bar is that it was not an option to customize. Also, Apple has data on who uses function keys or not, including a physical escape key. Maybe not as many as you think (except maybe Windows users and programmers etc.).
The machine has its place, just not on this forum.
Mac users and Windows/Linux users use escape key a lot that's why Apple brought it back with the touch bar v2
The only thing is with the new tech and the price bump of the Air meant the M2 MBPs will also face their own price bumps.
And the better performance and the fans may also mean a shorter battery life compared to the M2 Air.
That said, as things stand, the M2 Air doesn't immediately become a must get. But once the M2 MBPs are out, the M2 Air may look appealing again.
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I just wrote it really to be a joke . . . glad someone got it.It is the heard mentality on here. One person or source posts something potentially "bad" about an apple product and EVERYONE assumes its true without any thought. They then regurgitate it over and over on here and other places until it seems like it is fact. And most people commenting don't even own the product they are talking about. They are desperate for another "gate".
Or did you mean...like physically tearing it down to see inside?
After all the recrimination I just thought it was a funny pun (I guess?). Not sure if it's a pun, but yeah the double meaning. I'm honestly not too invested in this Mac. It's not for me and I do have macOS complaints, but to buy a decent Intel laptop with a decent high DPI display, well, I honestly don't know that you're going to do as well as this and certainly not with this battery life. I am not an Apple apologist. A lot I don't like. And I would not buy this, but the battery life, processor, and high DPI display on even Apple's lesser displays are pretty good compared to the competition.
All that it is to say, it was about the pun.
We’d all rather think about the M2 Air than this odd duck MBP.
You’re right. Inventory buildup has been a problem with a lot of companies and I suspect Apple isn’t immune. iFixit surmising that Apple used 256GB modules due to shortages couldn’t be more wrong. In fact, Micron just stated that they have too much inventory! People who are downvoting you are clueless fanboys. Apple even reused the 13” MBP box for crying out loud but they refuse to see the obvious truth.
The M1 13” MBP was Apples second best selling computer. Obviously there are people out there buying them. Yes, it is looking a little old in the tooth, but if it were not for the other ones in Apple lineup this would seem like a pretty good computer. I suspect that this is bought by people who are used to using the Touch Bar and see this as a way to retain that feature a little longer. I think the other (and maybe larger group) are corporate purchasers who have a spec for a midrange laptop based on the old 13” MBP and this fits right in. It’s easy to justify continuing to by the “less expensive MBP” and issue them to their employees. They can’t buy a consumer laptop like the Air for their employees and the other MBPs are almost twice as expensive.
For the rest of us, this Mac is pointless but don’t assume that it won’t find buyers.
Couldn't agree more. Leave it to fanboys to invent something ridiculous like a NAND shortage or that 128GB chips are somehow obsolete. Everyone in the NAND and DRAM industry is drowning in inventory.
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Not by much though. With the 18% improved performance of the M2, a throttled M2 Air might still be faster than an M1 Air that wasn’t throttling.
Who is surprised that it is not more repairable than the M1 MacBook pro 13" ? It is the same machine. And it was announced this way.
For what it's worth the manufacturer of those actually has some serious backing. The designers are ex Apple staffers, and the internals are all opensourced, meaning anyone can build a logic board for them.
Oh and it runs very cool and rarely spins its fans up. It's a seriously underrated product. The first iteration had the typical issues you see with new products but the latest one is pretty rock solid.
It's not perfect by any means, but does highlight that its very much possible to have a laptop with replaceable components and not sacrifice on performance or build quality.
apple supports older machines for long long time. i used to have a 2010 mbp it was offically supported till 2018. That is 8 years. way longer than any Windows maschine will ever be supported by any company
well u might think not anyone considers the m2? For example me i consider the M2 Air to be my 2017 MBP 13" Replace ment
It was an excellent play on words.
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Just remember that often people online (not just MacRumours in particular) seem to have had a humour bypass operation. 🙂
Except only ten people actually want to do it.
Face it, if there was a market for modular laptops someone would be taking advantage of it. The vast majority of consumers prefer the durability, thinner design, etc of these types of laptops.
Well, at least Apple have a fig-leaf for doing that "because security". I guess it's feasible to produce fake top covers with keyloggers and fingerprint recorders...
Agree. I get the diehards don't like being hit with facts but if it wasn't for the inventory I doubt apple would have even released the M2 MBP. I get some people will buy it, but seems like overall the M1 MBP is still a better option (and cheaper at that).
While I respect there are some folks who like the touchbar for their workflows I understand why Apple canned it, my personal dislike of it aside.
for anyone who touch types: it's useless
for anyone who docks their laptop: it's particularly useless
The problem is twofold:
1) Looking down at the touchbar breaks rhythm from looking at the display, it breaks how keyboards are typically used, and since it has no haptic feedback there's no way to use it without looking
2) It's not usable for a lot of professionals that dock when at a desk, outside of anything else it means you have to change how you work between external keyboards and when you work with the laptop as a laptop, which means no one gets used to it. Maybe Apple could have alleviated some of this by adding an external keyboard with a touchbar to their line but, for whatever reason, be it reaction to the TB, power draw, etc, they didnt. And it still would have problem 1
So yeah, I get some folks miss it, especially video pros who shoot on location and use the touchbar to scrub through footage, but for most people it was just gimicky or even actively harmful (it really bugged the crap out of me on my work 2016 15" for ex).